I grew up believing in Santa. No trust issues. Great relationship with my parents. When on to become a productive member of society. What's the harm in a few years of fantasy while a kid still is game? Some of you sound like you can't relax enough to let you kid enjoy the magic of the holiday while they still can. Good grief.

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Anonymous wrote:12:26 - ITA. You wonder how miserable these people are that can't give children a few years of merriment. I just tell my kids that, and it teaches them something entirely new

My kids have a great time at Christmas, even without Santa.

I am not sorry that I don't lie to my kids about reality. Your kids are going to realize eventually that the people they trust most -- their parents -- are huge liars, who are perfectly happy telling them whatever the parents think is best, regardless of whether it's true or not. Your kids can't trust you.

Too bad for them.

Thousands of kids believe in Santa. None that I know of have trust issues because of it. I'm not the parent of a young child. Three of mine are gown. One has a family of his own. No trust issues despite many, many years of Santa. I think most kids are o.k. with it.

Anonymous wrote:12:26 - ITA. You wonder how miserable these people are that can't give children a few years of merriment. I just tell my kids that, and it teaches them something entirely new

My kids have a great time at Christmas, even without Santa.

I am not sorry that I don't lie to my kids about reality. Your kids are going to realize eventually that the people they trust most -- their parents -- are huge liars, who are perfectly happy telling them whatever the parents think is best, regardless of whether it's true or not. Your kids can't trust you.

Too bad for them.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids who do that are jerks.

yep, and so are their parents.

A Jewish kid told my DD that her parents said that Santa, the Tooth Fairy, and Leprachauns weren't real. My DD shrugged it off and told me that it was too bad she didn't believe in Santa because she definitely wouldn't be getting any presents from him. I think some of the kids that like to spoil the fun for others are doing it because they are the type that don't like others to have fun if they can't have fun. Sad, but they often grow up to be people that can't dream.

Uh, how do you draw that conclusion from what the "Jewish kid" said? That he doesn't like others to have fun if he doesn't? Strange.

12:26 - ITA. You wonder how miserable these people are that can't give children a few years of merriment. I just tell my kids that, and it teaches them something entirely new

Anonymous wrote:Kids who do that are jerks.

yep, and so are their parents.

A Jewish kid told my DD that her parents said that Santa, the Tooth Fairy, and Leprachauns weren't real. My DD shrugged it off and told me that it was too bad she didn't believe in Santa because she definitely wouldn't be getting any presents from him. I think some of the kids that like to spoil the fun for others are doing it because they are the type that don't like others to have fun if they can't have fun. Sad, but they often grow up to be people that can't dream.

Any my kids don't believe in Santa and they still get presents so telling your child that kids who don't believe in Santa won't get presents is another lie that will soon be challenged when they find out that yep, actually other kids got presents too.

My children know that your kids will get gifts. They just won't be from Santa. Kids who don't believe in Santa or who are on the naughty list don't get gifts from Santa - their parents have to step in and buy them.

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Anonymous wrote:My child is "Max." Sorry lady, but my child will shout it to the world and there is nothing you can do about it.

That's a great kid you're raising there.

Are you as big a loudmouth as your kid? Is that where little "Max" gets it from?

Go sit on santa's lap, sounds like you need some action, angry lady.

Anonymous wrote:For god's sake. First grade is when it happens. Max wasn't saying this to dispel your daughter's innocence. This is a very serious conversation among first graders, and they really are concerned about the truth.

This will be the first of many truths you can't protect her from. Get over it.

this about sums it up

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Anonymous wrote:Kids who do that are jerks.

And so are their parents.

Now that's the Christmas spirit!

We don't do Santa and it isn't something we tell the kids they can't talk about. They do know other kids believe in Santa. Our kids have had other kids tell them that God/Jesus isn't real we don't get mad at parents or say ride things about those families because their beliefs differ and if some family believes in Santa then surely that belief will pass the test of some other kid questioning it.

Also my kids know that other kids don't even celebrate Christmas and that those kids not getting presents is not because they are bad kids. There are also many poor families out there who can't afford Christmas and those kids don't get presents either - again not because they are bad. Santa is really about materialism and a middle /upper class fantasy.

Any my kids don't believe in Santa and they still get presents so telling your child that kids who don't believe in Santa won't get presents is another lie that will soon be challenged when they find out that yep, actually other kids got presents too.

As someone who didn't grow up with Santa and doesn't do Santa, I don't really get the do or die attitude that some people have.

So I guess the Christians can tell their kids how wrong non Christians are and let our kids yell it from the rooftops??? We try to be inclusive and now just say "Happy Holidays" etc instead of "Merry Christmas" so as not to offend and be all inclusive, but it's too much to ask some respect in return?
C'Mon!

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, and my child feels sorry for them.

He needn't bother. Many of us who grew up without santa are fine with it. Really. We don't actually want to be Christians; if we did, we would be.

Anonymous wrote:My child is "Max." Sorry lady, but my child will shout it to the world and there is nothing you can do about it.

That's a great kid you're raising there.

Are you as big a loudmouth as your kid? Is that where little "Max" gets it from?

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Anonymous wrote:Kids who do that are jerks.

+10000 and so are their "I don't care if my kid shouts it to the world" parents.

The kids aren't jerks. Usually they are quite ernest about the matter.