Anonymous wrote:News flash: Mexico is dangerous! Cartels vie for power with a generally inept, corrupt, and ineffective government. Who knew?

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Anonymous wrote:Mexico is cheap. Period. People vacation there because it is cheaper than alternatives in safer, better governed, 1st world environments. If you really think it's a safe environment, you're hopelessly deluded. Not every single tourist has to be murdered for a place to be dangerous - crime occurs on a spectrum, and there's plenty of it in Mexico, a country where cartels control a third of the territory. Want to take risks in return for a cheap vacation? Your prerogative, but the risks are there.

https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/conflict/criminal-violence-mexico

https://elcri.men/en/violence-map/

https://www.statista.com/topics/6576/crime-and-violence-in-mexico/?srsltid=AfmBOoqsgHtBSJ1fzwl9a3cB1mdh5e3ff2aVYiaAS5GftwBPIvW1FVWE

Now do the US. We're dangerous AND expensive

Anonymous wrote:Mexico is cheap. Period. People vacation there because it is cheaper than alternatives in safer, better governed, 1st world environments. If you really think it's a safe environment, you're hopelessly deluded. Not every single tourist has to be murdered for a place to be dangerous - crime occurs on a spectrum, and there's plenty of it in Mexico, a country where cartels control a third of the territory. Want to take risks in return for a cheap vacation? Your prerogative, but the risks are there.

https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/conflict/criminal-violence-mexico

https://elcri.men/en/violence-map/

https://www.statista.com/topics/6576/crime-and-violence-in-mexico/?srsltid=AfmBOoqsgHtBSJ1fzwl9a3cB1mdh5e3ff2aVYiaAS5GftwBPIvW1FVWE

Anonymous wrote:Mexico is cheap. Period. People vacation there because it is cheaper than alternatives in safer, better governed, 1st world environments. If you really think it's a safe environment, you're hopelessly deluded. Not every single tourist has to be murdered for a place to be dangerous - crime occurs on a spectrum, and there's plenty of it in Mexico, a country where cartels control a third of the territory. Want to take risks in return for a cheap vacation? Your prerogative, but the risks are there.

https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/conflict/criminal-violence-mexico

https://elcri.men/en/violence-map/

https://www.statista.com/topics/6576/crime-and-violence-in-mexico/?srsltid=AfmBOoqsgHtBSJ1fzwl9a3cB1mdh5e3ff2aVYiaAS5GftwBPIvW1FVWE

Anonymous wrote:Mexico is cheap. Period. People vacation there because it is cheaper than alternatives in safer, better governed, 1st world environments. If you really think it's a safe environment, you're hopelessly deluded. Not every single tourist has to be murdered for a place to be dangerous - crime occurs on a spectrum, and there's plenty of it in Mexico, a country where cartels control a third of the territory. Want to take risks in return for a cheap vacation? Your prerogative, but the risks are there.

https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/conflict/criminal-violence-mexico

https://elcri.men/en/violence-map/

https://www.statista.com/topics/6576/crime-and-violence-in-mexico/?srsltid=AfmBOoqsgHtBSJ1fzwl9a3cB1mdh5e3ff2aVYiaAS5GftwBPIvW1FVWE

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Anonymous wrote:You're fine going there. First of all, Puerto Vallarta is on the completely other side of the country. Secondly, the Yucatan isn't known for a lot of cartel activity.

They just have thugs pulling up on jet skis and shooting people on the beach.

Omg no they do not! You’re watching too much Fox News

https://abcnews.com/International/12-year-boy-killed-gunmen-jet-skis-cancun/story?id=112382902

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mexico-cancun-dug-deal-gunmen-beach-jet-skis/

https://nypost.com/2024/10/03/world-news/1-killed-in-shooting-at-5-star-cancun-resort-by-gunmen-who-fled-on-jet-skis-reports/

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Anonymous wrote:You're fine going there. First of all, Puerto Vallarta is on the completely other side of the country. Secondly, the Yucatan isn't known for a lot of cartel activity.

They just have thugs pulling up on jet skis and shooting people on the beach.

Omg no they do not! You’re watching too much Fox News

https://abcnews.com/International/12-year-boy-killed-gunmen-jet-skis-cancun/story?id=112382902

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mexico-cancun-dug-deal-gunmen-beach-jet-skis/

https://nypost.com/2024/10/03/world-news/1-killed-in-shooting-at-5-star-cancun-resort-by-gunmen-who-fled-on-jet-skis-reports/

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Anonymous wrote:You're fine going there. First of all, Puerto Vallarta is on the completely other side of the country. Secondly, the Yucatan isn't known for a lot of cartel activity.

They just have thugs pulling up on jet skis and shooting people on the beach.

This word tells me all I need to know about you.

What should you call someone who commits violence?

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Anonymous wrote:You're fine going there. First of all, Puerto Vallarta is on the completely other side of the country. Secondly, the Yucatan isn't known for a lot of cartel activity.

They just have thugs pulling up on jet skis and shooting people on the beach.

Omg no they do not! You’re watching too much Fox News

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Anonymous wrote:You're fine going there. First of all, Puerto Vallarta is on the completely other side of the country. Secondly, the Yucatan isn't known for a lot of cartel activity.

They just have thugs pulling up on jet skis and shooting people on the beach.

Same in Cancun. They aren't purposely aiming for tourists, but sometimes they get caught in the crossfire.

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Anonymous wrote:You're fine going there. First of all, Puerto Vallarta is on the completely other side of the country. Secondly, the Yucatan isn't known for a lot of cartel activity.

They just have thugs pulling up on jet skis and shooting people on the beach.

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Anonymous wrote:You're fine going there. First of all, Puerto Vallarta is on the completely other side of the country. Secondly, the Yucatan isn't known for a lot of cartel activity.

They just have thugs pulling up on jet skis and shooting people on the beach.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm usually the person who says people are too cautious on these sorts of things. There are black hawk helicopters, busses being burned. Even I have to cry uncle - and that doesn't make me a Karen.

We just cancelled our week in Punta Mita scheduled for the end of March.

Where are you going instead?

Not sure yet. We'll get a full refund on our hotel (the drop dead date is March 1) and will have to do a flight credit with the airline. I consider us very lucky.

Pickings are slim since we're a month out, though. We prefer direct flights, which limits us to the Bahamas, Turks and Caicos, Jamaica, and Puerto Rico. Direct flights are $8K for a family (very high) and even once there, all of the luxury accommodations are booked.

If anyone has recommendations, I would be all ears! I suspect we'll probably end up doing something in California or Florida. I'm disappointed, as we really needed this vacation (tough 6 months at work) and I love Mexico, but no way am I willing to risk my children's lives or well-being.

Sadly, it'll be years before I can convince DH to go back to Mexico. C'est la vie.

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Anonymous wrote:You're fine going there. First of all, Puerto Vallarta is on the completely other side of the country. Secondly, the Yucatan isn't known for a lot of cartel activity.

They just have thugs pulling up on jet skis and shooting people on the beach.

This word tells me all I need to know about you.