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Anonymous wrote:My 7 year old was just at my niece's birthday party with a bunch of 3 year olds and handled himself more maturely. Did some 3 year olds bother him and cross his boundaries? Absolutely. He said no and then asked for a break.

Did none of the people talking about kids touching stuff not have younger siblings? I'm about 8 years older than my youngest sibling and yes, she got into stuff and no, I wasn't allowed to smack her.

If you read the OP‘s update, you’d see that the teenager tried by moving her things and going to a different room. The five year followed. The parent of the five-year-old should have intervened and redirected her child to something else instead of assuming a teenager is going to babysit for free.

The teen also could have talked to OP or her own parent. Like my 7 year old talked to me.

Again, not hard to avoid hitting a kid.

The 15 year old is ALSO a kid, dummy.

My kid's babysitter is 15. You guys infantilizing teenagers are doing them no favors.

Children can be babysitters. Treating children like children isn’t infantilizing. This is a weird response considering how helicoptery parents are on here towards their adult kids.

2 year olds in daycare get told "no, we don't hit". Acting like a 15 year old is somehow less savvy (and gets presents for hitting kids) is treating a kid appropriately?

A 15 year old should know not to hit. But, expecting them to act like an adult and calling them crap is unacceptable.

Where does it say they expected the 15 year old to act like an adult. SIL yelled at the boyfriend who demonstrated SIL was right by buying his child gifts. He literally rewarded his daughter smacking a preschooler. He's a shit parent, SIL is right.

People on this thread did. Teens make mistakes.

And a normal parent would ground their kid for this. Not take them shopping.

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Anonymous wrote:My 7 year old was just at my niece's birthday party with a bunch of 3 year olds and handled himself more maturely. Did some 3 year olds bother him and cross his boundaries? Absolutely. He said no and then asked for a break.

Did none of the people talking about kids touching stuff not have younger siblings? I'm about 8 years older than my youngest sibling and yes, she got into stuff and no, I wasn't allowed to smack her.

If you read the OP‘s update, you’d see that the teenager tried by moving her things and going to a different room. The five year followed. The parent of the five-year-old should have intervened and redirected her child to something else instead of assuming a teenager is going to babysit for free.

The teen also could have talked to OP or her own parent. Like my 7 year old talked to me.

Again, not hard to avoid hitting a kid.

The 15 year old is ALSO a kid, dummy.

My kid's babysitter is 15. You guys infantilizing teenagers are doing them no favors.

Children can be babysitters. Treating children like children isn’t infantilizing. This is a weird response considering how helicoptery parents are on here towards their adult kids.

2 year olds in daycare get told "no, we don't hit". Acting like a 15 year old is somehow less savvy (and gets presents for hitting kids) is treating a kid appropriately?

A 15 year old should know not to hit. But, expecting them to act like an adult and calling them crap is unacceptable.

Where does it say they expected the 15 year old to act like an adult. SIL yelled at the boyfriend who demonstrated SIL was right by buying his child gifts. He literally rewarded his daughter smacking a preschooler. He's a shit parent, SIL is right.

People on this thread did. Teens make mistakes.

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Anonymous wrote:My 7 year old was just at my niece's birthday party with a bunch of 3 year olds and handled himself more maturely. Did some 3 year olds bother him and cross his boundaries? Absolutely. He said no and then asked for a break.

Did none of the people talking about kids touching stuff not have younger siblings? I'm about 8 years older than my youngest sibling and yes, she got into stuff and no, I wasn't allowed to smack her.

Come back when your 7 year old has the hormones of a teenager and is being incessantly pestered by kids who aren’t even close to being his playmates.

Some of y’all are about as smart as a box of hair.

I'm sorry are you seriously arguing a 15 year old should be expected to have less impulse control that a 7 year old. That's just sad.

Spoken like the know-it-all mom of a 7 year. The teenage years are going to knock you on your @$$, and you totally deserve it

Also, your kid is DEFINITELY going to hate you when he’s a teen…

You know a lot of us were teen girls who babysat children. My kid's baby sitter is a 16 year old girl.

You sound like you're raising an absolute monster of you are going around excusing teenagers hitting children with "hormones".

No, that's not remotely normal behavior.

My kids are lovely. But they’re not going to babysit your brats for free because you’re too incompetent to parent your kids.

You also don’t understand the difference between excusing and explaining, so again, your kid is going to absolutely hate you (and rightly so) when he’s a teen. Good luck with that.

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Anonymous wrote:My 7 year old was just at my niece's birthday party with a bunch of 3 year olds and handled himself more maturely. Did some 3 year olds bother him and cross his boundaries? Absolutely. He said no and then asked for a break.

Did none of the people talking about kids touching stuff not have younger siblings? I'm about 8 years older than my youngest sibling and yes, she got into stuff and no, I wasn't allowed to smack her.

If you read the OP‘s update, you’d see that the teenager tried by moving her things and going to a different room. The five year followed. The parent of the five-year-old should have intervened and redirected her child to something else instead of assuming a teenager is going to babysit for free.

The teen also could have talked to OP or her own parent. Like my 7 year old talked to me.

Again, not hard to avoid hitting a kid.

The 15 year old is ALSO a kid, dummy.

My kid's babysitter is 15. You guys infantilizing teenagers are doing them no favors.

Children can be babysitters. Treating children like children isn’t infantilizing. This is a weird response considering how helicoptery parents are on here towards their adult kids.

2 year olds in daycare get told "no, we don't hit". Acting like a 15 year old is somehow less savvy (and gets presents for hitting kids) is treating a kid appropriately?

A 15 year old should know not to hit. But, expecting them to act like an adult and calling them crap is unacceptable.

Where does it say they expected the 15 year old to act like an adult. SIL yelled at the boyfriend who demonstrated SIL was right by buying his child gifts. He literally rewarded his daughter smacking a preschooler. He's a shit parent, SIL is right.

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Anonymous wrote:My 7 year old was just at my niece's birthday party with a bunch of 3 year olds and handled himself more maturely. Did some 3 year olds bother him and cross his boundaries? Absolutely. He said no and then asked for a break.

Did none of the people talking about kids touching stuff not have younger siblings? I'm about 8 years older than my youngest sibling and yes, she got into stuff and no, I wasn't allowed to smack her.

Come back when your 7 year old has the hormones of a teenager and is being incessantly pestered by kids who aren’t even close to being his playmates.

Some of y’all are about as smart as a box of hair.

I'm sorry are you seriously arguing a 15 year old should be expected to have less impulse control that a 7 year old. That's just sad.

Spoken like the know-it-all mom of a 7 year. The teenage years are going to knock you on your @$$, and you totally deserve it

Also, your kid is DEFINITELY going to hate you when he’s a teen…

You know a lot of us were teen girls who babysat children. My kid's baby sitter is a 16 year old girl.

You sound like you're raising an absolute monster of you are going around excusing teenagers hitting children with "hormones".

No, that's not remotely normal behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:Team Teen. I’m assuming the girl didn’t immediately resort to swatting him on the arm. And I’m assuming SIL wasn’t discipline fhim or keeping a proper eye on him.

Depending on how long you’ve been dating your boyfriend, these are quasi-family. Teens and toddlers will sometimes scuffle or not act like their best selves. Your SIL overreacted. And your boyfriend got pissed and met her energy.

Same.

A swat on the arm is hardly abuse. The mom wasn't controlling the 5-year old, letting him bug the 15-year old. A 15-year old will resort to a swat. Would the mom have preferred the teen verbally rip into the kid and let him have it, which is another 15-year old reaction?

I think the dad was rewarding the teen's sense of boundaries. Good on him, he sounds like a good dad. You don't want your young child annoying others, and you don't want teens resorting to any kind of harsh reaction. A swat is not a harsh reaction. The one who failed in this situation is the small child's mom who wouldn't control her young child and then over-reacted to the teen's mild swat.

Do you realize that there are options beyond these two?

Do YOU realize that there are options beyond *allowing* a teen to swat a five year old and calling her a “crap, trash” person?

You people are absolute morons. It’s mind-blowing.

It sure tracks that the person who defends smacking children is going around calling everyone morons.

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Anonymous wrote:My 7 year old was just at my niece's birthday party with a bunch of 3 year olds and handled himself more maturely. Did some 3 year olds bother him and cross his boundaries? Absolutely. He said no and then asked for a break.

Did none of the people talking about kids touching stuff not have younger siblings? I'm about 8 years older than my youngest sibling and yes, she got into stuff and no, I wasn't allowed to smack her.

If you read the OP‘s update, you’d see that the teenager tried by moving her things and going to a different room. The five year followed. The parent of the five-year-old should have intervened and redirected her child to something else instead of assuming a teenager is going to babysit for free.

The teen also could have talked to OP or her own parent. Like my 7 year old talked to me.

Again, not hard to avoid hitting a kid.

The 15 year old is ALSO a kid, dummy.

My kid's babysitter is 15. You guys infantilizing teenagers are doing them no favors.

Children can be babysitters. Treating children like children isn’t infantilizing. This is a weird response considering how helicoptery parents are on here towards their adult kids.

2 year olds in daycare get told "no, we don't hit". Acting like a 15 year old is somehow less savvy (and gets presents for hitting kids) is treating a kid appropriately?

A 15 year old should know not to hit. But, expecting them to act like an adult and calling them crap is unacceptable.

Anonymous wrote:My boyfriend’s 15yo hit my 4yo nephew. He was annoying her and she lightly smacked his arm. It wasn’t hard, didn’t cause injury, but he cried.

My SIL (brothers wife) immediately yelled at my boyfriend, called him a lazy dad, and my boyfriend yelled back at her, said she was dramatic and couldn’t control her kid, they were going on back and fourth for a couple minutes. After we left, he took his daughter to dinner, went shopping, bought her dessert and a new watch.

I guess everyone was reacting in the moment, but I’m still trying to process whether this was handled well and what would have been more appropriate. How would you have handled it? Did they overact?

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Anonymous wrote:My 7 year old was just at my niece's birthday party with a bunch of 3 year olds and handled himself more maturely. Did some 3 year olds bother him and cross his boundaries? Absolutely. He said no and then asked for a break.

Did none of the people talking about kids touching stuff not have younger siblings? I'm about 8 years older than my youngest sibling and yes, she got into stuff and no, I wasn't allowed to smack her.

If you read the OP‘s update, you’d see that the teenager tried by moving her things and going to a different room. The five year followed. The parent of the five-year-old should have intervened and redirected her child to something else instead of assuming a teenager is going to babysit for free.

The teen also could have talked to OP or her own parent. Like my 7 year old talked to me.

Again, not hard to avoid hitting a kid.

The 15 year old is ALSO a kid, dummy.

My kid's babysitter is 15. You guys infantilizing teenagers are doing them no favors.

Children can be babysitters. Treating children like children isn’t infantilizing. This is a weird response considering how helicoptery parents are on here towards their adult kids.

2 year olds in daycare get told "no, we don't hit". Acting like a 15 year old is somehow less savvy (and gets presents for hitting kids) is treating a kid appropriately?

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Anonymous wrote:My 7 year old was just at my niece's birthday party with a bunch of 3 year olds and handled himself more maturely. Did some 3 year olds bother him and cross his boundaries? Absolutely. He said no and then asked for a break.

Did none of the people talking about kids touching stuff not have younger siblings? I'm about 8 years older than my youngest sibling and yes, she got into stuff and no, I wasn't allowed to smack her.

If you read the OP‘s update, you’d see that the teenager tried by moving her things and going to a different room. The five year followed. The parent of the five-year-old should have intervened and redirected her child to something else instead of assuming a teenager is going to babysit for free.

The teen also could have talked to OP or her own parent. Like my 7 year old talked to me.

Again, not hard to avoid hitting a kid.

The 15 year old is ALSO a kid, dummy.

My kid's babysitter is 15. You guys infantilizing teenagers are doing them no favors.

Children can be babysitters. Treating children like children isn’t infantilizing. This is a weird response considering how helicoptery parents are on here towards their adult kids.

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Anonymous wrote:My 7 year old was just at my niece's birthday party with a bunch of 3 year olds and handled himself more maturely. Did some 3 year olds bother him and cross his boundaries? Absolutely. He said no and then asked for a break.

Did none of the people talking about kids touching stuff not have younger siblings? I'm about 8 years older than my youngest sibling and yes, she got into stuff and no, I wasn't allowed to smack her.

If you read the OP‘s update, you’d see that the teenager tried by moving her things and going to a different room. The five year followed. The parent of the five-year-old should have intervened and redirected her child to something else instead of assuming a teenager is going to babysit for free.

The teen also could have talked to OP or her own parent. Like my 7 year old talked to me.

Again, not hard to avoid hitting a kid.

The 15 year old is ALSO a kid, dummy.

My kid's babysitter is 15. You guys infantilizing teenagers are doing them no favors.

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Anonymous wrote:My 7 year old was just at my niece's birthday party with a bunch of 3 year olds and handled himself more maturely. Did some 3 year olds bother him and cross his boundaries? Absolutely. He said no and then asked for a break.

Did none of the people talking about kids touching stuff not have younger siblings? I'm about 8 years older than my youngest sibling and yes, she got into stuff and no, I wasn't allowed to smack her.

If you read the OP‘s update, you’d see that the teenager tried by moving her things and going to a different room. The five year followed. The parent of the five-year-old should have intervened and redirected her child to something else instead of assuming a teenager is going to babysit for free.

The teen also could have talked to OP or her own parent. Like my 7 year old talked to me.

Again, not hard to avoid hitting a kid.

The 15 year old is ALSO a kid, dummy.

Right which is why none of us are suggesting that the 4 year old’s parents press charges or knock he’s lights out, which is how we respond if an unrelated adult assaulted our child.

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Anonymous wrote:Team Teen. I’m assuming the girl didn’t immediately resort to swatting him on the arm. And I’m assuming SIL wasn’t discipline fhim or keeping a proper eye on him.

Depending on how long you’ve been dating your boyfriend, these are quasi-family. Teens and toddlers will sometimes scuffle or not act like their best selves. Your SIL overreacted. And your boyfriend got pissed and met her energy.

Same.

A swat on the arm is hardly abuse. The mom wasn't controlling the 5-year old, letting him bug the 15-year old. A 15-year old will resort to a swat. Would the mom have preferred the teen verbally rip into the kid and let him have it, which is another 15-year old reaction?

I think the dad was rewarding the teen's sense of boundaries. Good on him, he sounds like a good dad. You don't want your young child annoying others, and you don't want teens resorting to any kind of harsh reaction. A swat is not a harsh reaction. The one who failed in this situation is the small child's mom who wouldn't control her young child and then over-reacted to the teen's mild swat.

Do you realize that there are options beyond these two?

Do YOU realize that there are options beyond *allowing* a teen to swat a five year old and calling her a “crap, trash” person?

You people are absolute morons. It’s mind-blowing.