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I've probably made most of the counter arguments here and my child is not in RCF immersion is not in DCC nor Bethesda. It's just non sensical that a child (through a program promoted by the district) would spend their entire school career in a district, wants to stay there and would be forced to leave because of bitter irrational parents.

My understanding of the proposal is that it will not affect the kids who are already at Westland and B-CC, but that they're looking for different, less crowded middle and upper schools to which to move the immersion kids together.

No, unfortunately this isn't true. They are saying now that it won't affect rising 8th graders but will affect 6th and 7th graders. And I have not heard of any move to other schools (which would be ok with me), and I'm fairly informed about what's going on.

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I've probably made most of the counter arguments here and my child is not in RCF immersion is not in DCC nor Bethesda. It's just non sensical that a child (through a program promoted by the district) would spend their entire school career in a district, wants to stay there and would be forced to leave because of bitter irrational parents.

My understanding of the proposal is that it will not affect the kids who are already at Westland and B-CC, but that they're looking for different, less crowded middle and upper schools to which to move the immersion kids together.

Great, if what you say is correct they can move the whole program ES to HS anywhere and it'd be fine by me.

I don't see why they would change automatic matriculation though if that's the case. Outside of immersion automatic matriculation makes sense for county wide programs at any school.

I've probably made most of the counter arguments here and my child is not in RCF immersion is not in DCC nor Bethesda. It's just non sensical that a child (through a program promoted by the district) would spend their entire school career in a district, wants to stay there and would be forced to leave because of bitter irrational parents.

My understanding of the proposal is that it will not affect the kids who are already at Westland and B-CC, but that they're looking for different, less crowded middle and upper schools to which to move the immersion kids together.

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Anonymous wrote:Not PP - my only post here has been the one that pointed out that B-CC is overcrowded - but I think the evidence is clear from this thread alone. Immersion parents are freaking out not because the program won't stay together, matriculating to another high school, but because that high school might not be B-CC anymore.

Also, housing prices.

Exactly

I've probably made most of the counter arguments here and my child is not in RCF immersion is not in DCC nor Bethesda. It's just non sensical that a child (through a program promoted by the district) would spend their entire school career in a district, wants to stay there and would be forced to leave because of bitter irrational parents.

Anonymous wrote:Not PP - my only post here has been the one that pointed out that B-CC is overcrowded - but I think the evidence is clear from this thread alone. Immersion parents are freaking out not because the program won't stay together, matriculating to another high school, but because that high school might not be B-CC anymore.

Also, housing prices.

Exactly

Not PP - my only post here has been the one that pointed out that B-CC is overcrowded - but I think the evidence is clear from this thread alone. Immersion parents are freaking out not because the program won't stay together, matriculating to another high school, but because that high school might not be B-CC anymore.

Also, housing prices.

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Anonymous wrote:What really bugs me isn't so much the change in the COSA policy -- I get the overcrowding thing. It's the nastiness that is revealed -- MCPS staff and parents saying that we are all just trying to sneak into a cluster but not "paying for it" as if this were a private school. It's school board members expressing open disdain that we would feel compelled to argue for what we felt was the best choice for our kids.

I don't know why I'm surprised but I really am.

The argument for the automatic matriculation to B-CC is a double-edged sword. Nasty? Perhaps just the revelation of the true intent of some families. If that doesn't include you, I wouldn't sweat it.

What people don't get is that this is a public school district, and our taxes go into a big pot. Just because you live in a more expensive neighborhodd doesn't mean you deserve better services.

I totally get the argument that says "our school is overcrowded and priority should be given to neighborhood kids." But that's not the argument that a lot of people are making.

I am actually glad that this happened when it did. Because it showed me that I really don't give a rats a** if my DS goes to school with a bunch of overpriveleged, entitled kids or not.

B-CC has better services than your home school? Funny, I didn't see that mentioned in your initial bullet list of arguments. Advice: Handle that double-edged sword a little more carefully if you want to "get in".

PP here. I guess I wasn't clear. I don't think it does but the people who live in the cluster seem to think it does.

You guess you weren't clear about what? Your own point? What evidence do you have that the people that live there think their school has better services?

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Anonymous wrote:What really bugs me isn't so much the change in the COSA policy -- I get the overcrowding thing. It's the nastiness that is revealed -- MCPS staff and parents saying that we are all just trying to sneak into a cluster but not "paying for it" as if this were a private school. It's school board members expressing open disdain that we would feel compelled to argue for what we felt was the best choice for our kids.

I don't know why I'm surprised but I really am.

The argument for the automatic matriculation to B-CC is a double-edged sword. Nasty? Perhaps just the revelation of the true intent of some families. If that doesn't include you, I wouldn't sweat it.

What people don't get is that this is a public school district, and our taxes go into a big pot. Just because you live in a more expensive neighborhodd doesn't mean you deserve better services.

I totally get the argument that says "our school is overcrowded and priority should be given to neighborhood kids." But that's not the argument that a lot of people are making.

I am actually glad that this happened when it did. Because it showed me that I really don't give a rats a** if my DS goes to school with a bunch of overpriveleged, entitled kids or not.

B-CC has better services than your home school? Funny, I didn't see that mentioned in your initial bullet list of arguments. Advice: Handle that double-edged sword a little more carefully if you want to "get in".

PP here. I guess I wasn't clear. I don't think it does but the people who live in the cluster seem to think it does.

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Anonymous wrote:What really bugs me isn't so much the change in the COSA policy -- I get the overcrowding thing. It's the nastiness that is revealed -- MCPS staff and parents saying that we are all just trying to sneak into a cluster but not "paying for it" as if this were a private school. It's school board members expressing open disdain that we would feel compelled to argue for what we felt was the best choice for our kids.

I don't know why I'm surprised but I really am.

The argument for the automatic matriculation to B-CC is a double-edged sword. Nasty? Perhaps just the revelation of the true intent of some families. If that doesn't include you, I wouldn't sweat it.

What people don't get is that this is a public school district, and our taxes go into a big pot. Just because you live in a more expensive neighborhodd doesn't mean you deserve better services.

I totally get the argument that says "our school is overcrowded and priority should be given to neighborhood kids." But that's not the argument that a lot of people are making.

I am actually glad that this happened when it did. Because it showed me that I really don't give a rats a** if my DS goes to school with a bunch of overpriveleged, entitled kids or not.

B-CC has better services than your home school? Funny, I didn't see that mentioned in your initial bullet list of arguments. Advice: Handle that double-edged sword a little more carefully if you want to "get in".

Anonymous wrote:The thing i find interesting is the odd way this was presented and pushed.

I actually don't find the policy change that problematic - what shocks me is how it was rolled out, the lack of outreach to potentially affected current and future immersion families, the odd way pta officers are used to shill policies on behalf of MCPS.

The lesson learned is that MCPS never implements policy in a transparent way. Mostly it works for them - but sometimes things implode in a messy and silly way.

Totally agree with this. I am an immersion parent. We had a meeting at RCF where the community superintendent promised us that if a change was contemplated, it wouldn't be sudden, there would be complete transprency and outreach to immersion parents. This isn't at all what happened. Lesson learned and I hope others pay attention. I know how MCPS admiistration talks about parents and it should have suprised me, but it did.

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Why are you claiming B-CC gets better services? How is that true?

Not the PP, but if people didn't believe that students got better services -- i.e., a better high school education -- at B-CC, there wouldn't be all of the fuss about who gets to go to B-CC. Of course, whether students actually do get better services at B-CC is another question.

The thing i find interesting is the odd way this was presented and pushed.

I actually don't find the policy change that problematic - what shocks me is how it was rolled out, the lack of outreach to potentially affected current and future immersion families, the odd way pta officers are used to shill policies on behalf of MCPS.

The lesson learned is that MCPS never implements policy in a transparent way. Mostly it works for them - but sometimes things implode in a messy and silly way.

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Anonymous wrote:What really bugs me isn't so much the change in the COSA policy -- I get the overcrowding thing. It's the nastiness that is revealed -- MCPS staff and parents saying that we are all just trying to sneak into a cluster but not "paying for it" as if this were a private school. It's school board members expressing open disdain that we would feel compelled to argue for what we felt was the best choice for our kids.

I don't know why I'm surprised but I really am.

The argument for the automatic matriculation to B-CC is a double-edged sword. Nasty? Perhaps just the revelation of the true intent of some families. If that doesn't include you, I wouldn't sweat it.

What people don't get is that this is a public school district, and our taxes go into a big pot. Just because you live in a more expensive neighborhodd doesn't mean you deserve better services.

I totally get the argument that says "our school is overcrowded and priority should be given to neighborhood kids." But that's not the argument that a lot of people are making.

I am actually glad that this happened when it did. Because it showed me that I really don't give a rats a** if my DS goes to school with a bunch of overpriveleged, entitled kids or not.

Why are you claiming B-CC gets better services? How is that true?

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Anonymous wrote:What really bugs me isn't so much the change in the COSA policy -- I get the overcrowding thing. It's the nastiness that is revealed -- MCPS staff and parents saying that we are all just trying to sneak into a cluster but not "paying for it" as if this were a private school. It's school board members expressing open disdain that we would feel compelled to argue for what we felt was the best choice for our kids.

I don't know why I'm surprised but I really am.

The argument for the automatic matriculation to B-CC is a double-edged sword. Nasty? Perhaps just the revelation of the true intent of some families. If that doesn't include you, I wouldn't sweat it.

What people don't get is that this is a public school district, and our taxes go into a big pot. Just because you live in a more expensive neighborhodd doesn't mean you deserve better services.

I totally get the argument that says "our school is overcrowded and priority should be given to neighborhood kids." But that's not the argument that a lot of people are making.

I am actually glad that this happened when it did. Because it showed me that I really don't give a rats a** if my DS goes to school with a bunch of overpriveleged, entitled kids or not.

Anonymous wrote:What really bugs me isn't so much the change in the COSA policy -- I get the overcrowding thing. It's the nastiness that is revealed -- MCPS staff and parents saying that we are all just trying to sneak into a cluster but not "paying for it" as if this were a private school. It's school board members expressing open disdain that we would feel compelled to argue for what we felt was the best choice for our kids.

I don't know why I'm surprised but I really am.

The argument for the automatic matriculation to B-CC is a double-edged sword. Nasty? Perhaps just the revelation of the true intent of some families. If that doesn't include you, I wouldn't sweat it.