Anonymous
05/27/2023 19:49
Subject: Will Private school want to redshirt summer bday DS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We are trying to figure out schooling. DS is a June birthday. Will private school admissions want to redshirt a candidate like him? He's very bright and verbal. No issues.
We held back our bright 5-year-old August bday. Baltimore school wanted him to “redshirt” via “prefirst.” We were skeptical and it sounded like a money grab. In hindsight, I am glad we did it.
He is now thriving at age 20.
A couple of things we considered: 1) A friend teaches at a Baltimore HS and told us that in almost all cases he had seen, parents that did as we did were glad they did it, and parents that had sent the kids on ahead wished they had held them back.
2) Do you want one more year at home with your child? He or she will be gone before you know it.
Ours was very bright but on the shy side and looking back, the cohort he would have been if we sent him on ahead was a loud, aggressive group and he would not have done well with them. Kids in his grade one year later were much different, and it worked out very well.
Of course they are going to say that, it would be embarrassing to say otherwise.
Your son would have thrived now at 20 regardless. Heavy on the insincerity, you are.
??
That’s just one of DCUMs insane anti-redshirt posters. Jeff periodically bans them, see his blog post below as an example. Don’t worry about what they say, they are crazy. They are also apparently math-illiterate.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/weblog/update052423
Anonymous
05/27/2023 19:39
Subject: Will Private school want to redshirt summer bday DS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Beauvoir has brought up retention for our June kindergartener son. They claim impulsiveness/immaturity.. academics aren’t a concern. Many of the boys in his class are six going on seven, however the girls are mostly five or have just turned six.
Those older kids aren't more mature, just older. I'd worry about a school that doesn't have age appropriate expectations and holds back kids based off their needs.
You can always figure out who the youngest are. They stand out in behavior and the stories your child brings home. And based on my experience and what I've seen, it is absolutely immaturity and lack of self-regulation. Storming away from the class during assemblies, snatching away from teachers, hitting/punching other students, yelling when they don't get their way, not being able to engage appropriately on the carpet. And that's only what I've seen on the rare occasion I'm in the class for no more than 30 min at a time. They may have the academics, but they don't know how to be in a classroom at all and it shows even when lined up to the younger boys who have February-May birthdays... so it's probably a personality/developmental thing.
100% - PP's "30 minute observations" do not reflect my experience at all.
Mine has never ever done those things. It's generally the older kids who are bored or have other issues going on that aren't getting the help they need. Mine was taught in preschool how to behave. These schools sound terrible if they aren't preparing these kids properly or taking in the wrong kids.
Anonymous
05/27/2023 15:53
Subject: Will Private school want to redshirt summer bday DS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We are trying to figure out schooling. DS is a June birthday. Will private school admissions want to redshirt a candidate like him? He's very bright and verbal. No issues.
We held back our bright 5-year-old August bday. Baltimore school wanted him to “redshirt” via “prefirst.” We were skeptical and it sounded like a money grab. In hindsight, I am glad we did it.
He is now thriving at age 20.
A couple of things we considered: 1) A friend teaches at a Baltimore HS and told us that in almost all cases he had seen, parents that did as we did were glad they did it, and parents that had sent the kids on ahead wished they had held them back.
2) Do you want one more year at home with your child? He or she will be gone before you know it.
Ours was very bright but on the shy side and looking back, the cohort he would have been if we sent him on ahead was a loud, aggressive group and he would not have done well with them. Kids in his grade one year later were much different, and it worked out very well.
Of course they are going to say that, it would be embarrassing to say otherwise.
Your son would have thrived now at 20 regardless. Heavy on the insincerity, you are.
??
Anonymous
05/26/2023 08:12
Subject: Will Private school want to redshirt summer bday DS?
Our kid was a September birthday at a private school with a Sept 1 cutoff. Our public school system had a Sept 30 cutoff. He ended up being involuntarily red-shirted compared to his public school peers.
He started off at the older end of the class age spectrum, and I wasn't thrilled.
He's graduated from university now, so I'm looking back, and it doesn't seem such a big thing as it did when he was 3.
His cohort was affected by covid, and many of his college classmates took a gap year in the middle of their degrees. Some friends had medical issues and took a gap year. Some friends changed majors or degrees and took longer. Regardless, they have forty or more years of work ahead of them, and it matters little whether they start this at 20 or 21 or 22 or 23 or 24.
He started off at the older end of the class age spectrum, and I wasn't thrilled.
He's graduated from university now, so I'm looking back, and it doesn't seem such a big thing as it did when he was 3.
His cohort was affected by covid, and many of his college classmates took a gap year in the middle of their degrees. Some friends had medical issues and took a gap year. Some friends changed majors or degrees and took longer. Regardless, they have forty or more years of work ahead of them, and it matters little whether they start this at 20 or 21 or 22 or 23 or 24.
Anonymous
05/26/2023 08:04
Subject: Re:Will Private school want to redshirt summer bday DS?
Anonymous wrote:I have a June birthday DD in private not redshirted. She has several friends younger than her so it’s definitely not a thing at our school. They are running a business and want your money. If you don’t want to redshirt they won’t make you.
If they have enough applicants, they can just reject your summer child if they think a young child will be more work.
Anonymous
05/25/2023 19:15
Subject: Will Private school want to redshirt summer bday DS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Beauvoir has brought up retention for our June kindergartener son. They claim impulsiveness/immaturity.. academics aren’t a concern. Many of the boys in his class are six going on seven, however the girls are mostly five or have just turned six.
Those older kids aren't more mature, just older. I'd worry about a school that doesn't have age appropriate expectations and holds back kids based off their needs.
You can always figure out who the youngest are. They stand out in behavior and the stories your child brings home. And based on my experience and what I've seen, it is absolutely immaturity and lack of self-regulation. Storming away from the class during assemblies, snatching away from teachers, hitting/punching other students, yelling when they don't get their way, not being able to engage appropriately on the carpet. And that's only what I've seen on the rare occasion I'm in the class for no more than 30 min at a time. They may have the academics, but they don't know how to be in a classroom at all and it shows even when lined up to the younger boys who have February-May birthdays... so it's probably a personality/developmental thing.
Wrong, the older ones cause the trouble.
You can't tell someone what their experience is or say their experience is wrong. Just speak on your own.
Anonymous
05/25/2023 11:16
Subject: Will Private school want to redshirt summer bday DS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We are trying to figure out schooling. DS is a June birthday. Will private school admissions want to redshirt a candidate like him? He's very bright and verbal. No issues.
We held back our bright 5-year-old August bday. Baltimore school wanted him to “redshirt” via “prefirst.” We were skeptical and it sounded like a money grab. In hindsight, I am glad we did it.
He is now thriving at age 20.
A couple of things we considered: 1) A friend teaches at a Baltimore HS and told us that in almost all cases he had seen, parents that did as we did were glad they did it, and parents that had sent the kids on ahead wished they had held them back.
2) Do you want one more year at home with your child? He or she will be gone before you know it.
Ours was very bright but on the shy side and looking back, the cohort he would have been if we sent him on ahead was a loud, aggressive group and he would not have done well with them. Kids in his grade one year later were much different, and it worked out very well.
Of course they are going to say that, it would be embarrassing to say otherwise.
Your son would have thrived now at 20 regardless. Heavy on the insincerity, you are.
Anonymous
05/25/2023 11:13
Subject: Will Private school want to redshirt summer bday DS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Beauvoir has brought up retention for our June kindergartener son. They claim impulsiveness/immaturity.. academics aren’t a concern. Many of the boys in his class are six going on seven, however the girls are mostly five or have just turned six.
Those older kids aren't more mature, just older. I'd worry about a school that doesn't have age appropriate expectations and holds back kids based off their needs.
You can always figure out who the youngest are. They stand out in behavior and the stories your child brings home. And based on my experience and what I've seen, it is absolutely immaturity and lack of self-regulation. Storming away from the class during assemblies, snatching away from teachers, hitting/punching other students, yelling when they don't get their way, not being able to engage appropriately on the carpet. And that's only what I've seen on the rare occasion I'm in the class for no more than 30 min at a time. They may have the academics, but they don't know how to be in a classroom at all and it shows even when lined up to the younger boys who have February-May birthdays... so it's probably a personality/developmental thing.
Wrong, the older ones cause the trouble.
Anonymous
05/25/2023 11:11
Subject: Re:Will Private school want to redshirt summer bday DS?
Nope. Attended several private schools in DC and none recommended it or even brought it up for August birthday. One was a top boys school.
In fact, I brought it up at each school, and was told it something along the lines of it was not an issue or something to consider.
In fact, I brought it up at each school, and was told it something along the lines of it was not an issue or something to consider.
Anonymous
05/25/2023 11:07
Subject: Will Private school want to redshirt summer bday DS?
Anonymous wrote:We are trying to figure out schooling. DS is a June birthday. Will private school admissions want to redshirt a candidate like him? He's very bright and verbal. No issues.
We held back our bright 5-year-old August bday. Baltimore school wanted him to “redshirt” via “prefirst.” We were skeptical and it sounded like a money grab. In hindsight, I am glad we did it.
He is now thriving at age 20.
A couple of things we considered: 1) A friend teaches at a Baltimore HS and told us that in almost all cases he had seen, parents that did as we did were glad they did it, and parents that had sent the kids on ahead wished they had held them back.
2) Do you want one more year at home with your child? He or she will be gone before you know it.
Ours was very bright but on the shy side and looking back, the cohort he would have been if we sent him on ahead was a loud, aggressive group and he would not have done well with them. Kids in his grade one year later were much different, and it worked out very well.
Anonymous
05/25/2023 08:39
Subject: Will Private school want to redshirt summer bday DS?
Anonymous wrote:We are trying to figure out schooling. DS is a June birthday. Will private school admissions want to redshirt a candidate like him? He's very bright and verbal. No issues.
Its up to you.
Anonymous
05/24/2023 21:00
Subject: Will Private school want to redshirt summer bday DS?
My son and his best friend have late summer birthdays. They both started kindergarten on time, and they were both also the craziest in their class. My son handled the academics easily, but his friend couldn't. My kid continued on to first grade. His friend repeated K - and this time, the academics clicked.
For what it's worth, in terms of behavior, they continue to be the class nutjobs, even though one is the youngest in his class, and the other is the oldest in his.
For what it's worth, in terms of behavior, they continue to be the class nutjobs, even though one is the youngest in his class, and the other is the oldest in his.
Anonymous
05/23/2023 22:29
Subject: Will Private school want to redshirt summer bday DS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We applied to Baltimore privates from out of state and our summer and early fall birthday boys were not asked to repeat their grade at the schools they where were accepted. (coming in late elementary school)
Then your kids will be a year to 18 months younger than their classmates. Because the Baltimore private schools definitely hold back all summer and some spring birthdays.
So, some of these kids are 20 if they are held back and do two years of first grade. Ever consider the issue is the school and not the child?
Is math not your thing?
Anonymous
05/23/2023 21:12
Subject: Will Private school want to redshirt summer bday DS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Beauvoir has brought up retention for our June kindergartener son. They claim impulsiveness/immaturity.. academics aren’t a concern. Many of the boys in his class are six going on seven, however the girls are mostly five or have just turned six.
Those older kids aren't more mature, just older. I'd worry about a school that doesn't have age appropriate expectations and holds back kids based off their needs.
You can always figure out who the youngest are. They stand out in behavior and the stories your child brings home. And based on my experience and what I've seen, it is absolutely immaturity and lack of self-regulation. Storming away from the class during assemblies, snatching away from teachers, hitting/punching other students, yelling when they don't get their way, not being able to engage appropriately on the carpet. And that's only what I've seen on the rare occasion I'm in the class for no more than 30 min at a time. They may have the academics, but they don't know how to be in a classroom at all and it shows even when lined up to the younger boys who have February-May birthdays... so it's probably a personality/developmental thing.
What the heck?
For how many years are kids supposedly doing that?
And if it’s beyond grade 2 or 3 someone needs a neuropsych.
Kids don't do this in DC's pre-k. What the heck kind of schools are you paying money for where the choice is to retain kids or have them run wild??
It does not make any sense.