Anonymous
Post 01/12/2013 11:44     Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:Well, from where I stand:

The "exaggerated claims" are:

the cabal of boosters of you conjure up(who can't exist because there is no school):

1. Think Sela will be a good school (The nerve!)
2. Believe that they found a good location (must be crazy!)
3. Hope to be part of DCI (how dare they!)
4. Believe the school will be diverse (which can be true because your snowflake won't be attending)
5. Think teaching Hebrew is a fine idea (crazy, because your snowflake won't be studying Hebrew)

I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, until I actually looked for evidence of "fabrications and exaggerated claims" and they simply don't exist. So, while I am loathe to conjure up my own conspiracy theories (aka your cabal of boosters canard), I think there is some wacky anti-charter or anti-Sela, or anti-Jewish element at play here and it's very sad. I take it very personally when people opine on what the children of DC want or need, since this usually a cloaked referenced to black children, and we have a multi-racial home. I welcome Sela and any other bilingual opportunity for my children.



This is pretty much what I saw as well. As for how much traffic their table at the Expo got, that's a matter of opinion - and as for how many applications they will or won't get, that's a matter of hope and speculation. Sela posters are every bit as much entitled to their opinions, hopes and speculations as anyone else.

I'm not a Sela supporter, we are enrolled in another school - but even so I don't see any reason to bash anyone else's school. This whole "Ugh, those Sela people and their optimism and hope to succeed... I can't stand them" thing is really quite bewildering. I mean, really. WTF. Pee + Cheerios?
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2013 11:23     Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, from where I stand:

The "exaggerated claims" are:

the cabal of boosters of you conjure up(who can't exist because there is no school):

1. Think Sela will be a good school (The nerve!)
2. Believe that they found a good location (must be crazy!)
3. Hope to be part of DCI (how dare they!)
4. Believe the school will be diverse (which can be true because your snowflake won't be attending)
5. Think teaching Hebrew is a fine idea (crazy, because your snowflake won't be studying Hebrew)

I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, until I actually looked for evidence of "fabrications and exaggerated claims" and they simply don't exist. So, while I am loathe to conjure up my own conspiracy theories (aka your cabal of boosters canard), I think there is some wacky anti-charter or anti-Sela, or anti-Jewish element at play here and it's very sad. I take it very personally when people opine on what the children of DC want or need, since this usually a cloaked referenced to black children, and we have a multi-racial home. I welcome Sela and any other bilingual opportunity for my children.


Joking, right? Without looking up anything I can remember...

When someone claimed there have been a mob around sela table at the charter expo (debunked)
When someone claimed sela will be part or DCI as a matter of fact (hope does not equal fact)
When someone inserted out of the blue in a thread about bilingualism that sela is going to be overwhelmed with applications, ignoring the charters with other languages


Probably not joking, just more major denial.


Agreed. Someone should look up "major denial" in Hebrew.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2013 10:54     Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
So the idea is that Sela is "too narrow and too specific to just one group" because they teach Hebrew.

But that's basically what Roots does with their focus on teaching with a focus on African-Americanism. 12 million Jews, 48 million African Americans.

Somebody wants to draw a line and separate on those bases. I sure don't.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2013 09:44     Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, from where I stand:

The "exaggerated claims" are:

the cabal of boosters of you conjure up(who can't exist because there is no school):

1. Think Sela will be a good school (The nerve!)
2. Believe that they found a good location (must be crazy!)
3. Hope to be part of DCI (how dare they!)
4. Believe the school will be diverse (which can be true because your snowflake won't be attending)
5. Think teaching Hebrew is a fine idea (crazy, because your snowflake won't be studying Hebrew)

I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, until I actually looked for evidence of "fabrications and exaggerated claims" and they simply don't exist. So, while I am loathe to conjure up my own conspiracy theories (aka your cabal of boosters canard), I think there is some wacky anti-charter or anti-Sela, or anti-Jewish element at play here and it's very sad. I take it very personally when people opine on what the children of DC want or need, since this usually a cloaked referenced to black children, and we have a multi-racial home. I welcome Sela and any other bilingual opportunity for my children.


Joking, right? Without looking up anything I can remember...

When someone claimed there have been a mob around sela table at the charter expo (debunked)
When someone claimed sela will be part or DCI as a matter of fact (hope does not equal fact)
When someone inserted out of the blue in a thread about bilingualism that sela is going to be overwhelmed with applications, ignoring the charters with other languages


Probably not joking, just more major denial.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2013 09:41     Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Best to just ignore it if it bothers you so much... because history has already shown us time and time again that there will always be a lot of fanfare, hype and promoting from enthusiastic supporters anytime any new school opens. It's simply not reasonable or realistic to ever expect that to change,


And also any given school that you treat as a punching bag (YY, etc.) generally goes onto being successful, so perhaps you should sit back and lay easy on the attacks and wait for it to open, and then (e.g., MV) slag them for the receptionist's lisp, or the wrong shade of eggshell in the bathrooms, or the lack of locally sourced vegetarian pâté for afternoon snack.


Sela should be so lucky that the only key to being successful is being a punching bag on DCUM. Too bad success also requires offering a curriculum relevant to more than one specific population. I agree with other PPS who say give up on trying to explain the opposition to the misrepresentations. Just ignore any posts that aren't relevant to thread topic and call BS when it's BS and move on.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2013 09:38     Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, from where I stand:

The "exaggerated claims" are:

the cabal of boosters of you conjure up(who can't exist because there is no school):

1. Think Sela will be a good school (The nerve!)
2. Believe that they found a good location (must be crazy!)
3. Hope to be part of DCI (how dare they!)
4. Believe the school will be diverse (which can be true because your snowflake won't be attending)
5. Think teaching Hebrew is a fine idea (crazy, because your snowflake won't be studying Hebrew)

I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, until I actually looked for evidence of "fabrications and exaggerated claims" and they simply don't exist. So, while I am loathe to conjure up my own conspiracy theories (aka your cabal of boosters canard), I think there is some wacky anti-charter or anti-Sela, or anti-Jewish element at play here and it's very sad. I take it very personally when people opine on what the children of DC want or need, since this usually a cloaked referenced to black children, and we have a multi-racial home. I welcome Sela and any other bilingual opportunity for my children.


Joking, right? Without looking up anything I can remember...

When someone claimed there have been a mob around sela table at the charter expo (debunked)
When someone claimed sela will be part or DCI as a matter of fact (hope does not equal fact)
When someone inserted out of the blue in a thread about bilingualism that sela is going to be overwhelmed with applications, ignoring the charters with other languages


The worst part for me is when sela boosters shout anti-charter! Anti-Jewish! When you simply try to distinguish hope from fact
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2013 09:28     Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:Well, from where I stand:

The "exaggerated claims" are:

the cabal of boosters of you conjure up(who can't exist because there is no school):

1. Think Sela will be a good school (The nerve!)
2. Believe that they found a good location (must be crazy!)
3. Hope to be part of DCI (how dare they!)
4. Believe the school will be diverse (which can be true because your snowflake won't be attending)
5. Think teaching Hebrew is a fine idea (crazy, because your snowflake won't be studying Hebrew)

I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, until I actually looked for evidence of "fabrications and exaggerated claims" and they simply don't exist. So, while I am loathe to conjure up my own conspiracy theories (aka your cabal of boosters canard), I think there is some wacky anti-charter or anti-Sela, or anti-Jewish element at play here and it's very sad. I take it very personally when people opine on what the children of DC want or need, since this usually a cloaked referenced to black children, and we have a multi-racial home. I welcome Sela and any other bilingual opportunity for my children.


Joking, right? Without looking up anything I can remember...

When someone claimed there have been a mob around sela table at the charter expo (debunked)
When someone claimed sela will be part or DCI as a matter of fact (hope does not equal fact)
When someone inserted out of the blue in a thread about bilingualism that sela is going to be overwhelmed with applications, ignoring the charters with other languages
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2013 09:01     Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Well, from where I stand:

The "exaggerated claims" are:

the cabal of boosters of you conjure up(who can't exist because there is no school):

1. Think Sela will be a good school (The nerve!)
2. Believe that they found a good location (must be crazy!)
3. Hope to be part of DCI (how dare they!)
4. Believe the school will be diverse (which can be true because your snowflake won't be attending)
5. Think teaching Hebrew is a fine idea (crazy, because your snowflake won't be studying Hebrew)

I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, until I actually looked for evidence of "fabrications and exaggerated claims" and they simply don't exist. So, while I am loathe to conjure up my own conspiracy theories (aka your cabal of boosters canard), I think there is some wacky anti-charter or anti-Sela, or anti-Jewish element at play here and it's very sad. I take it very personally when people opine on what the children of DC want or need, since this usually a cloaked referenced to black children, and we have a multi-racial home. I welcome Sela and any other bilingual opportunity for my children.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2013 08:48     Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Best to just ignore it if it bothers you so much... because history has already shown us time and time again that there will always be a lot of fanfare, hype and promoting from enthusiastic supporters anytime any new school opens. It's simply not reasonable or realistic to ever expect that to change,


And also any given school that you treat as a punching bag (YY, etc.) generally goes onto being successful, so perhaps you should sit back and lay easy on the attacks and wait for it to open, and then (e.g., MV) slag them for the receptionist's lisp, or the wrong shade of eggshell in the bathrooms, or the lack of locally sourced vegetarian pâté for afternoon snack.


You are missing the point. No one is criticizing Sela...no one can criticize what doesn't exist. What we have been discussing are the fabrications and exaggerated claims by sela boosters. YY at least is an operating school.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2013 08:43     Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Best to just ignore it if it bothers you so much... because history has already shown us time and time again that there will always be a lot of fanfare, hype and promoting from enthusiastic supporters anytime any new school opens. It's simply not reasonable or realistic to ever expect that to change,


And also any given school that you treat as a punching bag (YY, etc.) generally goes onto being successful, so perhaps you should sit back and lay easy on the attacks and wait for it to open, and then (e.g., MV) slag them for the receptionist's lisp, or the wrong shade of eggshell in the bathrooms, or the lack of locally sourced vegetarian pâté for afternoon snack.


OMG, you have captured the DCUM nasties so perfectly, I spit out my coffee.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2013 08:05     Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:Best to just ignore it if it bothers you so much... because history has already shown us time and time again that there will always be a lot of fanfare, hype and promoting from enthusiastic supporters anytime any new school opens. It's simply not reasonable or realistic to ever expect that to change,


And also any given school that you treat as a punching bag (YY, etc.) generally goes onto being successful, so perhaps you should sit back and lay easy on the attacks and wait for it to open, and then (e.g., MV) slag them for the receptionist's lisp, or the wrong shade of eggshell in the bathrooms, or the lack of locally sourced vegetarian pâté for afternoon snack.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2013 07:39     Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Best to just ignore it if it bothers you so much... because history has already shown us time and time again that there will always be a lot of fanfare, hype and promoting from enthusiastic supporters anytime any new school opens. It's simply not reasonable or realistic to ever expect that to change,
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2013 07:01     Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There aren't any "SELA Boosters". The school doesn't exist yet.


Tell that to the people who bring it up at every opportunity, relevant to the discussion/thread or not. Does not matter to them that the school does not exist yet.


So some people think it's a good idea.

So some people are enthusiastic about it.

So what?

Were you brought up to punch people in the face every time they smile or say something positive, or what?



No but don't expect good wishes from other people (who had no opinion about SELA prior) when you keep bringing it up in an obnoxious and pushy manner whether relevant to the topic or not and before the school is opened.


PP I totally agree with you but it's clearly hopeless. There is denial about triggering the backlash with way more than smiles - with obnoxious insertion and over the top self promotion. Best to try to ignore it at this stage.


(Different PP) yes, either ignore or simply call BS when we see it, instead of engaging in long exchanges.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2013 00:34     Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There aren't any "SELA Boosters". The school doesn't exist yet.


Tell that to the people who bring it up at every opportunity, relevant to the discussion/thread or not. Does not matter to them that the school does not exist yet.


So some people think it's a good idea.

So some people are enthusiastic about it.

So what?

Were you brought up to punch people in the face every time they smile or say something positive, or what?



No but don't expect good wishes from other people (who had no opinion about SELA prior) when you keep bringing it up in an obnoxious and pushy manner whether relevant to the topic or not and before the school is opened.


PP I totally agree with you but it's clearly hopeless. There is denial about triggering the backlash with way more than smiles - with obnoxious insertion and over the top self promotion. Best to try to ignore it at this stage.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2013 23:18     Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There aren't any "SELA Boosters". The school doesn't exist yet.


Tell that to the people who bring it up at every opportunity, relevant to the discussion/thread or not. Does not matter to them that the school does not exist yet.


So some people think it's a good idea.

So some people are enthusiastic about it.

So what?

Were you brought up to punch people in the face every time they smile or say something positive, or what?



No but don't expect good wishes from other people (who had no opinion about SELA prior) when you keep bringing it up in an obnoxious and pushy manner whether relevant to the topic or not and before the school is opened.