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Anonymous wrote: Lewis-George is about as left wing as they come. She will keep schools as is. She will adamantly oppose raising academic standards or flunking kids or creating admissions standards for some schools. People like her see all that as racist because it will disproportionately hurt black kids.

Source? Or just your perception based on....? She is a Walls graduate and sounds like she had a positive experience so I'm curious where you are coming from other the progressive label.

DP. People keep saying she's DC's Mamdani (based on her DSA affiliation and leaked outreach planning). Mamdani came out against some G&T policies and has talked about ceding some mayoral control. He's also a graduate of Bronx Science, a selective high school.

The left despises G&T programs. If you support G&T programs you will not work for JLG, should she get elected mayor.

Honestly, drop the label and just make sure there's some differentiation. I think we've tried it for long enough to know that "honors for all" isn't working. And yet....

The baby got thrown out with the bathwater with gifted and talented. The problem with G&T is that some parents (guess which ones) will game the system to get their kids into it/bias in the selection process. I for one completely understand why DCPS will not do G&T. The Ward 3 parents are insufferable enough, can you imagine?

That's OK. That happens at every level (rich parents get tutors, hire someone to write admission essays, etc). That is NOT a reason to not have high quality educational offerings (because too many people will want them???)

Also, it's satisfying to see Ward 3 parents who think they have gifted because bc they have privileged kids realize their kids don't meet the testing threshold.

I’m with you on the second paragraph. But I can see why DCPS central office folks don’t want to deal with those parents. Creating these high quality offerings will not help enough of the kids that they want to help. The juice won’t be worth the squeeze for them.

Not to defend a central office I despise but just watching what happened with Lafayette and the redshirting issue I kind of understand their hesitancy on programs which will almost solely benefit privileged parents with a constituency of privileged parents who will literally sue for their privilege.

DC has mostly escaped this but at a certain point, people have to make a decision about nice things. If some people who advocate for their kids get nice things they maybe shouldn’t (and maybe some kids would get in if their parents cared but they don’t so the kids don’t get the thing), does that mean no one gets nice things? That’s the “keep [insert city here] a craphole” argument and it won in Philly. It hasn’t really won here, but it does keep gifted and talented out of DC schools.

I think the benefits of streaming kids according to their tested abilities far, far outweigh the costs. Kids don’t get held back by a few laggards. Kids who are behind get put in a stream that can meet them where they are. Everyone benefits academically from this.

There are some costs. A lot of kids parents just don’t care (in a revealed, not stated preference way). And you can’t expect 3rd-5th graders to figure it out for themselves. So the kids whose parents don’t care will disproportionately not make it into the more advanced streams. DC has decided that’s not worth it.

This. A few parents complaining or not stepping up is not justification for failing to implement programs that would help most students learn.

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Anonymous wrote: Lewis-George is about as left wing as they come. She will keep schools as is. She will adamantly oppose raising academic standards or flunking kids or creating admissions standards for some schools. People like her see all that as racist because it will disproportionately hurt black kids.

Source? Or just your perception based on....? She is a Walls graduate and sounds like she had a positive experience so I'm curious where you are coming from other the progressive label.

DP. People keep saying she's DC's Mamdani (based on her DSA affiliation and leaked outreach planning). Mamdani came out against some G&T policies and has talked about ceding some mayoral control. He's also a graduate of Bronx Science, a selective high school.

The left despises G&T programs. If you support G&T programs you will not work for JLG, should she get elected mayor.

Honestly, drop the label and just make sure there's some differentiation. I think we've tried it for long enough to know that "honors for all" isn't working. And yet....

The baby got thrown out with the bathwater with gifted and talented. The problem with G&T is that some parents (guess which ones) will game the system to get their kids into it/bias in the selection process. I for one completely understand why DCPS will not do G&T. The Ward 3 parents are insufferable enough, can you imagine?

That's OK. That happens at every level (rich parents get tutors, hire someone to write admission essays, etc). That is NOT a reason to not have high quality educational offerings (because too many people will want them???)

Also, it's satisfying to see Ward 3 parents who think they have gifted because bc they have privileged kids realize their kids don't meet the testing threshold.

I’m with you on the second paragraph. But I can see why DCPS central office folks don’t want to deal with those parents. Creating these high quality offerings will not help enough of the kids that they want to help. The juice won’t be worth the squeeze for them.

Not to defend a central office I despise but just watching what happened with Lafayette and the redshirting issue I kind of understand their hesitancy on programs which will almost solely benefit privileged parents with a constituency of privileged parents who will literally sue for their privilege.

DC has mostly escaped this but at a certain point, people have to make a decision about nice things. If some people who advocate for their kids get nice things they maybe shouldn’t (and maybe some kids would get in if their parents cared but they don’t so the kids don’t get the thing), does that mean no one gets nice things? That’s the “keep [insert city here] a craphole” argument and it won in Philly. It hasn’t really won here, but it does keep gifted and talented out of DC schools.

I think the benefits of streaming kids according to their tested abilities far, far outweigh the costs. Kids don’t get held back by a few laggards. Kids who are behind get put in a stream that can meet them where they are. Everyone benefits academically from this.

There are some costs. A lot of kids parents just don’t care (in a revealed, not stated preference way). And you can’t expect 3rd-5th graders to figure it out for themselves. So the kids whose parents don’t care will disproportionately not make it into the more advanced streams. DC has decided that’s not worth it.

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Anonymous wrote: Lewis-George is about as left wing as they come. She will keep schools as is. She will adamantly oppose raising academic standards or flunking kids or creating admissions standards for some schools. People like her see all that as racist because it will disproportionately hurt black kids.

Source? Or just your perception based on....? She is a Walls graduate and sounds like she had a positive experience so I'm curious where you are coming from other the progressive label.

DP. People keep saying she's DC's Mamdani (based on her DSA affiliation and leaked outreach planning). Mamdani came out against some G&T policies and has talked about ceding some mayoral control. He's also a graduate of Bronx Science, a selective high school.

The left despises G&T programs. If you support G&T programs you will not work for JLG, should she get elected mayor.

Honestly, drop the label and just make sure there's some differentiation. I think we've tried it for long enough to know that "honors for all" isn't working. And yet....

The baby got thrown out with the bathwater with gifted and talented. The problem with G&T is that some parents (guess which ones) will game the system to get their kids into it/bias in the selection process. I for one completely understand why DCPS will not do G&T. The Ward 3 parents are insufferable enough, can you imagine?

That's OK. That happens at every level (rich parents get tutors, hire someone to write admission essays, etc). That is NOT a reason to not have high quality educational offerings (because too many people will want them???)

Also, it's satisfying to see Ward 3 parents who think they have gifted because bc they have privileged kids realize their kids don't meet the testing threshold.

I’m with you on the second paragraph. But I can see why DCPS central office folks don’t want to deal with those parents. Creating these high quality offerings will not help enough of the kids that they want to help. The juice won’t be worth the squeeze for them.

Not to defend a central office I despise but just watching what happened with Lafayette and the redshirting issue I kind of understand their hesitancy on programs which will almost solely benefit privileged parents with a constituency of privileged parents who will literally sue for their privilege.