Are you able to motivate to exercise on your own? I see personal trainers as a waste. However, if you won't get yourself moving, the endorphins are addictive and so great for mental health i would say go with personal trainer.

Otherwise just exercise more on your own and get the housekeeper.

Go buy some self-help books for therapy.

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Anonymous wrote:My therapist changed my life. But that's because I knew exactly what my problem was and I have great judgment and was able to find (after a lot of effort) a therapist who I knew was likely to be able to help me.

Most therapists are useless, so unless you are self aware and have generally have good judgment, you will be wasting your money going to therapy. The other option is if you are loaded and can afford an out of network psychotherapist who will charge $400 an hour. If you do not feel like you have any of these three things, you are much better off getting a house cleaner and starting to exercise and talking to Claude (ask for recommendations for books that by renowned psychotherapists).

Good god people, STOP recommending AI chat bots to people in place of therapy. They are not therapists. They have actively harmed people using their products as therapy. Use better help or some telehealth service your insurance provides if you’re looking for cheap and easy therapy.

DP. The PP didn't recommend using AI for therapy, she recommended asking AI to recommend books by renowned psychotherapists. That is something an AI chatbot would be good at, and could also probably summarize the contents and key takeaways, as well as any criticism of those takeaways.

Most therapists are not very good. The PP is right that in order to get a good therapist you either need a lot of money for someone who doesn't take insurance and is selective about clients, or the time/energy/savvy to screen every in-network therapist you can access to find one who actually fits your therapeutic needs (which means understanding your therapeutic needs as well as a good, skilled therapist would, which is not common). Using whatever telehelath service your insurance provides maybe cheap but is not easy -- that is a good way to get a totally useless therapy who is as likely to make things worse as make them better. Yes, people wh have realized on AI chatbots for therapy have in a couple very rare occasions, committed suicide. Guess how many times that's happened with people under the care of a licenses therapist? I'll give you a hint: it's more than a few.

You’re misreading. They said to talk to Claude instead of therapy but ALSO said to have Claude recommend books. Books are fine for Claude. But it’s dangerous to use a chatbot as a therapist.

I completely agree that there are plenty of bad therapists. I completely disagree that the risk of a bad therapist is similar to the risk of AI. You can spend unlimited time with a chatbot and go into an infinite spiral that can deteriorate your mental health in a way you can’t do with a therapist. The bot just wants you to keep responding. It has no other goals and no other limitations.

I’m not anti AI at all (I literally rep AI companies for a living). But PLEASE do not use it as a therapist.

I am the poster who mentioned talking to Claude. I actually don't believe in using AI for therapy because the real value of therapy lies in the therapeutic relationship, but this is something only a competent therapist can accomplish. Such therapists are very hard to find, so instead of turning to CBT therapists who will give you goals or whatever, some people are better off exploring their issues through books that are typically recommended by top psychotherapists (or maybe even philosophy) and bouncing ideas off Claude. If the OP has severe mental health issues, obviously they should not use an AI.

Don’t bounce mental health ideas off Claude but do use it to find books.

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Anonymous wrote:My therapist changed my life. But that's because I knew exactly what my problem was and I have great judgment and was able to find (after a lot of effort) a therapist who I knew was likely to be able to help me.

Most therapists are useless, so unless you are self aware and have generally have good judgment, you will be wasting your money going to therapy. The other option is if you are loaded and can afford an out of network psychotherapist who will charge $400 an hour. If you do not feel like you have any of these three things, you are much better off getting a house cleaner and starting to exercise and talking to Claude (ask for recommendations for books that by renowned psychotherapists).

Good god people, STOP recommending AI chat bots to people in place of therapy. They are not therapists. They have actively harmed people using their products as therapy. Use better help or some telehealth service your insurance provides if you’re looking for cheap and easy therapy.

DP. The PP didn't recommend using AI for therapy, she recommended asking AI to recommend books by renowned psychotherapists. That is something an AI chatbot would be good at, and could also probably summarize the contents and key takeaways, as well as any criticism of those takeaways.

Most therapists are not very good. The PP is right that in order to get a good therapist you either need a lot of money for someone who doesn't take insurance and is selective about clients, or the time/energy/savvy to screen every in-network therapist you can access to find one who actually fits your therapeutic needs (which means understanding your therapeutic needs as well as a good, skilled therapist would, which is not common). Using whatever telehelath service your insurance provides maybe cheap but is not easy -- that is a good way to get a totally useless therapy who is as likely to make things worse as make them better. Yes, people wh have realized on AI chatbots for therapy have in a couple very rare occasions, committed suicide. Guess how many times that's happened with people under the care of a licenses therapist? I'll give you a hint: it's more than a few.

You’re misreading. They said to talk to Claude instead of therapy but ALSO said to have Claude recommend books. Books are fine for Claude. But it’s dangerous to use a chatbot as a therapist.

I completely agree that there are plenty of bad therapists. I completely disagree that the risk of a bad therapist is similar to the risk of AI. You can spend unlimited time with a chatbot and go into an infinite spiral that can deteriorate your mental health in a way you can’t do with a therapist. The bot just wants you to keep responding. It has no other goals and no other limitations.

I’m not anti AI at all (I literally rep AI companies for a living). But PLEASE do not use it as a therapist.

I am the poster who mentioned talking to Claude. I actually don't believe in using AI for therapy because the real value of therapy lies in the therapeutic relationship, but this is something only a competent therapist can accomplish. Such therapists are very hard to find, so instead of turning to CBT therapists who will give you goals or whatever, some people are better off exploring their issues through books that are typically recommended by top psychotherapists (or maybe even philosophy) and bouncing ideas off Claude. If the OP has severe mental health issues, obviously they should not use an AI.

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Anonymous wrote:My therapist changed my life. But that's because I knew exactly what my problem was and I have great judgment and was able to find (after a lot of effort) a therapist who I knew was likely to be able to help me.

Most therapists are useless, so unless you are self aware and have generally have good judgment, you will be wasting your money going to therapy. The other option is if you are loaded and can afford an out of network psychotherapist who will charge $400 an hour. If you do not feel like you have any of these three things, you are much better off getting a house cleaner and starting to exercise and talking to Claude (ask for recommendations for books that by renowned psychotherapists).

Good god people, STOP recommending AI chat bots to people in place of therapy. They are not therapists. They have actively harmed people using their products as therapy. Use better help or some telehealth service your insurance provides if you’re looking for cheap and easy therapy.

DP. The PP didn't recommend using AI for therapy, she recommended asking AI to recommend books by renowned psychotherapists. That is something an AI chatbot would be good at, and could also probably summarize the contents and key takeaways, as well as any criticism of those takeaways.

Most therapists are not very good. The PP is right that in order to get a good therapist you either need a lot of money for someone who doesn't take insurance and is selective about clients, or the time/energy/savvy to screen every in-network therapist you can access to find one who actually fits your therapeutic needs (which means understanding your therapeutic needs as well as a good, skilled therapist would, which is not common). Using whatever telehelath service your insurance provides maybe cheap but is not easy -- that is a good way to get a totally useless therapy who is as likely to make things worse as make them better. Yes, people wh have realized on AI chatbots for therapy have in a couple very rare occasions, committed suicide. Guess how many times that's happened with people under the care of a licenses therapist? I'll give you a hint: it's more than a few.

You’re misreading. They said to talk to Claude instead of therapy but ALSO said to have Claude recommend books. Books are fine for Claude. But it’s dangerous to use a chatbot as a therapist.

I completely agree that there are plenty of bad therapists. I completely disagree that the risk of a bad therapist is similar to the risk of AI. You can spend unlimited time with a chatbot and go into an infinite spiral that can deteriorate your mental health in a way you can’t do with a therapist. The bot just wants you to keep responding. It has no other goals and no other limitations.

I’m not anti AI at all (I literally rep AI companies for a living). But PLEASE do not use it as a therapist.

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Anonymous wrote:My therapist changed my life. But that's because I knew exactly what my problem was and I have great judgment and was able to find (after a lot of effort) a therapist who I knew was likely to be able to help me.

Most therapists are useless, so unless you are self aware and have generally have good judgment, you will be wasting your money going to therapy. The other option is if you are loaded and can afford an out of network psychotherapist who will charge $400 an hour. If you do not feel like you have any of these three things, you are much better off getting a house cleaner and starting to exercise and talking to Claude (ask for recommendations for books that by renowned psychotherapists).

Good god people, STOP recommending AI chat bots to people in place of therapy. They are not therapists. They have actively harmed people using their products as therapy. Use better help or some telehealth service your insurance provides if you’re looking for cheap and easy therapy.

DP. The PP didn't recommend using AI for therapy, she recommended asking AI to recommend books by renowned psychotherapists. That is something an AI chatbot would be good at, and could also probably summarize the contents and key takeaways, as well as any criticism of those takeaways.

Most therapists are not very good. The PP is right that in order to get a good therapist you either need a lot of money for someone who doesn't take insurance and is selective about clients, or the time/energy/savvy to screen every in-network therapist you can access to find one who actually fits your therapeutic needs (which means understanding your therapeutic needs as well as a good, skilled therapist would, which is not common). Using whatever telehelath service your insurance provides maybe cheap but is not easy -- that is a good way to get a totally useless therapy who is as likely to make things worse as make them better. Yes, people wh have realized on AI chatbots for therapy have in a couple very rare occasions, committed suicide. Guess how many times that's happened with people under the care of a licenses therapist? I'll give you a hint: it's more than a few.

Housecleaning.

Anonymous wrote:My therapist changed my life. But that's because I knew exactly what my problem was and I have great judgment and was able to find (after a lot of effort) a therapist who I knew was likely to be able to help me.

Most therapists are useless, so unless you are self aware and have generally have good judgment, you will be wasting your money going to therapy. The other option is if you are loaded and can afford an out of network psychotherapist who will charge $400 an hour. If you do not feel like you have any of these three things, you are much better off getting a house cleaner and starting to exercise and talking to Claude (ask for recommendations for books that by renowned psychotherapists).

Good god people, STOP recommending AI chat bots to people in place of therapy. They are not therapists. They have actively harmed people using their products as therapy. Use better help or some telehealth service your insurance provides if you’re looking for cheap and easy therapy.

My therapist changed my life. But that's because I knew exactly what my problem was and I have great judgment and was able to find (after a lot of effort) a therapist who I knew was likely to be able to help me.

Most therapists are useless, so unless you are self aware and have generally have good judgment, you will be wasting your money going to therapy. The other option is if you are loaded and can afford an out of network psychotherapist who will charge $400 an hour. If you do not feel like you have any of these three things, you are much better off getting a house cleaner and starting to exercise and talking to Claude (ask for recommendations for books that by renowned psychotherapists).

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Anonymous wrote:It's really sad to me that people who may need therapy haven't found it useful since basically everyone needs therapy

You can’t have it both ways. Either therapy is a valid medical intervention, and as any other medicine related thing it has pros and cons, and, of course, not everyone benefits or it’s a gimmick that “everyone needs” in which case no one really needs it.

That’s not how it works. For example, everyone benefits from exercise, but some need exercise (generally or specific types) to treat specific medical conditions. That doesn’t undercut the value of exercise as a medical intervention or a general good.

Anonymous wrote:It's really sad to me that people who may need therapy haven't found it useful since basically everyone needs therapy

You can’t have it both ways. Either therapy is a valid medical intervention, and as any other medicine related thing it has pros and cons, and, of course, not everyone benefits or it’s a gimmick that “everyone needs” in which case no one really needs it.

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Anonymous wrote:It's really sad to me that people who may need therapy haven't found it useful since basically everyone needs therapy

Which means no one needs therapy. If everyone is crazy, then that's normal and no one is crazy.

If everyone is hungry, then no one needs food.

Housecleaner because any good therapist will tell you to fix easy things like housecleaning before working on complicated things.

Anonymous wrote:It's really sad to me that people who may need therapy haven't found it useful since basically everyone needs therapy

Which means no one needs therapy. If everyone is crazy, then that's normal and no one is crazy.

It's really sad to me that people who may need therapy haven't found it useful since basically everyone needs therapy

Housecleaned