Anonymous wrote: columbia, northwestern. strongest across the board academically.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:agree on Williams it’s closer peer school to HYPSM than the lower tier ivies Duke JHU Northwestern
Not at all true. Peer school is determined by peer group.
Williams (and Amherst) peer group from pre-Test optional shows 25th%ile-75%ile 1420-1540, or estimated median around 1480. That is lower than Vanderbilt was (1470-1570) though with their TO preference currently they may never get back to the strong peer group they once were.
Ivies:
25-75th%ile
Harvard 1460-1580
Penn. 1460-1570
Yale. 1470-1560
Princetn 1460-1560
Brown 1440-1560
Dartm 1430-1550
Cornell 1410-1530
Columbia: never released it pre-TO. They knew they were lower than most ivies, maybe the lowest.
Chicago: TO for a long time, who knows where they stand but likely on par with lower ivies.
Duke 1480-1560 on par with the top-4 ivies
Hopkins 1470-1550 middle of the ivies
NorthW 1430-1540 on par with bottom 2 ivies
WashU. 1480-1560 on par with ivies
CMU: 1460-1560 ""
Rice: 1460-1570 ""
ND 1400-1540
GrgTwn 1380-1530
In other words Williams has a peer group better than Cornell., similar to Dartmouth and could be better than Columbia.
Below many in the Top15-20, no way Top 10.
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Next level delusional citing test score medians from schools with 35 - 45% Test Optional admits. Can't make it up.
PP explicitly stated that the numbers were "pre-Test optional." Please read before respond.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you want international prestige, go to Harvard and call it a year. Otherwise, you’re fine.
+1, no one cares about American schools other than Harvard. H bomb just hits harder than other schools and that’s fine- does it mean Harvard is the best school in the US? Of course not. It just means it has the most cultural cache
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:agree on Williams it’s closer peer school to HYPSM than the lower tier ivies Duke JHU Northwestern
Not at all true. Peer school is determined by peer group.
Williams (and Amherst) peer group from pre-Test optional shows 25th%ile-75%ile 1420-1540, or estimated median around 1480. That is lower than Vanderbilt was (1470-1570) though with their TO preference currently they may never get back to the strong peer group they once were.
Ivies:
25-75th%ile
Harvard 1460-1580
Penn. 1460-1570
Yale. 1470-1560
Princetn 1460-1560
Brown 1440-1560
Dartm 1430-1550
Cornell 1410-1530
Columbia: never released it pre-TO. They knew they were lower than most ivies, maybe the lowest.
Chicago: TO for a long time, who knows where they stand but likely on par with lower ivies.
Duke 1480-1560 on par with the top-4 ivies
Hopkins 1470-1550 middle of the ivies
NorthW 1430-1540 on par with bottom 2 ivies
WashU. 1480-1560 on par with ivies
CMU: 1460-1560 ""
Rice: 1460-1570 ""
ND 1400-1540
GrgTwn 1380-1530
In other words Williams has a peer group better than Cornell., similar to Dartmouth and could be better than Columbia.
Below many in the Top15-20, no way Top 10.
.
Next level delusional citing test score medians from schools with 35 - 45% Test Optional admits. Can't make it up.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:agree on Williams it’s closer peer school to HYPSM than the lower tier ivies Duke JHU Northwestern
Not at all true. Peer school is determined by peer group.
Williams (and Amherst) peer group from pre-Test optional shows 25th%ile-75%ile 1420-1540, or estimated median around 1480. That is lower than Vanderbilt was (1470-1570) though with their TO preference currently they may never get back to the strong peer group they once were.
Ivies:
25-75th%ile
Harvard 1460-1580
Penn. 1460-1570
Yale. 1470-1560
Princetn 1460-1560
Brown 1440-1560
Dartm 1430-1550
Cornell 1410-1530
Columbia: never released it pre-TO. They knew they were lower than most ivies, maybe the lowest.
Chicago: TO for a long time, who knows where they stand but likely on par with lower ivies.
Duke 1480-1560 on par with the top-4 ivies
Hopkins 1470-1550 middle of the ivies
NorthW 1430-1540 on par with bottom 2 ivies
WashU. 1480-1560 on par with ivies
CMU: 1460-1560 ""
Rice: 1460-1570 ""
ND 1400-1540
GrgTwn 1380-1530
In other words Williams has a peer group better than Cornell., similar to Dartmouth and could be better than Columbia.
Below many in the Top15-20, no way Top 10.
.
Where is this crap coming from? All the numbers are wrong! Hopkins has a 75 percentile of 1570, for example.
Is that from 2026 because they only became test required this cycle. Otherwise, that's not an accurate depiction of their 75 percentile.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:agree on Williams it’s closer peer school to HYPSM than the lower tier ivies Duke JHU Northwestern
Not at all true. Peer school is determined by peer group.
Williams (and Amherst) peer group from pre-Test optional shows 25th%ile-75%ile 1420-1540, or estimated median around 1480. That is lower than Vanderbilt was (1470-1570) though with their TO preference currently they may never get back to the strong peer group they once were.
Ivies:
25-75th%ile
Harvard 1460-1580
Penn. 1460-1570
Yale. 1470-1560
Princetn 1460-1560
Brown 1440-1560
Dartm 1430-1550
Cornell 1410-1530
Columbia: never released it pre-TO. They knew they were lower than most ivies, maybe the lowest.
Chicago: TO for a long time, who knows where they stand but likely on par with lower ivies.
Duke 1480-1560 on par with the top-4 ivies
Hopkins 1470-1550 middle of the ivies
NorthW 1430-1540 on par with bottom 2 ivies
WashU. 1480-1560 on par with ivies
CMU: 1460-1560 ""
Rice: 1460-1570 ""
ND 1400-1540
GrgTwn 1380-1530
In other words Williams has a peer group better than Cornell., similar to Dartmouth and could be better than Columbia.
Below many in the Top15-20, no way Top 10.
.
Where is this crap coming from? All the numbers are wrong! Hopkins has a 75 percentile of 1570, for example.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:agree on Williams it’s closer peer school to HYPSM than the lower tier ivies Duke JHU Northwestern
Not at all true. Peer school is determined by peer group.
Williams (and Amherst) peer group from pre-Test optional shows 25th%ile-75%ile 1420-1540, or estimated median around 1480. That is lower than Vanderbilt was (1470-1570) though with their TO preference currently they may never get back to the strong peer group they once were.
Ivies:
25-75th%ile
Harvard 1460-1580
Penn. 1460-1570
Yale. 1470-1560
Princetn 1460-1560
Brown 1440-1560
Dartm 1430-1550
Cornell 1410-1530
Columbia: never released it pre-TO. They knew they were lower than most ivies, maybe the lowest.
Chicago: TO for a long time, who knows where they stand but likely on par with lower ivies.
Duke 1480-1560 on par with the top-4 ivies
Hopkins 1470-1550 middle of the ivies
NorthW 1430-1540 on par with bottom 2 ivies
WashU. 1480-1560 on par with ivies
CMU: 1460-1560 ""
Rice: 1460-1570 ""
ND 1400-1540
GrgTwn 1380-1530
In other words Williams has a peer group better than Cornell., similar to Dartmouth and could be better than Columbia.
Below many in the Top15-20, no way Top 10.
.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:agree on Williams it’s closer peer school to HYPSM than the lower tier ivies Duke JHU Northwestern
Not at all true. Peer school is determined by peer group.
Williams (and Amherst) peer group from pre-Test optional shows 25th%ile-75%ile 1420-1540, or estimated median around 1480. That is lower than Vanderbilt was (1470-1570) though with their TO preference currently they may never get back to the strong peer group they once were.
Ivies:
25-75th%ile
Harvard 1460-1580
Penn. 1460-1570
Yale. 1470-1560
Princetn 1460-1560
Brown 1440-1560
Dartm 1430-1550
Cornell 1410-1530
Columbia: never released it pre-TO. They knew they were lower than most ivies, maybe the lowest.
Chicago: TO for a long time, who knows where they stand but likely on par with lower ivies.
Duke 1480-1560 on par with the top-4 ivies
Hopkins 1470-1550 middle of the ivies
NorthW 1430-1540 on par with bottom 2 ivies
WashU. 1480-1560 on par with ivies
CMU: 1460-1560 ""
Rice: 1460-1570 ""
ND 1400-1540
GrgTwn 1380-1530
In other words Williams has a peer group better than Cornell., similar to Dartmouth and could be better than Columbia.
Below many in the Top15-20, no way Top 10.
.
Anonymous wrote:agree on Williams it’s closer peer school to HYPSM than the lower tier ivies Duke JHU Northwestern
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:California. Wharton, Columbia, Duke for Wall Street, in that order. Hopkins, Penn, Duke, Northwestern for premed, in that order. Penn, Columbia, Northwestern for engineering, in that order.
Yet USNWR 2026 Top Engineering Programs
17. Northwestern
21. Columbia (tie)
21. Penn (tie)
yikes
Engineering rankings are not based on research output, faculty quality, rigor of the undergrad classes or quality of phD the students get admitted to, or the reputation by TOP engineering companies. In other words, the real factors that determine the quality of a program
Anonymous wrote:Duke = Williams > Penn > JHU = Northwestern > Penn State Altoona
Anonymous wrote:Duke = Williams > Penn > JHU = Northwestern > Penn State Altoona
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:California. Wharton, Columbia, Duke for Wall Street, in that order. Hopkins, Penn, Duke, Northwestern for premed, in that order. Penn, Columbia, Northwestern for engineering, in that order.
Yet USNWR 2026 Top Engineering Programs
17. Northwestern
21. Columbia (tie)
21. Penn (tie)
yikes