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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate to see people judging the idea of transferring if being in a sorority is something a girl really wants to be a part of her college experience. Of course there are other ways to make friends, but sometimes girls just want Greek life. Mine was the girl who transferred a few years ago and found her place at another school- the school that had been her second choice university when the admissions process started. She received a bid from chapter at her initial school from a sorority that she tried to drop every round, not because they were “bottom tier,” but because it was too quirky for her and she really didn’t see herself in it. She felt like the ISC was trying to place her there just for that chapter to meet their quota for their pledge class. She didn’t feel a connection to those girls and felt like the conversations were awkward and forced with nothing in common.

OP- there’s so much hope for your daughter no matter what she decides to do, whether it’s transfer and rush again, go to the chapter that wants her and gives her a bid (and seeing how the pledge period goes- maybe it surprises her in a good way?), staying at the current uni and immersing herself in clubs, etc. The good news is that it sounds like she has an incredibly supportive parent who will support her no matter how she chooses to move forward.

That’s an utterly embarrassing story. I wonder how your daughter is going to handle when it’s time to interview for jobs.

Actually, she graduated already and is doing great! She was well prepared by the school that was the better fit for her, had the support of great friends (both in and out of the sorority) through the interviewing process, and her sorority life helped build connections during interviews/ helped with networking where she is now. It all worked out.

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Anonymous wrote:Previous poster-that is just a bunch of crap.
What you need to be is skinny, wealthy and a product of a high school that has girls already at the sorority. If you don't have the third then it doesn't matter who you are--the top sororities have their pledge classes determined before it starts.

Some of the most polished, lovely, and articulate girls I know are having a terrible rush. I'm watching this play out with my daughter and it's just insane.

This is only true at a big state school.
It's significantly LESS true at smaller private schools that are hard academic admits.

But let's be honest, you need to be skinny and wealthy to succeed in the professional world as well. There aren't that many poorly dressed and out of shape people in the c suites of the world. Non profits included.

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Anonymous wrote:Previous poster-that is just a bunch of crap.
What you need to be is skinny, wealthy and a product of a high school that has girls already at the sorority. If you don't have the third then it doesn't matter who you are--the top sororities have their pledge classes determined before it starts.

Some of the most polished, lovely, and articulate girls I know are having a terrible rush. I'm watching this play out with my daughter and it's just insane.

This is only true at a big state school.
It's significantly LESS true at smaller private schools that are hard academic admits.

But let's be honest, you need to be skinny and wealthy to succeed in the professional world as well. There aren't that many poorly dressed and out of shape people in the c suites of the world. Non profits included.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe we allow this ridiculous Greek system to persist. As if women need more things in life that pit us against other women on the basis of how we look and encourage a judgmental class system where some are "in" and some are "out." The fact that she wants to transfer because she didn't get into one of the "good" sororities speaks to how mentally unhealthy this whole system is.

Michigan is a huge school where anyone can find their people if they try. Most students at Michigan aren't even in sororities or fraternities. Greek life just isn't a big thing there. I'm sure she feels like her entire college experience will be ruined, but maybe it's time for some perspective. Give it time, find some other clubs or groups, and maybe she rushes next year. Choose the people who choose you!

Who is "we?"

The Greek system is fun!

Also, your disdain for its recruitment practices doesn't matter because you are wrong.

YOU LEARN REAL LIFE SKILLS IN RUSH!

If you are in business, law, lead an academic medical department that relies heavily on donations, any leadership position, and almost any other profession - you NEED THE SKILLS that help you succeed in rush (both as a rusher and. Rusher)

Good presentation skills
Engaging small talk
Choosing the right clothes for the right occasion
Networking
Emotional intelligence
Selling yourself and building a positive reputation for yourself.

Honestly, if you can't make it through rush, you probably aren't going to do very well in the professional world, especially not at the leadership level

Anonymous wrote:Previous poster-that is just a bunch of crap.
What you need to be is skinny, wealthy and a product of a high school that has girls already at the sorority. If you don't have the third then it doesn't matter who you are--the top sororities have their pledge classes determined before it starts.

Some of the most polished, lovely, and articulate girls I know are having a terrible rush. I'm watching this play out with my daughter and it's just insane.

Anonymous wrote:Previous poster-that is just a bunch of crap.
What you need to be is skinny, wealthy and a product of a high school that has girls already at the sorority. If you don't have the third then it doesn't matter who you are--the top sororities have their pledge classes determined before it starts.

Some of the most polished, lovely, and articulate girls I know are having a terrible rush. I'm watching this play out with my daughter and it's just insane.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe we allow this ridiculous Greek system to persist. As if women need more things in life that pit us against other women on the basis of how we look and encourage a judgmental class system where some are "in" and some are "out." The fact that she wants to transfer because she didn't get into one of the "good" sororities speaks to how mentally unhealthy this whole system is.

Michigan is a huge school where anyone can find their people if they try. Most students at Michigan aren't even in sororities or fraternities. Greek life just isn't a big thing there. I'm sure she feels like her entire college experience will be ruined, but maybe it's time for some perspective. Give it time, find some other clubs or groups, and maybe she rushes next year. Choose the people who choose you!

Who is "we?"

Anonymous wrote:NP - my daughter is a sophomore in a sorority that was not her first choice at Michigan and it is… fine. She has lots of friends in and outside of her house and the Greek scene. She’s involved in other activities and at this point kind of over the sorority life. Please encourage your daughter to just make the best of the situation- Michigan has so much else to offer!