Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm different than most folks here, because I think some laws are a little excessive, and think it's ok to ignore some of them. Healthy dogs need a chance to be free, and this seems like a great setup. OP, I hope you're able to work something out. Maybe it might be a good idea to meet with the other 4 dog-owning neighbors and come up with a strategy for approaching the new neighbor. Pick the one who is most ingratiating (guessing this isn't you!) and hope for the best. Good luck.

I am in support of talking to the HOA about allowing a dog park. But I disagree with your post. If dogs are supposed to be leashed, the bitchy neighbor has every right to complain. Healthy dogs need a chance to be free, but the 'burbs are not the best place for doggie freedom. Human freedom from having your dog jump on, chase, scare or bite us - outside of YOUR property - comes first.

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Anonymous wrote:13:29 poster again. If the space is owned by the HOA and five of the six households agree to using it as an unofficial dog park, why not take the matter to the HOA governing board? See if you can get HOA approval to use the space for this purpose.

Yep. That's the right course of action. Just bully the new neighbor so you can "technically" break the law at your "unofficial" dog park. Why not just build a meth lab there if that's what the majority of the households want. What happens when some of the neighbors move out and non dog owners move in. Do you have to change it back?

Not a good option in my opinion.

Who owns the land? If the HOA owns it and agrees to make it a dog park, problem solved.

OP, can I ask a little more detail about what happened?

Your dog ran up to a child, did you call him back immediately? Did you call him back when you saw the child was afraid? Did he come immediately? Did the dog actually make contact with the child?

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Anonymous wrote:13:29 poster again. If the space is owned by the HOA and five of the six households agree to using it as an unofficial dog park, why not take the matter to the HOA governing board? See if you can get HOA approval to use the space for this purpose.

Yep. That's the right course of action. Just bully the new neighbor so you can "technically" break the law at your "unofficial" dog park. Why not just build a meth lab there if that's what the majority of the households want. What happens when some of the neighbors move out and non dog owners move in. Do you have to change it back?

Not a good option in my opinion.

I think it's a great idea. It's what HOAs are for - the owners get to decide how they want to use the common space. If the new owner doesn't like it they don't have to go down there or they can move elsewhere. Since it's private land, there would be no violation of the law. You're allowed to let your dog run loose on private property whereas it's illegal to have a meth lab no matter where you build it.

I don't know what so many people are bashing OP. I think there's a lot of sock puppeting going on. And, I'm not even a dog owner.

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Anonymous wrote:13:29 poster again. If the space is owned by the HOA and five of the six households agree to using it as an unofficial dog park, why not take the matter to the HOA governing board? See if you can get HOA approval to use the space for this purpose.

Yep. That's the right course of action. Just bully the new neighbor so you can "technically" break the law at your "unofficial" dog park. Why not just build a meth lab there if that's what the majority of the households want. What happens when some of the neighbors move out and non dog owners move in. Do you have to change it back?

Not a good option in my opinion.

Actually, this would not even be "technically" breaking the law. It is private land, so if the HOA agrees to its use in this fashion then it is fine. It is the same as if you had your dog in your own yard. You wouldn't have to change it back if the houses sold to new owners because the change would be to the HOA bylaws and anyone purchasing a house is agreeing to the rules. This seems like a good route, OP. Make the one neighbor who doesn't want to use the land in this manner stand up in front of the HOA board and plead her case just as you would be doing.

Anonymous wrote:OP, please be sensitive to the fact that not everyone likes dogs for a variety of reasons. This is a perfectly legitimate opinion that is not necessarily symptomatic of any kind of mental deficiency (as you suggest by calling it a phobia).

It's your legal and ethical responsibility to have your animal under firm control in public places so you can guarantee other people won't have to have any kind of physical contact with it if they don't want this.

Just because no one objected before doesn't mean the occasional objector is out of line.

+1; well said.

I guess I'm different than most folks here, because I think some laws are a little excessive, and think it's ok to ignore some of them. Healthy dogs need a chance to be free, and this seems like a great setup. OP, I hope you're able to work something out. Maybe it might be a good idea to meet with the other 4 dog-owning neighbors and come up with a strategy for approaching the new neighbor. Pick the one who is most ingratiating (guessing this isn't you!) and hope for the best. Good luck.

Anonymous wrote:OPis the one who needs to be on a leash.

LOVE IT!

Anonymous wrote:13:29 poster again. If the space is owned by the HOA and five of the six households agree to using it as an unofficial dog park, why not take the matter to the HOA governing board? See if you can get HOA approval to use the space for this purpose.

Yep. That's the right course of action. Just bully the new neighbor so you can "technically" break the law at your "unofficial" dog park. Why not just build a meth lab there if that's what the majority of the households want. What happens when some of the neighbors move out and non dog owners move in. Do you have to change it back?

Not a good option in my opinion.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, did you get out today? You've been monitoring this topic since morning. Go out and play with your dogs. Go along now.

I know! I'm stuck here waiting for client. I want to go home!!!

Are you like a prostitute or something?

13:29 poster again. If the space is owned by the HOA and five of the six households agree to using it as an unofficial dog park, why not take the matter to the HOA governing board? See if you can get HOA approval to use the space for this purpose.

Anonymous wrote:OP, did you get out today? You've been monitoring this topic since morning. Go out and play with your dogs. Go along now.

I know! I'm stuck here waiting for client. I want to go home!!!

Anonymous wrote:OP, would anyone be using this wooded space if not for the dog owners and their kids? Would there be any gatherings taking place at all if the dogs couldn't be off leash? How secluded is the area? Is it a worry that delinquent teens and vagrants would use the space if not being visited daily by dogs and owners? Sometimes dogs off leash are the least of a neighborhoods problems.

OP here. No, no one would use the space since it is really only accessible by our five dog/kid houses and one scared/neighbor/kid house. It's in a bowl type of area that is a clearing with trees on all sides going up to the houses, which sit up above the bowl above the trees. I doubt that many of the neighbors even know it is there since it is not visible from the street. That is why we have been so happy using it. It is owned by the HOA, but they won't pay to mow it, so we have been taking turns mowing it since three summers ago.

OP, did you get out today? You've been monitoring this topic since morning. Go out and play with your dogs. Go along now.

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Anonymous wrote:I know you OP and I am familiar with the incident. You have quite a reputation in the community. This is not the first incident of this type. The way you raise your children leaves a lot to desire too.

Stop your costant complaining and attacking people, or please move away.

Busted again, OP!

Do tell!

OP here. So you know me do you? Describe my dogs.