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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know where IAS will be held in 2026?

Currently it is not being held. The one location fell through and no one has stepped up. If by next month there is no location it will not held this summer.

Where is this reported in minutes or a memo?

No minutes with NVSL. Team reps are supposed to communicate information. I mean, as of this moment, it is still happening but if there is no pool willing to host then it will not happen this year. Probably just virtual.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know where IAS will be held in 2026?

Currently it is not being held. The one location fell through and no one has stepped up. If by next month there is no location it will not held this summer.

Where is this reported in minutes or a memo?

Unlike PVS, minutes don’t seem to be available for NVSL. Not sure why there is no more transparency.

Your team rep can update you on what happened. It is not some state secret. The board basically said we need a pool to host. Most pools cannot sell the idea of closing a pool down for two days in summer to membership. Boards and HOAs won't allow it either.

If families want this event they should be lobbying their team reps and pool boards to host at your own pool. NVSL will help.

There are old threads where it is discussed pools that are able to host effectively and very few pools can run a meet that big. They lack real estate for teams to set up, parking or deck space.

Lincolnia Park was an amazing location for ASR. Tons of real estate and parking.

IAS is so much bigger and a ton of work with zero incentive for the host. No one wants to do the work.

OKM hosted and it was miserable. The teams were packed on their black top and it was muddy and tight - parking was a mess too (last two year's were great though).

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know where IAS will be held in 2026?

Currently it is not being held. The one location fell through and no one has stepped up. If by next month there is no location it will not held this summer.

Where is this reported in minutes or a memo?

Unlike PVS, minutes don’t seem to be available for NVSL. Not sure why there is no more transparency.

Your team rep can update you on what happened. It is not some state secret. The board basically said we need a pool to host. Most pools cannot sell the idea of closing a pool down for two days in summer to membership. Boards and HOAs won't allow it either.

If families want this event they should be lobbying their team reps and pool boards to host at your own pool. NVSL will help.

There are old threads where it is discussed pools that are able to host effectively and very few pools can run a meet that big. They lack real estate for teams to set up, parking or deck space.

Lincolnia Park was an amazing location for ASR. Tons of real estate and parking.

IAS is so much bigger and a ton of work with zero incentive for the host. No one wants to do the work.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know where IAS will be held in 2026?

Currently it is not being held. The one location fell through and no one has stepped up. If by next month there is no location it will not held this summer.

Where is this reported in minutes or a memo?

Unlike PVS, minutes don’t seem to be available for NVSL. Not sure why there is no more transparency.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know where IAS will be held in 2026?

Currently it is not being held. The one location fell through and no one has stepped up. If by next month there is no location it will not held this summer.

Who was going to hold IAS?

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know where IAS will be held in 2026?

Currently it is not being held. The one location fell through and no one has stepped up. If by next month there is no location it will not held this summer.

Where is this reported in minutes or a memo?

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know where IAS will be held in 2026?

Currently it is not being held. The one location fell through and no one has stepped up. If by next month there is no location it will not held this summer.

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know where IAS will be held in 2026?

No

Does anyone know where IAS will be held in 2026?

The team reps for Lincolnia Park don’t have club swimmers so probably didn't know the USA Swimming stance. For NVSL it is a change in position. Not all team reps have year round swimmers and without them, it is unsurprising that they would see this as a rule change for the NVSL (it is a change from previous years) without notice. Lincolnia is not in a competitive division. The fact that they’ve offered their well-suited pool multiple times to host a meet they rarely ever have a team to send to it is beyond generous. They aren’t being petty. They have strongly held convictions that it is okay for you to disagree with. But saying they should still host a meet that shuts down their pool for two days, is not great for the property and didn’t bring them much money at all last year- even though they probably won’t have any relay teams qualify for it is crazy. They are allowed to have a line for them and this is it. They actually wrote up a thoughtful email about their decision and distributed it to the team reps. Again, instead of acting like they are at fault (they actually had never agreed to host it this year- they took over last year in a pinch but it was a one year commitment to take over for a broken two year commitment for a team that lost a lot of money on it the prior year. This year they were in talks with NVSL about hosting again but hadn’t yet agreed to do so. So they didn’t break an agreement to host this year. They just said they didn’t want to host this year unless the usual process for changes to NVSL procedures was followed). Another team is welcome to step up and host. Lincolnia is under no obligation to do so and never had a commitment to in the first place.

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If the stance is that the NVSL position is intolerable and Lincolnia Park can't host a meet under it, then they should not host ANY meets under it and have a season of B meets. That's what values and principles are-- not just for when it is convenient.

i completely disagree with Lincolnia Park- they are wrong both in their interpretation of how the rule changed, and they are also dramatically wrong to oppose kids swimming with their own biological sexes. That being said, I disagree with the above. There is a difference between participating in the league, and hosting a league wide meet. If they feel they have been wronged by the league- its legitimate to say they won't host the league wide meet.

^this. ASR is a ton a work. They’ve done it for years when no one else steps up even though they send only a few relay teams. The amount of work to participation ratio is low. It’s completely fine with me that if they feel they’ve been wronged to not want to put in that amount of work.

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If the stance is that the NVSL position is intolerable and Lincolnia Park can't host a meet under it, then they should not host ANY meets under it and have a season of B meets. That's what values and principles are-- not just for when it is convenient.

i completely disagree with Lincolnia Park- they are wrong both in their interpretation of how the rule changed, and they are also dramatically wrong to oppose kids swimming with their own biological sexes. That being said, I disagree with the above. There is a difference between participating in the league, and hosting a league wide meet. If they feel they have been wronged by the league- its legitimate to say they won't host the league wide meet.

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Anonymous wrote:I disagree that they are incorrect but it’s not a problem if your team wants to host. It’s a huge lift. Your team is welcome to take it on instead of complaining.

Other than LP, who is complaining?

Just them, and it's quite hypocritical. If they truly felt this strongly about the issue, they would sit out their whole season in protest. I think they just regretted saying yes to hosting and found a way to weasel out.

Not from that pool but are nearby. They have hosted this event on and off for years and have done a fabulous job. They have no issue with hosting. Stop being a douche.

The douchey thing is making a commitment and then backing out while not actually feeling strongly enough about the "injustice" to back out of the whole season. You either mean it or you don't.

The stand is likely the team reps and pool board. We are all volunteers and believe it or not we put the kids first. Your statement says to me you don't get that part or do the minimum in volunteering to check a box.

These people do a LOT and yes they are making a stand but what kind of looney would punish all the kids? I guarantee these volunteers bend over backwards to try and create an amazing experience for not only their kid but yours as well.

Not hosting a league meet is an on point political statement. Not swimming a season would break hundreds of swimmers' hearts.

I understand that ad hominem attacks are tempting, but it really is no way to have a conversation, and I'd encourage you to refrain.

If the stance is that the NVSL position is intolerable and Lincolnia Park can't host a meet under it, then they should not host ANY meets under it and have a season of B meets. That's what values and principles are-- not just for when it is convenient.

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Anonymous wrote:I disagree that they are incorrect but it’s not a problem if your team wants to host. It’s a huge lift. Your team is welcome to take it on instead of complaining.

Other than LP, who is complaining?

Just them, and it's quite hypocritical. If they truly felt this strongly about the issue, they would sit out their whole season in protest. I think they just regretted saying yes to hosting and found a way to weasel out.

Not from that pool but are nearby. They have hosted this event on and off for years and have done a fabulous job. They have no issue with hosting. Stop being a douche.

The douchey thing is making a commitment and then backing out while not actually feeling strongly enough about the "injustice" to back out of the whole season. You either mean it or you don't.

The stand is likely the team reps and pool board. We are all volunteers and believe it or not we put the kids first. Your statement says to me you don't get that part or do the minimum in volunteering to check a box.

These people do a LOT and yes they are making a stand but what kind of looney would punish all the kids? I guarantee these volunteers bend over backwards to try and create an amazing experience for not only their kid but yours as well.

Not hosting a league meet is an on point political statement. Not swimming a season would break hundreds of swimmers' hearts.

I think those hearts broken are limited to those who make it to IAS or ASR. So yeah, in the hundreds, but that's a fraction of NVSL swim population.

As an NVSL parent and volunteer, I breathe a sigh of relief (and a smile) that there's no ASR and IAS. I don't begrudge others who like these meets.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I disagree that they are incorrect but it’s not a problem if your team wants to host. It’s a huge lift. Your team is welcome to take it on instead of complaining.

Other than LP, who is complaining?

Just them, and it's quite hypocritical. If they truly felt this strongly about the issue, they would sit out their whole season in protest. I think they just regretted saying yes to hosting and found a way to weasel out.

Not from that pool but are nearby. They have hosted this event on and off for years and have done a fabulous job. They have no issue with hosting. Stop being a douche.

The douchey thing is making a commitment and then backing out while not actually feeling strongly enough about the "injustice" to back out of the whole season. You either mean it or you don't.

The stand is likely the team reps and pool board. We are all volunteers and believe it or not we put the kids first. Your statement says to me you don't get that part or do the minimum in volunteering to check a box.

These people do a LOT and yes they are making a stand but what kind of looney would punish all the kids? I guarantee these volunteers bend over backwards to try and create an amazing experience for not only their kid but yours as well.

Not hosting a league meet is an on point political statement. Not swimming a season would break hundreds of swimmers' hearts.