Anonymous
09/28/2011 07:18
Subject: Re:Financial aid "dried up"
All children have something special to offer to their schools...
Nonsense, that's why there is the thin letter (rejection).
Some kids have more to offer than others.
The number of places is not infinite!
Anonymous
09/28/2011 06:26
Subject: Re:Financial aid "dried up"
Anonymous wrote:
Let's be clear about philanthropy please. If someone donates a "4-figure" sum and they chose to do so even though it "hurts," that's philanthropy. If someone donates $10 and it "hurts," that's philanthropy. Philanthropy is about choosing to donate even though it means you might have to "do without" as a result. I, for one, respect that FAR more than the 3rd generation lay-about who writes a check from the family trust and looks around for approval for his "generous" gift.
ahhh
the widows mite!!!
remember the sermon about giving to those who cannot give you any benefit in return.
Like instead of giving to your private, you instead write that check to the inner city slum school
Or does anyone remember the sermon about giving and not tooting your horn, i.e. do not let your left hand know what your wright hand is doing. i.e. do it in secret, etc etc
Anonymous
09/27/2011 13:13
Subject: Financial aid "dried up"
13:10 Well said. Enough said.
Anonymous
09/27/2011 13:10
Subject: Re:Financial aid "dried up"
Anonymous wrote:I don't think it is as black and white as some make it out to be. The avg financial aid grant at most schools is between $10-15K. That still leaves ~$15-20K tuition responsibility for parents. To achieve "socio-economic" diversity, the grants would have to be a lot larger for a family of three or four making less than $100K to send kids to private schools. In case some of you forgot, $15-20K is a lot of money for the kind of people financial aid programs were originally supposed to help.
What is the answer? Do you offer larger grants to one or two people or smaller grants to 20 people? How many low income families can really afford $15K? Achieving socio-economic diversity also includes incorporating middle class families into the mix because, let's face it, a lot of middle class families can afford to pay $15-$20K/child but can not afford $30K/child.
Private school tuition has risen ~38-40% in the last five years. With the excpetion of the truly wealthy and those professions that rake in six figure bonuses, other salaries have not risen proportionately to that level. I think this is why more middle class families are making a plea for financial aid. Another thing to consider is the socialization and assimilation required for poor children who otherwise wouldn't be able to attend private school but for financial aid. How many of you so-called "full-freighters" are willing to help that FAMILY become a part of the school? The children to whom you are trying to funnel your financial aid dollars have way more problems than their parents' lack of resources. In some cases, these children live in homes where there is no food, no lights, no clothes, no healthcare, etc... Most of you complaining about helping other people send their children to private school have healthy doses of wealth insecurity and begrude anyone needing help. You're on here bragging about your 4-figure or mid 4-figure annual fund donations when really... the truly wealthy donors contribute homes, private jets, $30K+ and signifcantly more to the annual fund and auction to help those less fortunate. They also build fields and buildings to offset the operating costs of the school. You 4-figure braggards will never know true philanthropy and for that... you hate on those who seek assistance and castigate them for not sacrificing (by your definition).
Let's be clear about philanthropy please. If someone donates a "4-figure" sum and they chose to do so even though it "hurts," that's philanthropy. If someone donates $10 and it "hurts," that's philanthropy. Philanthropy is about choosing to donate even though it means you might have to "do without" as a result. I, for one, respect that FAR more than the 3rd generation lay-about who writes a check from the family trust and looks around for approval for his "generous" gift.
Anonymous
09/27/2011 13:07
Subject: Re:Financial aid "dried up"
I have worked on my school's fundraiser. I know that investments have been hit hard in the last few years. Even families who had traditionally donated "BIG" money are reevaluating their contributions. I would be careful about telling those $5G donators to keep their money. There are are lot more in that category than there are in the $30G category. I think that the point one of the early posters was trying to make is that everyone seems to one a piece of the pie, in higher taxes for higher wage earners and contributions for tuition assistance. Everyone (even the uber-wealthy) places limits on how much they donate to charity. When expenses go up in one category, expenditures go down in another. THAT is economic reality. You really can't have it both ways. As a fundraiser, I thank every parent who makes ANY contribution and would never suggest that anyone keep their contribution or belittle anyone by suggesting that he/she sacrifices his/her hard-earned cash for name recognition. People are free to choose how to spend their charitable dollars. Some may feel it is more appropriate to donate to a shelter or food bank than a private school. I either event, a simple "Thank you" is always appropriate.
Anonymous
09/27/2011 12:24
Subject: Financial aid "dried up"
Anonymous wrote:My kids have been at a private for 8 years. I have never seen anyone donate a jet or a home to the school. Not saying it doesn't happen somewhere, I have just never seen it.
BTW, most of do not donate to see our names in a catalog.
They donate those items for the auction at our school. I agree with your last sentence.
Anonymous
09/27/2011 12:22
Subject: Re:Financial aid "dried up"
Anonymous wrote:If all of the "dolts" withheld their contributions, you wouldn't be at your precious private next year. There are enough family trusts to fund all of the scholarships. BTWl, those of us who make our mid 4 figure contributions to scholarship funds are also making contributions to the auctions. That great financial sucking sound never ends.
How do you know where I would be next year? Thankfully, I don't rely on mean-spirited people like you to send my children to private school. My name is probably right next to yours on the contribution list so please stop making assumptions.
Anonymous
09/27/2011 12:21
Subject: Financial aid "dried up"
My kids have been at a private for 8 years. I have never seen anyone donate a jet or a home to the school. Not saying it doesn't happen somewhere, I have just never seen it.
BTW, most of do not donate to see our names in a catalog.
BTW, most of do not donate to see our names in a catalog.
Anonymous
09/27/2011 12:16
Subject: Re:Financial aid "dried up"
If all of the "dolts" withheld their contributions, you wouldn't be at your precious private next year. There are enough family trusts to fund all of the scholarships. BTWl, those of us who make our mid 4 figure contributions to scholarship funds are also making contributions to the auctions. That great financial sucking sound never ends.
Anonymous
09/27/2011 12:08
Subject: Financial aid "dried up"
Anonymous wrote:How many aid recipients are call for higher taxes on the "rich." I have always give mid 4 figure contributions to my school, but it looks like my taxes are going up and that money has to come from somewhere. Look for less aid in the future.
Keep your money. That fact that you are withholding your annual fund contribution as a punitive action only means that you give the money to get your name mentioned in the Auction catalog and in the annual fund donation newsletter; not because you want to. Schools fully understand that there are people like you in the community and overall they don't count on your support year-to-year because it is based on your income not based on funds from a family foundation or a trust that immune from "higher taxes on the rich". Dolt!
Anonymous
09/27/2011 12:03
Subject: Re:Financial aid "dried up"
I don't think it is as black and white as some make it out to be. The avg financial aid grant at most schools is between $10-15K. That still leaves ~$15-20K tuition responsibility for parents. To achieve "socio-economic" diversity, the grants would have to be a lot larger for a family of three or four making less than $100K to send kids to private schools. In case some of you forgot, $15-20K is a lot of money for the kind of people financial aid programs were originally supposed to help.
What is the answer? Do you offer larger grants to one or two people or smaller grants to 20 people? How many low income families can really afford $15K? Achieving socio-economic diversity also includes incorporating middle class families into the mix because, let's face it, a lot of middle class families can afford to pay $15-$20K/child but can not afford $30K/child.
Private school tuition has risen ~38-40% in the last five years. With the excpetion of the truly wealthy and those professions that rake in six figure bonuses, other salaries have not risen proportionately to that level. I think this is why more middle class families are making a plea for financial aid. Another thing to consider is the socialization and assimilation required for poor children who otherwise wouldn't be able to attend private school but for financial aid. How many of you so-called "full-freighters" are willing to help that FAMILY become a part of the school? The children to whom you are trying to funnel your financial aid dollars have way more problems than their parents' lack of resources. In some cases, these children live in homes where there is no food, no lights, no clothes, no healthcare, etc... Most of you complaining about helping other people send their children to private school have healthy doses of wealth insecurity and begrude anyone needing help. You're on here bragging about your 4-figure or mid 4-figure annual fund donations when really... the truly wealthy donors contribute homes, private jets, $30K+ and signifcantly more to the annual fund and auction to help those less fortunate. They also build fields and buildings to offset the operating costs of the school. You 4-figure braggards will never know true philanthropy and for that... you hate on those who seek assistance and castigate them for not sacrificing (by your definition).
What is the answer? Do you offer larger grants to one or two people or smaller grants to 20 people? How many low income families can really afford $15K? Achieving socio-economic diversity also includes incorporating middle class families into the mix because, let's face it, a lot of middle class families can afford to pay $15-$20K/child but can not afford $30K/child.
Private school tuition has risen ~38-40% in the last five years. With the excpetion of the truly wealthy and those professions that rake in six figure bonuses, other salaries have not risen proportionately to that level. I think this is why more middle class families are making a plea for financial aid. Another thing to consider is the socialization and assimilation required for poor children who otherwise wouldn't be able to attend private school but for financial aid. How many of you so-called "full-freighters" are willing to help that FAMILY become a part of the school? The children to whom you are trying to funnel your financial aid dollars have way more problems than their parents' lack of resources. In some cases, these children live in homes where there is no food, no lights, no clothes, no healthcare, etc... Most of you complaining about helping other people send their children to private school have healthy doses of wealth insecurity and begrude anyone needing help. You're on here bragging about your 4-figure or mid 4-figure annual fund donations when really... the truly wealthy donors contribute homes, private jets, $30K+ and signifcantly more to the annual fund and auction to help those less fortunate. They also build fields and buildings to offset the operating costs of the school. You 4-figure braggards will never know true philanthropy and for that... you hate on those who seek assistance and castigate them for not sacrificing (by your definition).
Anonymous
09/27/2011 11:44
Subject: Financial aid "dried up"
How many aid recipients are call for higher taxes on the "rich." I have always give mid 4 figure contributions to my school, but it looks like my taxes are going up and that money has to come from somewhere. Look for less aid in the future.
Anonymous
09/27/2011 11:24
Subject: Financial aid "dried up"
Don't forget that some schools have tried to offer financial aid to cover a family's sudden change in financial circumstances. We were in that three years ago, when one of us suddenly lost a job and thought we would have to pull our two children. We were paying full tuition, but the school offered us some aid so that our kids could stay. Although the aid was not intended as a loan, we paid much of it back as we got back on our feet. I will never forget what the school did.
Anonymous
09/27/2011 11:14
Subject: Financial aid "dried up"
pp 11:01 was just responding to 19:29's harsh comment and throwing it back at him/her.
Anonymous
09/27/2011 11:09
Subject: Re:Financial aid "dried up"
Dream on 11:36........