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My kids are in the 2nd ranked elementary school in the entire state, but I guess that's bootyhole living?


Second in FARMs isnt the flex you thnk it is.


Sangster is 2nd in the state per US News and Report and is in Springfield.


I think the OP is referencing central Springfield and not West Springfield. Some others in this thread have differentiated between the two.

Yes, but when you look up these schools on the US News and Report list they only say Springfield, VA. In fact the address for these schools is Springfield, VA. Keene Mill Elementary is ranked at #19 and it is also in Springfield. This is out of 2,800 elementary schools in VA so I would hardly say that Springfield is a "booty hole". Great families in "Springfield".

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My kids are in the 2nd ranked elementary school in the entire state, but I guess that's bootyhole living?


Second in FARMs isnt the flex you thnk it is.


Sangster is 2nd in the state per US News and Report and is in Springfield.


I think the OP is referencing central Springfield and not West Springfield. Some others in this thread have differentiated between the two.

Yes, but when you look up these schools on the US News and Report list they only say Springfield, VA. In fact the address for these schools is Springfield, VA. Keene Mill Elementary is ranked at #19 and it is also in Springfield. This is out of 2,800 elementary schools in VA so I would hardly say that Springfield is a "booty hole". Great families in "Springfield".

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My kids are in the 2nd ranked elementary school in the entire state, but I guess that's bootyhole living?


Second in FARMs isnt the flex you thnk it is.


Sangster is 2nd in the state per US News and Report and is in Springfield.


I think the OP is referencing central Springfield and not West Springfield. Some others in this thread have differentiated between the two.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids are in the 2nd ranked elementary school in the entire state, but I guess that's bootyhole living?

Second in FARMs isnt the flex you thnk it is.

Sangster is 2nd in the state per US News and Report and is in Springfield.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids are in the 2nd ranked elementary school in the entire state, but I guess that's bootyhole living?

Second in FARMs isnt the flex you thnk it is.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish I moved there instead of my snooty neighborhood. It's diverse, has much cheaper housing, is relatively convenient, and has good public schools. There are some interesting shops and restaurants, particularly ethnic ones. Is it a suburban hellscape? Yes. But so is lots of NoVa.

Good public schools?!

Is West Springfield bad in your mind?

Yes. I would never send my kids to a Springfield anything school.

Goid.

WSHS is one of the most in demand schools in FCPS, second only to Chantilly.

What? You think Chantilly and West Springfield HS are more "in demand" than Langley? Than Mclean? Than TJ lol? Ok. Maybe for everyone with a well-below-DMV-average HHI or something? Because you are making things up, here.

The growth of those two schools over the past 5-10 years, particularly Chantilly, speaks for itself.

They are very much the most in demand high schools in FCPS right now.

Having worked in the schools over there I can tell you that kids are not wandering a mile to go into the strip club. And strip club attendees are not coming onto school property.

Kids might actually be in more danger in people's homes in McLean for all I know. I mean, I'm sure Epstein did not live in the bootyhole area of NYC.

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Springfield encompasses 4 zip codes (22150, 22151, 22152, and 22153). It is over 28 square miles. I think the OP is mainly thinking about 22150, which is central Springfield. Central Springfield can look daunting and sprawling and old near the 495/395 interchange. It is full of post WWII housing. We should count our blessings that this area exists. We need all kinds of areas and people to make the DMV function. That housing still functions for people. People like to dismiss Lewis and Edison high schools, but quite honestly many people have gone on to pretty good lives after getting their starts there. Sometimes adversity will make you tough and give you the drive to succeed. I would not dismiss people just because they live or lived there. Ask me how I know.

Honestly?

The board of supervisors need to find a way to update the zoning laws to eliminate that Paper Moon Strip Club and the other adult video store from central Springfield.

Neither of those places should be allowed to exist within walking distance of homes, apartment complexes, Lewis high school and multiple elementary schools. Or if they won't fix the zoning issue that allows a strip club adjacent to schools and homes, they need to severely regulate and curtail the operating hours so it closes during normal daytime business hours.

The closest elementary school is three miles from Papermoon. Lewis is about five miles. That's hardly adjacent. How far does it need to be?

Not in a neighborhood shopping area next to Talbots and across from baskin robbins, a few minutes walk from several residential neighborhoods full of children and close to nearby schools.

Move it to some urban industrial park full of car repair shops or next to a truck port in some isolated rural area 10-20 miles from schools and homes.

Get that trashy strip club and adult video store out of central Springfield, so the residents can have a nicer community, not a seedy trashy strip joint that is packed at 10AM and 2PM.

Put in some nice apartment housing and retail space.

Isn't the Whole Foods right there, too?

Yes.

They are trying to develop that area to make it more functional and to improve the general area.

But as long as the main central landmark of Central Springfield is literally a giant all hours strip club and a separate XXX adult video store within walking distance to several area schools, then there is no amount of development that will make that area liveable.

Now tell me how many vape shops are in that area.

And that applies to about the entire country now that retail has died.

ding ding ding! Not a good barometer

But a strip club around a mile from multiple schools and family neighborhoods is a good indicator that something is wrong with the zoning.

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Springfield encompasses 4 zip codes (22150, 22151, 22152, and 22153). It is over 28 square miles. I think the OP is mainly thinking about 22150, which is central Springfield. Central Springfield can look daunting and sprawling and old near the 495/395 interchange. It is full of post WWII housing. We should count our blessings that this area exists. We need all kinds of areas and people to make the DMV function. That housing still functions for people. People like to dismiss Lewis and Edison high schools, but quite honestly many people have gone on to pretty good lives after getting their starts there. Sometimes adversity will make you tough and give you the drive to succeed. I would not dismiss people just because they live or lived there. Ask me how I know.

Honestly?

The board of supervisors need to find a way to update the zoning laws to eliminate that Paper Moon Strip Club and the other adult video store from central Springfield.

Neither of those places should be allowed to exist within walking distance of homes, apartment complexes, Lewis high school and multiple elementary schools. Or if they won't fix the zoning issue that allows a strip club adjacent to schools and homes, they need to severely regulate and curtail the operating hours so it closes during normal daytime business hours.

The closest elementary school is three miles from Papermoon. Lewis is about five miles. That's hardly adjacent. How far does it need to be?

Not in a neighborhood shopping area next to Talbots and across from baskin robbins, a few minutes walk from several residential neighborhoods full of children and close to nearby schools.

Move it to some urban industrial park full of car repair shops or next to a truck port in some isolated rural area 10-20 miles from schools and homes.

Get that trashy strip club and adult video store out of central Springfield, so the residents can have a nicer community, not a seedy trashy strip joint that is packed at 10AM and 2PM.

Put in some nice apartment housing and retail space.

Isn't the Whole Foods right there, too?

Yes.

They are trying to develop that area to make it more functional and to improve the general area.

But as long as the main central landmark of Central Springfield is literally a giant all hours strip club and a separate XXX adult video store within walking distance to several area schools, then there is no amount of development that will make that area liveable.

Now tell me how many vape shops are in that area.

And that applies to about the entire country now that retail has died.

ding ding ding! Not a good barometer

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Springfield encompasses 4 zip codes (22150, 22151, 22152, and 22153). It is over 28 square miles. I think the OP is mainly thinking about 22150, which is central Springfield. Central Springfield can look daunting and sprawling and old near the 495/395 interchange. It is full of post WWII housing. We should count our blessings that this area exists. We need all kinds of areas and people to make the DMV function. That housing still functions for people. People like to dismiss Lewis and Edison high schools, but quite honestly many people have gone on to pretty good lives after getting their starts there. Sometimes adversity will make you tough and give you the drive to succeed. I would not dismiss people just because they live or lived there. Ask me how I know.

Honestly?

The board of supervisors need to find a way to update the zoning laws to eliminate that Paper Moon Strip Club and the other adult video store from central Springfield.

Neither of those places should be allowed to exist within walking distance of homes, apartment complexes, Lewis high school and multiple elementary schools. Or if they won't fix the zoning issue that allows a strip club adjacent to schools and homes, they need to severely regulate and curtail the operating hours so it closes during normal daytime business hours.

The closest elementary school is three miles from Papermoon. Lewis is about five miles. That's hardly adjacent. How far does it need to be?

Not in a neighborhood shopping area next to Talbots and across from baskin robbins, a few minutes walk from several residential neighborhoods full of children and close to nearby schools.

Move it to some urban industrial park full of car repair shops or next to a truck port in some isolated rural area 10-20 miles from schools and homes.

Get that trashy strip club and adult video store out of central Springfield, so the residents can have a nicer community, not a seedy trashy strip joint that is packed at 10AM and 2PM.

Put in some nice apartment housing and retail space.

Isn't the Whole Foods right there, too?

Yes.

They are trying to develop that area to make it more functional and to improve the general area.

But as long as the main central landmark of Central Springfield is literally a giant all hours strip club and a separate XXX adult video store within walking distance to several area schools, then there is no amount of development that will make that area liveable.

Now tell me how many vape shops are in that area.

And that applies to about the entire country now that retail has died.