Anonymous
Post 07/22/2012 14:52     Subject: Re:Up to what grade is it 'OK' to take kids out of school for a vacation?

Beyond the younger grades you should avoid doing taking your kids out of school. I agree with the previous poster who mentioned teaching kids a respect for school. Unfortunately, many parents do not respect the classroom or teachers. Many think it is there job to catch up a child who was out for an extra vacation. I hear parents all the time belittle what teachers do and feel they can do as good a job with their kids at home. I wish parents like this would home school and stop treating the classroom like a drop in baby sitting service. I do think some schools are more rigorous than others and a child may find it harder to make up a week of work. I know my DS's school is very rigorous and a week would be a nightmare for a student to make up. Most teachers would not mind doing it for a sick student, but not where a parent has elected to take them out for travel.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2012 22:33     Subject: Re:Up to what grade is it 'OK' to take kids out of school for a vacation?

Anonymous wrote:I am old school. We only travel on school breaks. I teach from Kindergarten on that school/education is supremely important. My son had perfect attendance this year. I don't let them stay up late on school nights either.

There is a disconnect these days. Our Principal routinely has to send emails and letters admonishing family for continually taking their kids out of school for vacations. It is crazy to me. They get many 4 day weekends, week at Xmas and ov spring break and 2.5 months in the summer.

I think you need to have your kids respect and value school starting at the beginning.


Not everyone can afford to vacation on spring break or winter break, besides getting off work then when spouse is law enforcement. I say early education you can miss a week.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2012 12:37     Subject: Re:Up to what grade is it 'OK' to take kids out of school for a vacation?

7:32 Not sure why you care so much that my DC took off two days before Christmas during kindergarten and missed the holiday craft and why you think all of a sudden he'll be one the of the "entitled ones as if one instance makes a character. I'm sure we'll have to work with him over the summer to catch him up. Why do others taking off vacation during the school year have anything to do with you? More time for your snowflake to have time with the teacher.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2012 23:07     Subject: Re:Up to what grade is it 'OK' to take kids out of school for a vacation?

My husband and I took our DC out of 3rd grade for a week to go to a family reunion in London. It was ERB week so the timing worked out perfectly. The kids missed nothing that couldn't be made up quickly, and they didn't have to take annoying standardized tests that count for nothing at a ridiculously young age.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2012 20:47     Subject: Up to what grade is it 'OK' to take kids out of school for a vacation?

I was pulled out of 2nd grade for a month to visit family overseas. My teacher gave me all the worksheets that they were going to cover that month. I finished it in 3 days. I was ahead when I got back.

I would pull my kid for a weeks vacation until middle school probably.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2012 20:22     Subject: Re:Up to what grade is it 'OK' to take kids out of school for a vacation?

I would do it until kindergarten and not after 1st grade.
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2012 14:18     Subject: Re:Up to what grade is it 'OK' to take kids out of school for a vacation?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Gosh I have to say I'm really surprised by this thread.

I have taken my kids (K and 1st grader) out of school for 2-3 vacations this year that involved missing school for 2-3 days each. (frequently extending a long weekend).

I agree that I try to teach my kids that school is important, and that it is their "job". But I also think family time is SUPER important. We are lucky enough that both sets of grandparents are in good health, and WANT to vacation with us. Due to large families, we can't always work everything around the kids schedules or school vacations. I acknowledge that pretty soon -- 3rd? 4th grade? -- they will start missing actual learning when we pull them out of school, and it will get harder and we won't do it as often. But right now? Its an issue of priorities.

My kids go to a very well regarded elementary school in Ffx County... but let's get real -- there is NOTHING that they are missing currently for 2-3 days that they can't figure out. For me, its a matter of priorities. While school is important, I also think connecting with family and knowing your grandparents is also important. I took both kids out of school for 3 days in January to go on a cruise with the grandparents. By educational standards, it was complete crap (like Disney). They didn't "learn" anything -- other than the important life skill of how to be flexible travellers and the excitement of visiting Mexico (even if all they saw was a beach in Cozumel for 5 hours) But I would do it again in a heartbeat. When they're 20, they will not be damaged by having missed 3 days of school... but they will always remember the excitement of going on their first cruise ship with Nana and Granddad. That is worth something in my view. Even if it is just purely fun.


I am the poster above. I am not the poster who responded to the question about why I can't just schedule it around vacation... but I would like to respond. And yes, sure, price is part of it.

But really it boils down to a weighing of priorities. If I were to schedule vacations entirely around school, it would limit where we could afford to go, what we could do, and who we could go with. If you've ever scheduled a vacation with extended family (which is important to me), you would know that it is hard to find something that fits everyone's needs. For me, the question is simply this: Yes, I COULD go on a shorter/different/more expensive vacation that would allow me to keep my child in school without missing a day... but WHY? There is something to be said for teaching your child that school is a priority. And certainly that is inconsistent with taking off to Disney World without regard for the school schedule. But, IMO, there is plenty of time to teach that lesson, and I don't feel it needs to start in 1st grade. So why else should I pay more/do less on my vacation to avoid missing a day of school? Is it because it is disruptive to the class? Disrespectful of the teacher? Will my child be woefully behind if he misses 2 days?

... .


none of the above. You are teaching them it is o.k. to follow some rules but ignore others if they are inconvenient. This can become quite a slippery slope if you are not careful.



Suffice to say, you've made your priorities clear.


It's not JUST about saving money. In a large family like mine... travelling ONLY when my kids are already out of school would certainly mean fewer family vacations (3 in a summer instead of 4 all year?), Less time with cousins, and probably less time with family altogether. It's a comprimise. If you think family togetherness is important (as I do), then everyone has to make allowances. Even me and my kids.

And for the record, I really am asking those questions I've posed. Taking a 7th grader out of algebra for a week is one thing -- either he'll be really behind, or the teacher has to get his assignments ready ahead of time. That seems like a legit inconvenience. But no one (yet) has made that case for me for my K and 1st grader. I've heard at least one teacher say she thinks its disrespectful. But most teachers I've talked to don't really get that worked up about this with young kids. Honestly, if I had a teacher tell me she thought it was terribly disruptive for my Kindergartner to be gone for 2 days, I'd wonder what was wrong with her. She has 26 kids. If the absence of a couple each day throws her game plan off that much, I don't think she's much of a teacher.

I'm sure there is some MINIMAL level of disruption when my kids are gone... but I really think at this age it is minimal.
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2012 10:17     Subject: Re:Up to what grade is it 'OK' to take kids out of school for a vacation?

I sometimes take my DS out Of school for a vacation. We usually leave a day before school is out, so he only misses 1 half day. There is really no learning during half days before a holiday. They get to school at 8, eat their lunch at 10(!), and go home at 11:30. This allows us to get started early on our vacation, airfare is a little more reasonable, and DS is not really missing anything at school. His teachers have never seemed to mind it.
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2012 09:41     Subject: Up to what grade is it 'OK' to take kids out of school for a vacation?

Anonymous wrote:That's right. You have to be careful. We took our son out of school three years ago and haven't looked back since. I new realize that we have to keep homeschooling him because if he goes back to regular school 'm sure he'll miss a bunch of days because he'll sometimes have better things to do and he will completely blow off any homework that he doesn't think is useful learning. And I'll agree with him. It's a slippery slope.


Oops, typo.

That's right. You have to be careful. We took our son out of school three years ago and haven't looked back. I now realize that we have to keep homeschooling him because if he goes back to regular school 'm sure he'll miss a bunch of days because he'll sometimes have better things to do and he will completely blow off any homework that he doesn't think is useful learning. And I'll agree with him. It's a slippery slope.
Anonymous
Post 06/28/2012 09:39     Subject: Up to what grade is it 'OK' to take kids out of school for a vacation?

Anonymous wrote:And I'm sure that none of those bonding vacation times could be scheduled for the months between June and August when school is out and you're trying to find camps for your kid, right? It isn't about "bonding" or finding enough time to travel. At least be honest about it. Some people care about teaching their kids to follow the rules, even when they aren't fun, and others don't. Life lessons aren't always fun.


That's right. You have to be careful. We took our son out of school three years ago and haven't looked back since. I new realize that we have to keep homeschooling him because if he goes back to regular school 'm sure he'll miss a bunch of days because he'll sometimes have better things to do and he will completely blow off any homework that he doesn't think is useful learning. And I'll agree with him. It's a slippery slope.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2012 11:44     Subject: Re:Up to what grade is it 'OK' to take kids out of school for a vacation?

Sakes alive - this post has one or more people with their panties in a massive wad. We would miss a week a year in elementary school with no ill effects. GET A GRIP PEOPLE!
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2012 11:30     Subject: Up to what grade is it 'OK' to take kids out of school for a vacation?

Wider= wonder
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2012 11:30     Subject: Up to what grade is it 'OK' to take kids out of school for a vacation?

Good tie in to the threads on why American kids have entitlement issues and problems following rules. Then their parents get frustrated with them and wider why they have teens who are difficult to manage.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2012 07:48     Subject: Re:Up to what grade is it 'OK' to take kids out of school for a vacation?

^ At first there were several high-minded reasons given for doing this, but then it came out that really they were doing it because it was cheaper than going during school holidays. Well, at least they are honest.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2012 07:32     Subject: Re:Up to what grade is it 'OK' to take kids out of school for a vacation?

Anonymous wrote:Our kindergarten teacher was off for several scheduled days this year once I remember during the 100th day of kindergarten celebration which is a pretty big day for that age. Why should she or any teacher be upset that my DC misses a day or two for one of our own family events? Especially close to Christmas and New Years. Luckily it was no big deal for us or her. How many non teaching staff took vacation during the school year? Shouldn't they feel guilty too and stop taking off then? The school shouldn't be overly responsible for getting the children up to speed, but parents shouldn't feel horrible about pulling their young children out for a couple of days a year either.


You are treating a teacher's and pupil's absence as the same? Clearly, you must have missed a lot of school as a child. Particularly, the days they taught reasoning and sense-making.