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Anonymous wrote:Only a few people have the memo, they only verbally tell ICE agents about it, and it is in direct violation of DHS policies and the 4th Amendment

They are ChiCom Big Government criminals.

Important correction to your title, PP. They didn’t say no more warrants; they said no judicial warrants. That means no warrant signed by a judge which is the gold standard. They would still need a warrant but it would be issued by ICE so would have lower standards presumably.

A judicial warrant isn’t the “gold standard.” It’s the constitution. An “administrative warrant” is just a piece of paper signed by a bureaucrat. It has no legal significance.

+1 An administrative warrant is from the executive branch telling ICE which is also part of the executive branch that something is permissible. The entire point of a judicial warrant is that another branch needs to weigh in. You know, checks and balances like most of us learned about in elementary school.

I'm not a lawyer but if this policy is allowed to stand, wouldn't the government be able to use it with citizens as well as non-citizens? I mean, if they open the door to allowing for the suspension of the practice of requiring a judicial warrant to enter someone's home, couldn't they suspend it for EVERYONE?

Police can already do this. If they go into a home without a warrant, the arrest will stand. Anything found in a search could be thrown at trial, but you cannot 'suppress the body.'

Indeed. Unfortunately, this Supreme Court (and its predecessors but especially this one) have nearly eliminated the remedy that was contemplated when the 4th amendment was adopted. That was suing agents of the government in their individual capacity for 4th amendment violations. However, Bivens and its progeny have pretty much eliminated that.

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Anonymous wrote:Also: The $50K being offered to new ICE recruits functions more like a loan than a traditional sign-on bonus.
According to the fine print (which most of them likely did not read🤭), agents must serve a requisite 5 years.

If they leave for any reason (they resign or are terminated) before completing this period, they must REPAY any bonuses & overtime based on the time served.

It’s going to be awesome when the next president summarily fires all of them and then sics federal debt collectors on them.

I’m sure we taxpayers will bail them out. Kinda like how Biden invested in red states/areas. Q q Democrats are too nice.

Biden was way too nice. It’s a big reason we’re in this mess. A primary qualification for the next president is no mercy for the people who did this to us.

Still learned nothing from Biden years. This is why Trump must go after Democrats.

Biden made the same mistake that we did after the civil war. We really need to go scorched earth on MAGA this time around.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Only a few people have the memo, they only verbally tell ICE agents about it, and it is in direct violation of DHS policies and the 4th Amendment

They are ChiCom Big Government criminals.

Important correction to your title, PP. They didn’t say no more warrants; they said no judicial warrants. That means no warrant signed by a judge which is the gold standard. They would still need a warrant but it would be issued by ICE so would have lower standards presumably.

A judicial warrant isn’t the “gold standard.” It’s the constitution. An “administrative warrant” is just a piece of paper signed by a bureaucrat. It has no legal significance.

+1 An administrative warrant is from the executive branch telling ICE which is also part of the executive branch that something is permissible. The entire point of a judicial warrant is that another branch needs to weigh in. You know, checks and balances like most of us learned about in elementary school.

I'm not a lawyer but if this policy is allowed to stand, wouldn't the government be able to use it with citizens as well as non-citizens? I mean, if they open the door to allowing for the suspension of the practice of requiring a judicial warrant to enter someone's home, couldn't they suspend it for EVERYONE?

Police can already do this. If they go into a home without a warrant, the arrest will stand. Anything found in a search could be thrown at trial, but you cannot 'suppress the body.'

Lmao…you think that they can kick down doors just in case and arrest the people that they think committed a crime? And what of all of the innocent people?

Do you have a head injury?

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Anonymous wrote:Also: The $50K being offered to new ICE recruits functions more like a loan than a traditional sign-on bonus.
According to the fine print (which most of them likely did not read🤭), agents must serve a requisite 5 years.

If they leave for any reason (they resign or are terminated) before completing this period, they must REPAY any bonuses & overtime based on the time served.

Sounds like indentured servitude.

Exactly. And that is probably why they are erasing history in museums and national parks...

It's hard to make new slaves and serfs if they are wise to what you are doing.

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Anonymous wrote:They are entering the houses of illegal immigrants who have final orders of removal issued by immigration judges. I don’t see why this is a bad thing.

Do you cate if the Constitution is followed or not?

Under the Constitution, if there is no warrant, any thing found in a search is inadmissible, the exclusionary rule.
Police can enter without a warrant if they have probable cause of a crime in progress, but again no search.
Here it is an illegal immigrant, not a criminal case, and there is no remedy as there was no search.

That probable cause is things like hearing threatening shouting or a previous 911 call. Not, 'hey I am at the door and think something could be happening so I am going in'

Illegal immigrants have committed a felony.

Not true, but also, b@tch, please.

We will keep the immigrants and put the ICE agents in the camps.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also: The $50K being offered to new ICE recruits functions more like a loan than a traditional sign-on bonus.
According to the fine print (which most of them likely did not read🤭), agents must serve a requisite 5 years.

If they leave for any reason (they resign or are terminated) before completing this period, they must REPAY any bonuses & overtime based on the time served.

It’s going to be awesome when the next president summarily fires all of them and then sics federal debt collectors on them.

I’m sure we taxpayers will bail them out. Kinda like how Biden invested in red states/areas. Q q Democrats are too nice.

Biden was way too nice. It’s a big reason we’re in this mess. A primary qualification for the next president is no mercy for the people who did this to us.

Still learned nothing from Biden years. This is why Trump must go after Democrats.

Because he’s an unAmerican POS?

Anonymous wrote:Also: The $50K being offered to new ICE recruits functions more like a loan than a traditional sign-on bonus.
According to the fine print (which most of them likely did not read🤭), agents must serve a requisite 5 years.

If they leave for any reason (they resign or are terminated) before completing this period, they must REPAY any bonuses & overtime based on the time served.

Sounds like indentured servitude.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are entering the houses of illegal immigrants who have final orders of removal issued by immigration judges. I don’t see why this is a bad thing.

Do you cate if the Constitution is followed or not?

Under the Constitution, if there is no warrant, any thing found in a search is inadmissible, the exclusionary rule.
Police can enter without a warrant if they have probable cause of a crime in progress, but again no search.
Here it is an illegal immigrant, not a criminal case, and there is no remedy as there was no search.

That probable cause is things like hearing threatening shouting or a previous 911 call. Not, 'hey I am at the door and think something could be happening so I am going in'

Illegal immigrants have committed a felony.

No, they haven’t.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are entering the houses of illegal immigrants who have final orders of removal issued by immigration judges. I don’t see why this is a bad thing.

Do you cate if the Constitution is followed or not?

Under the Constitution, if there is no warrant, any thing found in a search is inadmissible, the exclusionary rule.
Police can enter without a warrant if they have probable cause of a crime in progress, but again no search.
Here it is an illegal immigrant, not a criminal case, and there is no remedy as there was no search.

That probable cause is things like hearing threatening shouting or a previous 911 call. Not, 'hey I am at the door and think something could be happening so I am going in'

Illegal immigrants have committed a felony.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Only a few people have the memo, they only verbally tell ICE agents about it, and it is in direct violation of DHS policies and the 4th Amendment

They are ChiCom Big Government criminals.

Important correction to your title, PP. They didn’t say no more warrants; they said no judicial warrants. That means no warrant signed by a judge which is the gold standard. They would still need a warrant but it would be issued by ICE so would have lower standards presumably.

A judicial warrant isn’t the “gold standard.” It’s the constitution. An “administrative warrant” is just a piece of paper signed by a bureaucrat. It has no legal significance.

+1 An administrative warrant is from the executive branch telling ICE which is also part of the executive branch that something is permissible. The entire point of a judicial warrant is that another branch needs to weigh in. You know, checks and balances like most of us learned about in elementary school.

I'm not a lawyer but if this policy is allowed to stand, wouldn't the government be able to use it with citizens as well as non-citizens? I mean, if they open the door to allowing for the suspension of the practice of requiring a judicial warrant to enter someone's home, couldn't they suspend it for EVERYONE?

Police can already do this. If they go into a home without a warrant, the arrest will stand. Anything found in a search could be thrown at trial, but you cannot 'suppress the body.'

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+1 An administrative warrant is from the executive branch telling ICE which is also part of the executive branch that something is permissible. The entire point of a judicial warrant is that another branch needs to weigh in. You know, checks and balances like most of us learned about in elementary school.

No. A judicial warrant is for criminal cases. To get a judicial warrant, the government would have to seek to arrest someone and put the on trial for a crime, rather than detain and deport.
This is certainly possible, particularly now that they have set up the registration process for the Alien Registration Act of 1940, making almost all illegal immigrants guilty of a felony.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also: The $50K being offered to new ICE recruits functions more like a loan than a traditional sign-on bonus.
According to the fine print (which most of them likely did not read🤭), agents must serve a requisite 5 years.

If they leave for any reason (they resign or are terminated) before completing this period, they must REPAY any bonuses & overtime based on the time served.

It’s going to be awesome when the next president summarily fires all of them and then sics federal debt collectors on them.

I’m sure we taxpayers will bail them out. Kinda like how Biden invested in red states/areas. Q q Democrats are too nice.

Biden was way too nice. It’s a big reason we’re in this mess. A primary qualification for the next president is no mercy for the people who did this to us.

Still learned nothing from Biden years. This is why Trump must go after Democrats.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also: The $50K being offered to new ICE recruits functions more like a loan than a traditional sign-on bonus.
According to the fine print (which most of them likely did not read🤭), agents must serve a requisite 5 years.

If they leave for any reason (they resign or are terminated) before completing this period, they must REPAY any bonuses & overtime based on the time served.

It’s going to be awesome when the next president summarily fires all of them and then sics federal debt collectors on them.

I’m sure we taxpayers will bail them out. Kinda like how Biden invested in red states/areas. Q q Democrats are too nice.

Biden was way too nice. It’s a big reason we’re in this mess. A primary qualification for the next president is no mercy for the people who did this to us.

+1. Zero mercy. Send the kind of message that gets remembered for generations.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also: The $50K being offered to new ICE recruits functions more like a loan than a traditional sign-on bonus.
According to the fine print (which most of them likely did not read🤭), agents must serve a requisite 5 years.

If they leave for any reason (they resign or are terminated) before completing this period, they must REPAY any bonuses & overtime based on the time served.

It’s going to be awesome when the next president summarily fires all of them and then sics federal debt collectors on them.

I’m sure we taxpayers will bail them out. Kinda like how Biden invested in red states/areas. Q q Democrats are too nice.

Biden was way too nice. It’s a big reason we’re in this mess. A primary qualification for the next president is no mercy for the people who did this to us.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also: The $50K being offered to new ICE recruits functions more like a loan than a traditional sign-on bonus.
According to the fine print (which most of them likely did not read🤭), agents must serve a requisite 5 years.

If they leave for any reason (they resign or are terminated) before completing this period, they must REPAY any bonuses & overtime based on the time served.

It’s going to be awesome when the next president summarily fires all of them and then sics federal debt collectors on them.

I’m sure we taxpayers will bail them out. Kinda like how Biden invested in red states/areas. Q q Democrats are too nice.