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Anonymous wrote:What I keep hearing is that the powers that be “don’t want to gatekeep rigor” and “parents should be able to decide.”

I have a few theories. The FCPS math office people HATE 6th grade algebra 1 (they aren’t fans of advanced math in elementary in general and already managed to essentially get rid of it for 3rd-4th grade). The terrible rollout and worse eligibility change for next year are so bad I wonder if there’s an element of malicious compliance/self-sabotage.

No this is all Reid’s idea. Every principal thinks this is bonkers. It is like she does whatever she wants and the SB is clueless.

This right here. There is no academic research that shows what she is doing is helpful for students. And while hyper-acceleration might be good for some, there are many, many students who are being harmed by this and their parents are clueless. The medical profession has a saying - “Do no harm”, but apparently school superintendents (Reid) goes unchecked with many of her decisions.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I keep hearing is that the powers that be “don’t want to gatekeep rigor” and “parents should be able to decide.”

I have a few theories. The FCPS math office people HATE 6th grade algebra 1 (they aren’t fans of advanced math in elementary in general and already managed to essentially get rid of it for 3rd-4th grade). The terrible rollout and worse eligibility change for next year are so bad I wonder if there’s an element of malicious compliance/self-sabotage.

Parents deciding is not a bad thing but there need to be guard rails. Kids should meet specific criteria, like a 99th percentile MAP, Passed Advanced on the SOL, 4's in their current math, and being in the 91st percentile or higher on the IAAT. Then let parents decide.

There should also be a rule for when kids return to regular AAP math, like anything below a B+. This is a massive accelration of math. There is no good reason for a kid to have a low B or C in the class. Not when they have a more appropriate level class that they can take that will help them prepare for A1H the next year.

The current system allows parents who are more focused on AAP/accelerated math as status place their kids in classes that they are not ready for. The solution is not to get a tutor for the kid, who now needs extra time outside of school to master math that is three years accelerated. We all know that some of the A's and B's this year are kids getting tutoring because that is better then returning the kid to 6th grade AAP math.

The SOLs this year should be interesting...

More students in gen ed get remedial tutoring than advanced students. But I agree advanced students learning at faster widens achievement gap.

Parents in this forum post about tutors for their kids to stay on top of AAP and using RSM to support their kid in the math area. There are kids in AAP whose parents have tutors because their kid needs help to stay up with the AAP program but the families don't want the kid to be in the regular classroom. I promise you there are kids in Algebra this year working with tutors to keep their kid afloat in the class. Some families are more concerned with the appearance of having their child move back to AAP math or out of AAP altogether then they are where their kid is a better fit academically. The kid ends up in a class moving to fast for them and then having to spend hours with a tutor to stay in the class.

This happens in HS as well as type A parents insist that their kid take every AP under the sun, regardless of their kids ability to keep up with the course load. Then there are tutors to help the kid in the classes and bemoaning that the teachers are just awful instead of accepting that their kid isn't a good fit for the class and the issue is that the material is moving too quickly for their kid.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I keep hearing is that the powers that be “don’t want to gatekeep rigor” and “parents should be able to decide.”

I have a few theories. The FCPS math office people HATE 6th grade algebra 1 (they aren’t fans of advanced math in elementary in general and already managed to essentially get rid of it for 3rd-4th grade). The terrible rollout and worse eligibility change for next year are so bad I wonder if there’s an element of malicious compliance/self-sabotage.

Parents deciding is not a bad thing but there need to be guard rails. Kids should meet specific criteria, like a 99th percentile MAP, Passed Advanced on the SOL, 4's in their current math, and being in the 91st percentile or higher on the IAAT. Then let parents decide.

There should also be a rule for when kids return to regular AAP math, like anything below a B+. This is a massive accelration of math. There is no good reason for a kid to have a low B or C in the class. Not when they have a more appropriate level class that they can take that will help them prepare for A1H the next year.

The current system allows parents who are more focused on AAP/accelerated math as status place their kids in classes that they are not ready for. The solution is not to get a tutor for the kid, who now needs extra time outside of school to master math that is three years accelerated. We all know that some of the A's and B's this year are kids getting tutoring because that is better then returning the kid to 6th grade AAP math.

The SOLs this year should be interesting...

More students in gen ed get remedial tutoring than advanced students. But I agree advanced students learning at faster widens achievement gap.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I keep hearing is that the powers that be “don’t want to gatekeep rigor” and “parents should be able to decide.”

I have a few theories. The FCPS math office people HATE 6th grade algebra 1 (they aren’t fans of advanced math in elementary in general and already managed to essentially get rid of it for 3rd-4th grade). The terrible rollout and worse eligibility change for next year are so bad I wonder if there’s an element of malicious compliance/self-sabotage.

No this is all Reid’s idea. Every principal thinks this is bonkers. It is like she does whatever she wants and the SB is clueless.

This right here. There is no academic research that shows what she is doing is helpful for students. And while hyper-acceleration might be good for some, there are many, many students who are being harmed by this and their parents are clueless. The medical profession has a saying - “Do no harm”, but apparently school superintendents (Reid) goes unchecked with many of her decisions.

I am sure if people alerted school board they would have no idea this is happening.

Yes, thanked the board members for starting this program and apparently more are in discussions to meet the needs of advanced students.

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have information whether there are going to be any changes in selection process for Algebra HN in 7th? Specifically, for the AAP students taking Math 7 in 6th grade this year? Will they require high pass or just pass on the 7th SOL?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I keep hearing is that the powers that be “don’t want to gatekeep rigor” and “parents should be able to decide.”

I have a few theories. The FCPS math office people HATE 6th grade algebra 1 (they aren’t fans of advanced math in elementary in general and already managed to essentially get rid of it for 3rd-4th grade). The terrible rollout and worse eligibility change for next year are so bad I wonder if there’s an element of malicious compliance/self-sabotage.

Parents deciding is not a bad thing but there need to be guard rails. Kids should meet specific criteria, like a 99th percentile MAP, Passed Advanced on the SOL, 4's in their current math, and being in the 91st percentile or higher on the IAAT. Then let parents decide.

There should also be a rule for when kids return to regular AAP math, like anything below a B+. This is a massive accelration of math. There is no good reason for a kid to have a low B or C in the class. Not when they have a more appropriate level class that they can take that will help them prepare for A1H the next year.

The current system allows parents who are more focused on AAP/accelerated math as status place their kids in classes that they are not ready for. The solution is not to get a tutor for the kid, who now needs extra time outside of school to master math that is three years accelerated. We all know that some of the A's and B's this year are kids getting tutoring because that is better then returning the kid to 6th grade AAP math.

The SOLs this year should be interesting...

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I keep hearing is that the powers that be “don’t want to gatekeep rigor” and “parents should be able to decide.”

I have a few theories. The FCPS math office people HATE 6th grade algebra 1 (they aren’t fans of advanced math in elementary in general and already managed to essentially get rid of it for 3rd-4th grade). The terrible rollout and worse eligibility change for next year are so bad I wonder if there’s an element of malicious compliance/self-sabotage.

No this is all Reid’s idea. Every principal thinks this is bonkers. It is like she does whatever she wants and the SB is clueless.

This right here. There is no academic research that shows what she is doing is helpful for students. And while hyper-acceleration might be good for some, there are many, many students who are being harmed by this and their parents are clueless. The medical profession has a saying - “Do no harm”, but apparently school superintendents (Reid) goes unchecked with many of her decisions.

I am sure if people alerted school board they would have no idea this is happening.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I keep hearing is that the powers that be “don’t want to gatekeep rigor” and “parents should be able to decide.”

I have a few theories. The FCPS math office people HATE 6th grade algebra 1 (they aren’t fans of advanced math in elementary in general and already managed to essentially get rid of it for 3rd-4th grade). The terrible rollout and worse eligibility change for next year are so bad I wonder if there’s an element of malicious compliance/self-sabotage.

No this is all Reid’s idea. Every principal thinks this is bonkers. It is like she does whatever she wants and the SB is clueless.

This right here. There is no academic research that shows what she is doing is helpful for students. And while hyper-acceleration might be good for some, there are many, many students who are being harmed by this and their parents are clueless. The medical profession has a saying - “Do no harm”, but apparently school superintendents (Reid) goes unchecked with many of her decisions.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I keep hearing is that the powers that be “don’t want to gatekeep rigor” and “parents should be able to decide.”

I have a few theories. The FCPS math office people HATE 6th grade algebra 1 (they aren’t fans of advanced math in elementary in general and already managed to essentially get rid of it for 3rd-4th grade). The terrible rollout and worse eligibility change for next year are so bad I wonder if there’s an element of malicious compliance/self-sabotage.

No this is all Reid’s idea. Every principal thinks this is bonkers. It is like she does whatever she wants and the SB is clueless.

Anonymous wrote:Sol results are not in yet. Why does the form have a May deadline? Are they using something else as criteria?

Anonymous wrote:What I keep hearing is that the powers that be “don’t want to gatekeep rigor” and “parents should be able to decide.”

I have a few theories. The FCPS math office people HATE 6th grade algebra 1 (they aren’t fans of advanced math in elementary in general and already managed to essentially get rid of it for 3rd-4th grade). The terrible rollout and worse eligibility change for next year are so bad I wonder if there’s an element of malicious compliance/self-sabotage.

Anonymous wrote:What I keep hearing is that the powers that be “don’t want to gatekeep rigor” and “parents should be able to decide.”

I have a few theories. The FCPS math office people HATE 6th grade algebra 1 (they aren’t fans of advanced math in elementary in general and already managed to essentially get rid of it for 3rd-4th grade). The terrible rollout and worse eligibility change for next year are so bad I wonder if there’s an element of malicious compliance/self-sabotage.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Word on the street is any kid in 5th advanced who passes the 6th grade SOL (not pass advanced, just passes) will be eligible for algebra 1. If you have a kid in 5th advanced, check the digital consent in ParentVue today. There’s an opt in/opt out there now due by May 8. Principals were not notified until today.

What is this digital consent? I don’t see anything in parentvue.

I don’t see anything either.