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Anonymous wrote:I will never understand why anyone, male or female, would put up with physical, emotional, mental abuse. Why would you lower yourself? I think it is super weird and, I have to say, think less of anyone who joins.

Because in my sorority experience there was none of that. Instead, I had a group of friends that greatly enhanced my college experience, and well beyond


In fact, I am STILL involved 45 years later, and some if my best friends are from that sorority. Every time I have moved, I have been able to join the local alum group and had an instant support group.

Anonymous wrote:Two in sororities in different parts of the country, neither one in the south and both have told me about "blow or blow."

Anonymous wrote:I will never understand why anyone, male or female, would put up with physical, emotional, mental abuse. Why would you lower yourself? I think it is super weird and, I have to say, think less of anyone who joins.

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Anonymous wrote:Most sororities don’t haze, even the top-tier ones. And the few that do keep it so anodyne that no one should be dissuaded from joining out of fear of it, especially when you weigh it against the benefits.

On SEC campuses in particular, top-tier sorority membership is basically a ticket into the upper echelon of Southern society. The top-tier fraternity guys are often the future bank presidents and wealth advisors to UHNWIs in places like Birmingham, Mobile, Biloxi, Charleston, and Jacksonville. Most are married by 26 or 27, often to women from those same top sororities whom they started dating in college.

People in the DMV love to dump on the South, but these folks are living damn good lives by 30. Big house, Bimmers in the driveway, golf and pickleball on the weekends, vacations on Rosemary Beach. You can hit the books all you want, but a high GPA alone doesn’t get you into that world. You network into it, and that applies to men and women. With that in mind, 8–10 weeks of hazing freshman year is a pretty small price to pay.

There's something about this that seems oxymoronic, but I can't quite put my finger on it.

Anonymous wrote:I will never understand why anyone, male or female, would put up with physical, emotional, mental abuse. Why would you lower yourself? I think it is super weird and, I have to say, think less of anyone who joins.

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Anonymous wrote:Mild, good-natured hazing helps the pledge class coalesce and forge bonds.

That's a myth. There is evidence that weathering actual difficulties together can forge healthy bonds in a group. Not much for acting out pointless rituals for the sake of reinforcing arbitrary status.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how some moms here pretend that sororities have such high ideals. The primary reason kids join is to have more alcohol fueled social events to attend, plus some nice pics for their social media. Of course there will also be recreational drugs at some sororities. And I don’t say because I’m a hater, I was in a sorority.

You were probably in a sorority 30 years ago. Don’t assume you know what it’s like now. I was not in a sorority when I was in college but my freshman daughter is having a very good experience so far - nice girls, no hazing, fun traditions, lots of mixers to meet other kids (not just frats; they have mixers with student organizations, too). But she isn’t in an SEC school, so I can’t speak to that experience.

I am currently an advisor for my sorority and have a college junior girl. You all are living in LaLa land, they aren’t doing jigsaw puzzles at those mixers, they are drinking.

So you were in a sorority more than 30 years ago. Thanks.

I’m actively engaged with my college chapter as an advisor. I know far more than someone who heard something from her niece.

Niece?? Not sure who you are responding to. I posted about my daughter. Again, experiences may vary at big schools and SEC schools. I don’t pretend to know about those. But I do know about my daughter’s experience. And many of the posters on here are talking about their own experience decades ago. It’s totally irrelevant.

It actually isn’t, very little has changed. Dirty rushing, like hazing, is prohibited and is still rampant, I would say even more than 30 years ago. Every chapter in the country has points systems that are necessary to get girls to go to the non alcoholic events, like chapter meetings, sisterhood and philanthropy. If a member doesn’t attend enough of these events, they are prohibited from attending mixers and date parties. Otherwise, the non party events would have paltry attendance.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how some moms here pretend that sororities have such high ideals. The primary reason kids join is to have more alcohol fueled social events to attend, plus some nice pics for their social media. Of course there will also be recreational drugs at some sororities. And I don’t say because I’m a hater, I was in a sorority.

You were probably in a sorority 30 years ago. Don’t assume you know what it’s like now. I was not in a sorority when I was in college but my freshman daughter is having a very good experience so far - nice girls, no hazing, fun traditions, lots of mixers to meet other kids (not just frats; they have mixers with student organizations, too). But she isn’t in an SEC school, so I can’t speak to that experience.

I am currently an advisor for my sorority and have a college junior girl. You all are living in LaLa land, they aren’t doing jigsaw puzzles at those mixers, they are drinking.

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Anonymous wrote:I've heard mean stuff like the "jiggle" where the other girls circle your jiggling body parts while the candidate sits on a dryer machine. Also in a circle they shout mean things until she cries. Syracuse/U Mich

My kid is at one of these schools. The rumors about hazing exist, but only about 3 specific sororities. It is 100% NOT tolerated in most of them.

You keep saying this but it’s such a naive statement. No one wants to be the pledge that gets the sorority on probation or worse. Sorority hazing does remain mild compared to what the frats do.

Anonymous wrote:People who want to believe all the salacious stories are walking around convinced of all kinds of crazy stuff and they don’t want to hear that it’s all made up. Those of us who actually know sorority women know Panhel sororities would be laughed off campus if they tried to do any of this, and shut down by their national organization long beforehand.

Anonymous wrote:As someone who was in an SEC sorority in the 2010s...sororities should not be hazing. Seriously if your daughter experiences this: drop and report! The national orgs do not tolerate it. When I was a pledge our introduction to the sorority was getting presents and going to a bunch of bonding events for ~8 weeks. I don't know why anyone would tolerate hazing when you should be having that experience.