Anonymous wrote:Horrifying how many children and school staff are traumatized on the regular because this country cannot agree to commonsense gun safety. It makes me so sick. I dread telling my kids about this but of course have to otherwise they’ll hear it from someone else. The madness must stop. Praying for all those injured physically and emotionally.

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Anonymous wrote:And of course we don’t need resource officers or police in the schools because that is more dangerous 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
Shame on Montgomery County for continuing to destroy things. Make our kids feel safe in school and stop worrying about discrimination.

Our schools do have officers. Wootton has a full time SRO.

An SRO or a CEO? They are somewhat different, and I thought MCPS got rid of the SROs about 5 years ago. The purpose of a SRO is that they were specially trained to deal with you, and embedded into the school. The idea was that they would build specific relationships within the school and so would be more likely to know if a specific kid has beef with another kid, something brewing that might turn violent, one kid that is known to be troubled or dealing or whatever. It's hard with 3000 kids and one SRO, but the idea itself is sound and has in the past been an effective violence disruptor because kids will come to the SRO and anonymously alert them to an problem.
I personally think the schools need more security officers (probably double what they currently have) and more SROs (maybe 2-4 per school for these monstrously large schools with additional training for the SROs and more opportunity for them to engage positively with the student body, e.g., guest speakers in the health and government classes).

I think the evidence is that SROs are not very effective at stopping the Uvalde type shooters (because those shooters are suicidal and assume they will get taken out), but are decently effective a taking the in-school drug dealing and regular teen violence and pushing it outside the school property. That may push it to the parking lot of a Target, or a public park or an apartment building or whatever, but at least it allows kids that want to go to school in peace to do so.

I've been skeptical of metal detectors because they don't seem practical with 3000 students coming in every morning and also because the security guards I know that work metal detectors said they are actually kind of hard to operate -- you have to be particularly skilled in figuring out what you're looking at, and I just don't think that it's realistic for MCPS to implement this -- plus people would just prop a door and sneak it in the back, and kids are in and out all day long for DE and portable classrooms, etc. Maybe I'm wrong on this, but it just doesn't seem like a real solution.

The official title is CEO. However that was just to appease people so that they could say there are no SROs in schools…. They changed the name from SRO to CEO.
They’ve always been in the schools.
Rockville City has 2 full time CEOs. One assigned to RM and one to Wootton.

CEOs cannot walk the hallways without the Principal's say so, unlike SROs.

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Anonymous wrote:I am watching the news. Dismissal seems like a cluster. Why are they trying to move them to Frost?

Probably because police want Wootton building evacuated but want reunification to have access to indoors because it's cold

But they've said no threat to the public. I just don't understand how it can be this unorganized.

CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION

They can block that hallway off. It's not rocket science to line children up and reunite the with parents.

Children do not want to immediately reenter a school where someone was shot.

Anonymous wrote:Wootton has been crazy for awhile now. Over 50 staff left over the summer - new principal, half of assistant principals, the head of security, the head of special education, most of counseling, and so many teachers. There was the inadequate handling of racist events. Now this. When is central office going to give Wootton the support they obviously need?

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Anonymous wrote:And of course we don’t need resource officers or police in the schools because that is more dangerous 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
Shame on Montgomery County for continuing to destroy things. Make our kids feel safe in school and stop worrying about discrimination.

Our schools do have officers. Wootton has a full time SRO.

An SRO or a CEO? They are somewhat different, and I thought MCPS got rid of the SROs about 5 years ago. The purpose of a SRO is that they were specially trained to deal with you, and embedded into the school. The idea was that they would build specific relationships within the school and so would be more likely to know if a specific kid has beef with another kid, something brewing that might turn violent, one kid that is known to be troubled or dealing or whatever. It's hard with 3000 kids and one SRO, but the idea itself is sound and has in the past been an effective violence disruptor because kids will come to the SRO and anonymously alert them to an problem.
I personally think the schools need more security officers (probably double what they currently have) and more SROs (maybe 2-4 per school for these monstrously large schools with additional training for the SROs and more opportunity for them to engage positively with the student body, e.g., guest speakers in the health and government classes).

I think the evidence is that SROs are not very effective at stopping the Uvalde type shooters (because those shooters are suicidal and assume they will get taken out), but are decently effective a taking the in-school drug dealing and regular teen violence and pushing it outside the school property. That may push it to the parking lot of a Target, or a public park or an apartment building or whatever, but at least it allows kids that want to go to school in peace to do so.

I've been skeptical of metal detectors because they don't seem practical with 3000 students coming in every morning and also because the security guards I know that work metal detectors said they are actually kind of hard to operate -- you have to be particularly skilled in figuring out what you're looking at, and I just don't think that it's realistic for MCPS to implement this -- plus people would just prop a door and sneak it in the back, and kids are in and out all day long for DE and portable classrooms, etc. Maybe I'm wrong on this, but it just doesn't seem like a real solution.

The official title is CEO. However that was just to appease people so that they could say there are no SROs in schools…. They changed the name from SRO to CEO.
They’ve always been in the schools.
Rockville City has 2 full time CEOs. One assigned to RM and one to Wootton.

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Anonymous wrote:And of course we don’t need resource officers or police in the schools because that is more dangerous 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
Shame on Montgomery County for continuing to destroy things. Make our kids feel safe in school and stop worrying about discrimination.

Our schools do have officers. Wootton has a full time SRO.

An SRO or a CEO? They are somewhat different, and I thought MCPS got rid of the SROs about 5 years ago. The purpose of a SRO is that they were specially trained to deal with you, and embedded into the school. The idea was that they would build specific relationships within the school and so would be more likely to know if a specific kid has beef with another kid, something brewing that might turn violent, one kid that is known to be troubled or dealing or whatever. It's hard with 3000 kids and one SRO, but the idea itself is sound and has in the past been an effective violence disruptor because kids will come to the SRO and anonymously alert them to an problem.
I personally think the schools need more security officers (probably double what they currently have) and more SROs (maybe 2-4 per school for these monstrously large schools with additional training for the SROs and more opportunity for them to engage positively with the student body, e.g., guest speakers in the health and government classes).

I think the evidence is that SROs are not very effective at stopping the Uvalde type shooters (because those shooters are suicidal and assume they will get taken out), but are decently effective a taking the in-school drug dealing and regular teen violence and pushing it outside the school property. That may push it to the parking lot of a Target, or a public park or an apartment building or whatever, but at least it allows kids that want to go to school in peace to do so.

I've been skeptical of metal detectors because they don't seem practical with 3000 students coming in every morning and also because the security guards I know that work metal detectors said they are actually kind of hard to operate -- you have to be particularly skilled in figuring out what you're looking at, and I just don't think that it's realistic for MCPS to implement this -- plus people would just prop a door and sneak it in the back, and kids are in and out all day long for DE and portable classrooms, etc. Maybe I'm wrong on this, but it just doesn't seem like a real solution.

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Anonymous wrote:I am watching the news. Dismissal seems like a cluster. Why are they trying to move them to Frost?

Yes, why at Frost??

Well Frost is just a short walk over the hill. But why walk them to Frost to be picked up? Why not just load up the buses and get them on their way home? I don't understand what going to Frost accomplishes.

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Anonymous wrote:I am watching the news. Dismissal seems like a cluster. Why are they trying to move them to Frost?

Probably because police want Wootton building evacuated but want reunification to have access to indoors because it's cold

But they've said no threat to the public. I just don't understand how it can be this unorganized.

CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION

They can block that hallway off. It's not rocket science to line children up and reunite the with parents.

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Anonymous wrote:Did Frost go into lockdown or did the middle school have regular dismissal?

Frost was in lockdown, and Lakewood too. But now students can leave (take bus or pick up by parents ), can't walk.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS, you got some 'splainin' to do!

Don't be a pig. No details are known.

What? How is saying MCPS has some explaining to do me being a pig?

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Anonymous wrote:And of course we don’t need resource officers or police in the schools because that is more dangerous 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
Shame on Montgomery County for continuing to destroy things. Make our kids feel safe in school and stop worrying about discrimination.

Our schools do have officers. Wootton has a full time SRO.

Anonymous wrote:Did Frost go into lockdown or did the middle school have regular dismissal?