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Anonymous wrote:Better data actually by major:

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/search/fos/?sort=fos_median_earnings:desc&page=0&cip4=1405&cip4_degree=3&school=Georgia%2520Institute%2520of%2520Technology-Main%2520Campus

Georgia tech Median earnings 4 years after graduation: $102k

JHU: $114k
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/search/fos/?sort=fos_median_earnings:desc&page=0&cip4=1405&cip4_degree=3&school=Johns%2520Hopkins%2520University

Interesting. Among all majors and in general GT has it.

Georgia Tech

Graduation Rate
93%
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges: 59%
0%100%Midpoint for 4-yr Schools

Average Annual Cost
$12,116
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges: $20,081
$0
$100,000
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges

Median Earnings
$119,180

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?139755-Georgia-Institute-of-Technology-Main-Campus

Johns Hopkins

Graduation Rate
94%
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges: 59%
0%100%Midpoint for 4-yr Schools

Average Annual Cost
$18,809
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges: $20,081
$0
$100,000
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges

Median Earnings
$117,419
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges: $60,428

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?162928-Johns-Hopkins-University

you should be looking at bme only. Georgia tech is majority CS while JHU is not which causes medians to be higher at tech due to more CS in Faang. It’s not apples to apples

also for CS (which Jhu places well for google where I am at and other fang, median salary is $196k where as it is $150k for tech):

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?162928

go filter by cs major

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Anonymous wrote:Better data actually by major:

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/search/fos/?sort=fos_median_earnings:desc&page=0&cip4=1405&cip4_degree=3&school=Georgia%2520Institute%2520of%2520Technology-Main%2520Campus

Georgia tech Median earnings 4 years after graduation: $102k

JHU: $114k
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/search/fos/?sort=fos_median_earnings:desc&page=0&cip4=1405&cip4_degree=3&school=Johns%2520Hopkins%2520University

Interesting. Among all majors and in general GT has it.

Georgia Tech

Graduation Rate
93%
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges: 59%
0%100%Midpoint for 4-yr Schools

Average Annual Cost
$12,116
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges: $20,081
$0
$100,000
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges

Median Earnings
$119,180

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?139755-Georgia-Institute-of-Technology-Main-Campus

Johns Hopkins

Graduation Rate
94%
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges: 59%
0%100%Midpoint for 4-yr Schools

Average Annual Cost
$18,809
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges: $20,081
$0
$100,000
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges

Median Earnings
$117,419
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges: $60,428

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?162928-Johns-Hopkins-University

you should be looking at bme only. Georgia tech is majority CS while JHU is not which causes medians to be higher at tech due to more CS in Faang. It’s not apples to apples

You are really doing mental gymnastics here. lol. Take the L and move on. Poster just posting stats as they are delivered.

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Anonymous wrote:Better data actually by major:

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/search/fos/?sort=fos_median_earnings:desc&page=0&cip4=1405&cip4_degree=3&school=Georgia%2520Institute%2520of%2520Technology-Main%2520Campus

Georgia tech Median earnings 4 years after graduation: $102k

JHU: $114k
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/search/fos/?sort=fos_median_earnings:desc&page=0&cip4=1405&cip4_degree=3&school=Johns%2520Hopkins%2520University

Interesting. Among all majors and in general GT has it.

Georgia Tech

Graduation Rate
93%
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges: 59%
0%100%Midpoint for 4-yr Schools

Average Annual Cost
$12,116
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges: $20,081
$0
$100,000
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges

Median Earnings
$119,180

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?139755-Georgia-Institute-of-Technology-Main-Campus

Johns Hopkins

Graduation Rate
94%
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges: 59%
0%100%Midpoint for 4-yr Schools

Average Annual Cost
$18,809
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges: $20,081
$0
$100,000
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges

Median Earnings
$117,419
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges: $60,428

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?162928-Johns-Hopkins-University

you should be looking at bme only. Georgia tech is majority CS while JHU is not which causes medians to be higher at tech due to more CS in Faang. It’s not apples to apples

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Better data actually by major:

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/search/fos/?sort=fos_median_earnings:desc&page=0&cip4=1405&cip4_degree=3&school=Georgia%2520Institute%2520of%2520Technology-Main%2520Campus

Georgia tech Median earnings 4 years after graduation: $102k

JHU: $114k
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/search/fos/?sort=fos_median_earnings:desc&page=0&cip4=1405&cip4_degree=3&school=Johns%2520Hopkins%2520University

Interesting. Among all majors and in general GT has it.

Georgia Tech

Graduation Rate
93%
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges: 59%
0%100%Midpoint for 4-yr Schools

Average Annual Cost
$12,116
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges: $20,081
$0
$100,000
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges

Median Earnings
$119,180

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?139755-Georgia-Institute-of-Technology-Main-Campus

Johns Hopkins

Graduation Rate
94%
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges: 59%
0%100%Midpoint for 4-yr Schools

Average Annual Cost
$18,809
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges: $20,081
$0
$100,000
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges

Median Earnings
$117,419
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges: $60,428

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?162928-Johns-Hopkins-University

you should be looking at bme only. Georgia tech is majority CS while JHU is not which causes medians to be higher at tech due to more CS in Faang. It’s not apples to apples

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Anonymous wrote:if your alternative is Dartmouth, BME at JHU for sure. But why not go visit and talk to real students instead of asking DCUM? You'll get good information that way.

BME at JHU is a genuinely great program. The school is rigorous but the story about everyone getting <B 's is completely ridiculous.

OP - We visited both and we will try and visit both again, but unfortunately their admitted students days are on the same exact date so we need to pick one of them. Kid is interested in BME now, but has been interested in engineering for maybe one month now (they applied as a bio major to all other schools) and I'm concerned they will change their mind in a hot minute, especially if it's as rigorous as it seems.

I am curious why they applied to BME if they weren’t interested in engineering yet, and also what you think made their application stand out. Could you share a little about their profile?

I have a kid who is thinking about applying BME, even though he is undecided, because he knows you can transfer out but not in. He’s the opposite of yours though. He knows he wants engineering, but he’s not sure about the bio part. So, I am definitely curious rather than judgemental.

OP here. They applied to BME because they were curious about it and if they didn't get into the BME major, they would not be able to transfer in later. There's no downside because if they do not get accepted into the major, they can still get accepted to the school. Kid has strong stats and decent ECs, but after three early deferrals, we were both surprised that they got in.

My DC is you kid situation. After extensive research (like discussions with students, professors, etc.) he is alnost ready to commit to another school. Not because there is something wrong with Hopkins or with the BME program but another program fits him better. If your kids got accepted into the BME program, he/she will do good. No question about that.

Unfortunately there is no anonymous way to share my kid's contact so your kid can speak ...

Thank you for sharing this and I get the anonymity. What types of things made the other program a better fit? Are you talking about curriculum or career outcomes or ??

Carrier outcome. Hopkins BME is great.

The two schools tied for the #1 BME programs in the country (USNWR 2026)

Baltimore, MD

Johns Hopkins University
Year
Private Nonprofit
City
Medium

Graduation Rate
94%

Average Annual Cost
$19k

Median Earnings
$117k

Georgia Institute of Technology
Year
Public
City
Large

Graduation Rate
93%

Average Annual Cost
$12k

Median Earnings
$119k

Where are you getting the average cost of JHU is $19K?

JHU has a cost of attendance of $92K. 52% of their students receive financial aid, with an average award of $63K, meaning that they're paying, on average 29K. 4% of students receive merit aid, with an average aid package of 22K, so they're paying 70. Less than 1% of students are on athletic scholarships (because JHU only offers financial aid to it's D1 lacrosse teams). Which means assuming no one receives 2 types of aid (unlikely, and would make the average annual cost higher), 43% of students are full pay.

That would be an average cost of about $57K.

So, where does the 19K come from?

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?162928-Johns-Hopkins-University

If you actually look at the data that's the average cost for students who receive Federal financial aid, which is the portion of the students with financial aid who are poor enough to qualify for federal aid. It would make sense that that number would be even lower than the average cost for people who need financial aid. But it's not the average cost for all students at JHU.

The Georgia Tech figure excludes all out of state students as well.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Better data actually by major:

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/search/fos/?sort=fos_median_earnings:desc&page=0&cip4=1405&cip4_degree=3&school=Georgia%2520Institute%2520of%2520Technology-Main%2520Campus

Georgia tech Median earnings 4 years after graduation: $102k

JHU: $114k
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/search/fos/?sort=fos_median_earnings:desc&page=0&cip4=1405&cip4_degree=3&school=Johns%2520Hopkins%2520University

Interesting. Among all majors and in general GT has it.

Georgia Tech

Graduation Rate
93%
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges: 59%
0%100%Midpoint for 4-yr Schools

Average Annual Cost
$12,116
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges: $20,081
$0
$100,000
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges

Median Earnings
$119,180

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?139755-Georgia-Institute-of-Technology-Main-Campus

Johns Hopkins

Graduation Rate
94%
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges: 59%
0%100%Midpoint for 4-yr Schools

Average Annual Cost
$18,809
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges: $20,081
$0
$100,000
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges

Median Earnings
$117,419
Midpoint for 4-yr Colleges: $60,428

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?162928-Johns-Hopkins-University

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Anonymous wrote:if your alternative is Dartmouth, BME at JHU for sure. But why not go visit and talk to real students instead of asking DCUM? You'll get good information that way.

BME at JHU is a genuinely great program. The school is rigorous but the story about everyone getting <B 's is completely ridiculous.

OP - We visited both and we will try and visit both again, but unfortunately their admitted students days are on the same exact date so we need to pick one of them. Kid is interested in BME now, but has been interested in engineering for maybe one month now (they applied as a bio major to all other schools) and I'm concerned they will change their mind in a hot minute, especially if it's as rigorous as it seems.

I am curious why they applied to BME if they weren’t interested in engineering yet, and also what you think made their application stand out. Could you share a little about their profile?

I have a kid who is thinking about applying BME, even though he is undecided, because he knows you can transfer out but not in. He’s the opposite of yours though. He knows he wants engineering, but he’s not sure about the bio part. So, I am definitely curious rather than judgemental.

OP here. They applied to BME because they were curious about it and if they didn't get into the BME major, they would not be able to transfer in later. There's no downside because if they do not get accepted into the major, they can still get accepted to the school. Kid has strong stats and decent ECs, but after three early deferrals, we were both surprised that they got in.

My DC is you kid situation. After extensive research (like discussions with students, professors, etc.) he is alnost ready to commit to another school. Not because there is something wrong with Hopkins or with the BME program but another program fits him better. If your kids got accepted into the BME program, he/she will do good. No question about that.

Unfortunately there is no anonymous way to share my kid's contact so your kid can speak ...

Thank you for sharing this and I get the anonymity. What types of things made the other program a better fit? Are you talking about curriculum or career outcomes or ??

Carrier outcome. Hopkins BME is great.

The two schools tied for the #1 BME programs in the country (USNWR 2026)

Baltimore, MD

Johns Hopkins University
Year
Private Nonprofit
City
Medium

Graduation Rate
94%

Average Annual Cost
$19k

Median Earnings
$117k

Georgia Institute of Technology
Year
Public
City
Large

Graduation Rate
93%

Average Annual Cost
$12k

Median Earnings
$119k

Where are you getting the average cost of JHU is $19K?

JHU has a cost of attendance of $92K. 52% of their students receive financial aid, with an average award of $63K, meaning that they're paying, on average 29K. 4% of students receive merit aid, with an average aid package of 22K, so they're paying 70. Less than 1% of students are on athletic scholarships (because JHU only offers financial aid to it's D1 lacrosse teams). Which means assuming no one receives 2 types of aid (unlikely, and would make the average annual cost higher), 43% of students are full pay.

That would be an average cost of about $57K.

So, where does the 19K come from?

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?162928-Johns-Hopkins-University

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:if your alternative is Dartmouth, BME at JHU for sure. But why not go visit and talk to real students instead of asking DCUM? You'll get good information that way.

BME at JHU is a genuinely great program. The school is rigorous but the story about everyone getting <B 's is completely ridiculous.

OP - We visited both and we will try and visit both again, but unfortunately their admitted students days are on the same exact date so we need to pick one of them. Kid is interested in BME now, but has been interested in engineering for maybe one month now (they applied as a bio major to all other schools) and I'm concerned they will change their mind in a hot minute, especially if it's as rigorous as it seems.

I am curious why they applied to BME if they weren’t interested in engineering yet, and also what you think made their application stand out. Could you share a little about their profile?

I have a kid who is thinking about applying BME, even though he is undecided, because he knows you can transfer out but not in. He’s the opposite of yours though. He knows he wants engineering, but he’s not sure about the bio part. So, I am definitely curious rather than judgemental.

OP here. They applied to BME because they were curious about it and if they didn't get into the BME major, they would not be able to transfer in later. There's no downside because if they do not get accepted into the major, they can still get accepted to the school. Kid has strong stats and decent ECs, but after three early deferrals, we were both surprised that they got in.

My DC is you kid situation. After extensive research (like discussions with students, professors, etc.) he is alnost ready to commit to another school. Not because there is something wrong with Hopkins or with the BME program but another program fits him better. If your kids got accepted into the BME program, he/she will do good. No question about that.

Unfortunately there is no anonymous way to share my kid's contact so your kid can speak ...

Thank you for sharing this and I get the anonymity. What types of things made the other program a better fit? Are you talking about curriculum or career outcomes or ??

Carrier outcome. Hopkins BME is great.

The two schools tied for the #1 BME programs in the country (USNWR 2026)

Baltimore, MD

Johns Hopkins University
Year
Private Nonprofit
City
Medium

Graduation Rate
94%

Average Annual Cost
$19k

Median Earnings
$117k

Georgia Institute of Technology
Year
Public
City
Large

Graduation Rate
93%

Average Annual Cost
$12k

Median Earnings
$119k

Where are you getting the average cost of JHU is $19K?

JHU has a cost of attendance of $92K. 52% of their students receive financial aid, with an average award of $63K, meaning that they're paying, on average 29K. 4% of students receive merit aid, with an average aid package of 22K, so they're paying 70. Less than 1% of students are on athletic scholarships (because JHU only offers financial aid to it's D1 lacrosse teams). Which means assuming no one receives 2 types of aid (unlikely, and would make the average annual cost higher), 43% of students are full pay.

That would be an average cost of about $57K.

So, where does the 19K come from?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:if your alternative is Dartmouth, BME at JHU for sure. But why not go visit and talk to real students instead of asking DCUM? You'll get good information that way.

BME at JHU is a genuinely great program. The school is rigorous but the story about everyone getting <B 's is completely ridiculous.

OP - We visited both and we will try and visit both again, but unfortunately their admitted students days are on the same exact date so we need to pick one of them. Kid is interested in BME now, but has been interested in engineering for maybe one month now (they applied as a bio major to all other schools) and I'm concerned they will change their mind in a hot minute, especially if it's as rigorous as it seems.

I am curious why they applied to BME if they weren’t interested in engineering yet, and also what you think made their application stand out. Could you share a little about their profile?

I have a kid who is thinking about applying BME, even though he is undecided, because he knows you can transfer out but not in. He’s the opposite of yours though. He knows he wants engineering, but he’s not sure about the bio part. So, I am definitely curious rather than judgemental.

OP here. They applied to BME because they were curious about it and if they didn't get into the BME major, they would not be able to transfer in later. There's no downside because if they do not get accepted into the major, they can still get accepted to the school. Kid has strong stats and decent ECs, but after three early deferrals, we were both surprised that they got in.

My DC is you kid situation. After extensive research (like discussions with students, professors, etc.) he is alnost ready to commit to another school. Not because there is something wrong with Hopkins or with the BME program but another program fits him better. If your kids got accepted into the BME program, he/she will do good. No question about that.

Unfortunately there is no anonymous way to share my kid's contact so your kid can speak ...

Thank you for sharing this and I get the anonymity. What types of things made the other program a better fit? Are you talking about curriculum or career outcomes or ??

Carrier outcome. Hopkins BME is great.

The two schools tied for the #1 BME programs in the country (USNWR 2026)

Baltimore, MD

Johns Hopkins University
Year
Private Nonprofit
City
Medium

Graduation Rate
94%

Average Annual Cost
$19k

Median Earnings
$117k

Georgia Institute of Technology
Year
Public
City
Large

Graduation Rate
93%

Average Annual Cost
$12k

Median Earnings
$119k

Anonymous wrote:Better data actually by major:

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/search/fos/?sort=fos_median_earnings:desc&page=0&cip4=1405&cip4_degree=3&school=Georgia%2520Institute%2520of%2520Technology-Main%2520Campus

Georgia tech Median earnings 4 years after graduation: $102k

JHU: $114k
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/search/fos/?sort=fos_median_earnings:desc&page=0&cip4=1405&cip4_degree=3&school=Johns%2520Hopkins%2520University

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Anonymous wrote:JHU has a long reputation of being cut throat. Go visit.

Graduated 3 years ago. It is highly grade inflated (over a 3.8) and very collaborative. Your misinfo is outdated by decades at this point.