Anonymous wrote:...I wouldn't babysitter swap with people who are clearly judgmental. I hope you'd have the balls to say it to my face that I "mutilated" my child if he were to be circumised so that I'd know ahead of time to not get involved in a swap with you.
i'd rather share responsibilities with people who share my parenting belief of 'live and let live'.
Anonymous wrote:
Increasingly Jews aren't circumcising. There was a thread on that here a couple of months ago. I suggest you look at it before trying to make this an anti-semetic issue which it IS NOT.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have an older child. I have never participated in changing the diapers of nor potty training the children of people I was not related to. When changing my child, I did it to give my child the privacy they deserved and I never looked at another naked child on purpose. Who are all these perverted people looking at other people's children and looking long enough to form an opinion on their genitalia? I think less of those people.
That's fine, for you. But there are many people, myself included, who participate in some kind of baby-sitting swap that may at some point involving changing the diaper of someone else's child. I have changed the diapers of boy children that are not mine in that context, and yes, I have noticed if they are circumcised or not, in the same way I've noticed any other physical characteristic about that child. I'm not going out of my way to stare at the genitalia of someone else's child, but what you're saying is that in that situation, you would think less of me for changing a diaper? Should I allow my friend's son to sit in a poopy diaper until they get back from date night just so that you won't think less of me?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The marginal medical benefits, if there are any, do not warrant child mutilation. As for religion, God also said to stone adulterers but I do not see much of that going on in North America.
yes, it is a shame that Jews and their culture/faith weren't just finished off, huh? Then this wouldn't even be an issue!
Anonymous wrote:I have an older child. I have never participated in changing the diapers of nor potty training the children of people I was not related to. When changing my child, I did it to give my child the privacy they deserved and I never looked at another naked child on purpose. Who are all these perverted people looking at other people's children and looking long enough to form an opinion on their genitalia? I think less of those people.
Anonymous wrote:I have an older child. I have never participated in changing the diapers of nor potty training the children of people I was not related to. When changing my child, I did it to give my child the privacy they deserved and I never looked at another naked child on purpose. Who are all these perverted people looking at other people's children and looking long enough to form an opinion on their genitalia? I think less of those people.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The marginal medical benefits, if there are any, do not warrant child mutilation. As for religion, God also said to stone adulterers but I do not see much of that going on in North America.
yes, it is a shame that Jews and their culture/faith weren't just finished off, huh? Then this wouldn't even be an issue!
Anonymous wrote:The marginal medical benefits, if there are any, do not warrant child mutilation. As for religion, God also said to stone adulterers but I do not see much of that going on in North America.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why do I care? I care because it is an inhumane practice to do this routinely to newborn boys.
Do I raise it with you? No. But if it comes up, I will not sugarcoat my dismay.
How do I know? Like others have said, when you've had kids you'll realize that at some point you see pretty much all your friends changing diapers in front of you or helping with potty training. Other times, people mention it.
What happens then? I will notice your son's stubby scarred penis and I will flinch. I will try not to do this noticeably for your sake because, what's done is done, and for all I know you may now be better informed and regret it (like my in-laws). But I will feel sympathy for your child, just as I would if you mistreated him in another way.
I will think less of you. I will wonder how you came to that decision, as an educated, smart woman, who I obviously share some values with or we wouldn't be friends. I will feel a little sorry for you too. Because you are either willfully ignorant and have followed what you perceive to be the fashion and had cosmetic surgery on your newborn boy, or you are delusional and have believed the very scant and disputed evidence on the topic without having done any full research into the cultural basis of this.
And then, I feel thankful that I wasn't railroaded into doing this, by a husband, by a doctor, by in-laws or by society. I feel thankful that my boys each have their whole penis and that neither of them will feel bad about this as they get older. I feel bad that at some point, be it 5 or 10, 15 or 20 years from now, when this waning practice is widely believed as archaic you will realize that you made the wrong decision, that you were on the wrong side of this issue and that you will regret it.
You need help!! Stop looking in little babies diapers! Ewww!
Hm. It's not very easy not to look into a baby's diaper while you change it. You need to wipe him clean, for example. Do you suggest that people do this blindfolded? When you have children you'll realize that often you will end up helping friends and changing their kids diapers or taking them to go potty as they are older or making their baby smile or handing them a toy while they change them. And many kids go through a stage where it's hard to keep clothes on them.
That is what every pervert says to justify why they are looking.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why do I care? I care because it is an inhumane practice to do this routinely to newborn boys.
Do I raise it with you? No. But if it comes up, I will not sugarcoat my dismay.
How do I know? Like others have said, when you've had kids you'll realize that at some point you see pretty much all your friends changing diapers in front of you or helping with potty training. Other times, people mention it.
What happens then? I will notice your son's stubby scarred penis and I will flinch. I will try not to do this noticeably for your sake because, what's done is done, and for all I know you may now be better informed and regret it (like my in-laws). But I will feel sympathy for your child, just as I would if you mistreated him in another way.
I will think less of you. I will wonder how you came to that decision, as an educated, smart woman, who I obviously share some values with or we wouldn't be friends. I will feel a little sorry for you too. Because you are either willfully ignorant and have followed what you perceive to be the fashion and had cosmetic surgery on your newborn boy, or you are delusional and have believed the very scant and disputed evidence on the topic without having done any full research into the cultural basis of this.
And then, I feel thankful that I wasn't railroaded into doing this, by a husband, by a doctor, by in-laws or by society. I feel thankful that my boys each have their whole penis and that neither of them will feel bad about this as they get older. I feel bad that at some point, be it 5 or 10, 15 or 20 years from now, when this waning practice is widely believed as archaic you will realize that you made the wrong decision, that you were on the wrong side of this issue and that you will regret it.
You need help!! Stop looking in little babies diapers! Ewww!
Hm. It's not very easy not to look into a baby's diaper while you change it. You need to wipe him clean, for example. Do you suggest that people do this blindfolded? When you have children you'll realize that often you will end up helping friends and changing their kids diapers or taking them to go potty as they are older or making their baby smile or handing them a toy while they change them. And many kids go through a stage where it's hard to keep clothes on them.