jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Jill Stein I could understand voting for, but Gary Johnson seems like a Tea Partier (who would slash every govt program) with liberal social views. Is he really any different from Ron Paul? I am just curious.

I don't think there is much difference between Johnson and Paul. But, I could be convinced to vote for Paul also if I was sure he wouldn't win. It's good to have people who will speak out in support of civil liberties and a non-interventionist foreign policy. But, I'll probably end up voting for Stein. I just don't know that much about her at this point.

I heard her interviewed on the radio. She seemed surprisingly inarticulate but I have to go back and find out more about her before deciding. I realized that I was planning to vote for Obama but since I live in the District I don't have to, so I may vote for a third party candidate myself.

Anonymous wrote:There were 1.4 million bankruptcies filed last year.

Yes, but almost all of them are consumer bankruptcies and this is not exactly a shocking statistic given history:





Paul Ryan's statement was that there were 1.4 million BUSINESS bankruptcies. That's about as honest as if I told you 2.4 million people were killed by GUNS. No, about 30,000 people were killed by guns (and in case you are counting about 10,000 are gun homicides). 2.4 million people die in the US of all causes from heart disease to diabetes to falling off of pogo sticks.

He really is earning the term "Lyin' Ryan". And if he's not lying, he is demonstrating statistical incompetence that is not a good quality in the guy responsible for your budget deal.

"Figures don't lie, but Liars figure", figures Ryan.

You forget that corporations are the only "people" Romney and Ryan care about, so it follows that if 1.4 million people filed for bankruptcy, they must all have been businesses, right?


Never mind how many had to file because they didn't have health insurance, or extended unemployment ran out.

Anonymous wrote:There were 1.4 million bankruptcies filed last year.

Not by businesses.

There were 1.4 million bankruptcies filed last year.

Lyin' Ryan strikes again. In a speech yesterday:

"Last year, under President Obama’s failed leadership, 1.4 million businesses filed for bankruptcy."

Actual number was 43,694.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/03/paul-adds-some-loaded-figures-to-question-of-better-off/

He would probably round that differently now, however.

"Flashdance" is on right now. Jennifer Beale's character getting in to an elite ballet academy at her age is akin to Paul Ryan breaking a 3 hour marathon.

I like Krugman's points:

"But serious runners find that implausible: the difference between sub-three and over-four is the difference between extraordinary and perfectly ordinary, and it’s not something a runner could get wrong, unless he’s a fabulist who imagines his own reality. And does suggesting that Mr. Ryan is delusional rather than dishonest actually make the situation any better?"

"Obviously nobody cares how fast Mr. Ryan can run, and even his strange marathon misstatement wouldn’t be worth talking about in isolation. What makes this incident so striking is, instead, the way it resonates with the essential Rosie-Ruizness of Mr. Ryan’s whole political persona, which is built around big boasts about accomplishments he hasn’t accomplished."

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://lyingryan.com/

YES!

I guess Jeff will let this post stay because he agrees with it, uh I mean because of its extensive, thought-provoking commentary.

I'll let it stand because it is not starting a thread. BTW, I have deleted a number of liberal "link-only" threads.

Totally different. Got it. I didn't see that in FAQ.

Let me report myself on this post. I didn't know the policy but I've never suspected Jeff of being unfair in this regard. Sorry.

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://lyingryan.com/

YES!

I guess Jeff will let this post stay because he agrees with it, uh I mean because of its extensive, thought-provoking commentary.

I'll let it stand because it is not starting a thread. BTW, I have deleted a number of liberal "link-only" threads.

Totally different. Got it. I didn't see that in FAQ.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://lyingryan.com/

YES!

I guess Jeff will let this post stay because he agrees with it, uh I mean because of its extensive, thought-provoking commentary.

I'll let it stand because it is not starting a thread. BTW, I have deleted a number of liberal "link-only" threads.

Anonymous wrote:http://lyingryan.com/

YES!

I guess Jeff will let this post stay because he agrees with it, uh I mean because of its extensive, thought-provoking commentary.

http://lyingryan.com/

YES!

Anonymous wrote:"Ryan actually voted for the auto bailout."

I stand corrected. After a bit of research, I see he did vote in support of it. Interesting, as I had heard exactly the opposite.

I'm shocked that there might be misinformation out there on Ryan's positions/votes. Let me guess, one of your Republican friends led you astray?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cute quote-cropping.
Are you old enough to remember a convention centered on a Wendy's slogan? If so I'm sure you'd distinguish that as all in good fun and funny. But yeah, I think 99% of politicians are cut from the same cloth.

I'm certainly old enough to recall "Where's the meat?" A cute way of saying you don't think there is a lot of substance in your opponent's campaign is, in my lexicon, a gibe, not a lie. You can disagree about how much "meat" there is, but telling a religious Jew that ham is turkey is different, and I think that's a better meat analogy for what the GOP is feeding us these days.

It was beef. Not meat. Were you lying? What some call cute or harmless others find highly offensive. See the parallel thread about Creationism.