Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why this is so difficult for some men to understand.
Feminism is about equal rights, not equal outcomes.
I want the *right* to choose who I date, who I marry, who has access to my money, the right to choose what I do with my money, the right to get divorced for any reason, and the right to do what I want with my own body.
That does not mean I want an equal outcome between me and the man I date. I just want the same rights as him.
So I choose to date men who are generous with their money. That is my right. Just like it is your right to only date women who split things 50/50. We both have the right to choose what we want. If we end up single and alone because nobody wants that, well, everyone is exercising their rights freely and that’s what happens. None of us are owed a partner.
If you complain “that’s not fair!” then you are trying to take away my right to choose who I date or if I want to date at all. I get to make those choices for myself, the same as you. And I would absolutely rather be single than deal with some dusty man who wants to split everything 50/50. I’d rather use than money to go out with my girlfriends.
If this is true, then why are so many of the feminist complaints and talking points about "equalizing" outcomes between men and women?
Where do you see that?
Men and women will never be equal because there are innate differences.
That doesn’t mean that only men are deserving of rights.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why this is so difficult for some men to understand.
Feminism is about equal rights, not equal outcomes.
I want the *right* to choose who I date, who I marry, who has access to my money, the right to choose what I do with my money, the right to get divorced for any reason, and the right to do what I want with my own body.
That does not mean I want an equal outcome between me and the man I date. I just want the same rights as him.
So I choose to date men who are generous with their money. That is my right. Just like it is your right to only date women who split things 50/50. We both have the right to choose what we want. If we end up single and alone because nobody wants that, well, everyone is exercising their rights freely and that’s what happens. None of us are owed a partner.
If you complain “that’s not fair!” then you are trying to take away my right to choose who I date or if I want to date at all. I get to make those choices for myself, the same as you. And I would absolutely rather be single than deal with some dusty man who wants to split everything 50/50. I’d rather use than money to go out with my girlfriends.
If this is true, then why are so many of the feminist complaints and talking points about "equalizing" outcomes between men and women?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am dating my recent gf of 6 months and she is 42. Overall, talks a big game that she is a feminist and women's rights etc but never go 50-50 on anything. I am very liberal and progressive and agree with most of the things she says about women etc but don't understand why her walk is different than her talk. I like her and have no problem spending $s as I make a lot more than her but she sometime acts like an entitled person and wants man to take care of her like in traditional setting. Not only her, but she is also teaching her young daughter to not go 50-50 on anything with her bf and counts a small thing such as driving to see him for 50 miles as enough contribution that he should take care of all the expenses for the weekend such as hotel, food, going out for drinks, etc. Is she really a feminist if her beliefs and values are in such a way that she can't even afford her own self?
You're dating someone with a child. Where is the father?
Op here. Her kids are older and in college or recently out of it. Kids father is around and have a good relationship with the daughters but my gf likes to get extra involved and run quickly to help her grown kids and expects me to support unnecessary demands which I refuse. She constantly tracks their location and gets very obsessive with what they are doing. On top of her expecting financial support, she gets very pushy with her demands and looks like it is time for me to break-up with her. This is not what I expected in my relationship with her and I am going to end it before I get more resentful or it becomes toxic.
Anonymous wrote:She just isn’t hot enough to be pulling this kind of behavior. Men will tolerate a lot if a woman fits their ideal or hotness.
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why this is so difficult for some men to understand.
Feminism is about equal rights, not equal outcomes.
I want the *right* to choose who I date, who I marry, who has access to my money, the right to choose what I do with my money, the right to get divorced for any reason, and the right to do what I want with my own body.
That does not mean I want an equal outcome between me and the man I date. I just want the same rights as him.
So I choose to date men who are generous with their money. That is my right. Just like it is your right to only date women who split things 50/50. We both have the right to choose what we want. If we end up single and alone because nobody wants that, well, everyone is exercising their rights freely and that’s what happens. None of us are owed a partner.
If you complain “that’s not fair!” then you are trying to take away my right to choose who I date or if I want to date at all. I get to make those choices for myself, the same as you. And I would absolutely rather be single than deal with some dusty man who wants to split everything 50/50. I’d rather use than money to go out with my girlfriends.
Anonymous wrote:OP is in his 40s and still hasn’t realized that women always want men who will protect and provide. Even the women who also want to have a job and support rights for women.
Anyway, the girlfriend does sound like an idiot but so does he frankly.
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why this is so difficult for some men to understand.
Feminism is about equal rights, not equal outcomes.
I want the *right* to choose who I date, who I marry, who has access to my money, the right to choose what I do with my money, the right to get divorced for any reason, and the right to do what I want with my own body.
That does not mean I want an equal outcome between me and the man I date. I just want the same rights as him.
So I choose to date men who are generous with their money. That is my right. Just like it is your right to only date women who split things 50/50. We both have the right to choose what we want. If we end up single and alone because nobody wants that, well, everyone is exercising their rights freely and that’s what happens. None of us are owed a partner.
If you complain “that’s not fair!” then you are trying to take away my right to choose who I date or if I want to date at all. I get to make those choices for myself, the same as you. And I would absolutely rather be single than deal with some dusty man who wants to split everything 50/50. I’d rather use than money to go out with my girlfriends.
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why this is so difficult for some men to understand.
Feminism is about equal rights, not equal outcomes.
I want the *right* to choose who I date, who I marry, who has access to my money, the right to choose what I do with my money, the right to get divorced for any reason, and the right to do what I want with my own body.
That does not mean I want an equal outcome between me and the man I date. I just want the same rights as him.
So I choose to date men who are generous with their money. That is my right. Just like it is your right to only date women who split things 50/50. We both have the right to choose what we want. If we end up single and alone because nobody wants that, well, everyone is exercising their rights freely and that’s what happens. None of us are owed a partner.
If you complain “that’s not fair!” then you are trying to take away my right to choose who I date or if I want to date at all. I get to make those choices for myself, the same as you. And I would absolutely rather be single than deal with some dusty man who wants to split everything 50/50. I’d rather use than money to go out with my girlfriends.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am dating my recent gf of 6 months and she is 42. Overall, talks a big game that she is a feminist and women's rights etc but never go 50-50 on anything. I am very liberal and progressive and agree with most of the things she says about women etc but don't understand why her walk is different than her talk. I like her and have no problem spending $s as I make a lot more than her but she sometime acts like an entitled person and wants man to take care of her like in traditional setting. Not only her, but she is also teaching her young daughter to not go 50-50 on anything with her bf and counts a small thing such as driving to see him for 50 miles as enough contribution that he should take care of all the expenses for the weekend such as hotel, food, going out for drinks, etc. Is she really a feminist if her beliefs and values are in such a way that she can't even afford her own self?
You're dating someone with a child. Where is the father?
Op here. Her kids are older and in college or recently out of it. Kids father is around and have a good relationship with the daughters but my gf likes to get extra involved and run quickly to help her grown kids and expects me to support unnecessary demands which I refuse. She constantly tracks their location and gets very obsessive with what they are doing. On top of her expecting financial support, she gets very pushy with her demands and looks like it is time for me to break-up with her. This is not what I expected in my relationship with her and I am going to end it before I get more resentful or it becomes toxic.
Op, it is time to end if you are already seeing red flags. She is a gold-digger and that too bad kind. lol
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am dating my recent gf of 6 months and she is 42. Overall, talks a big game that she is a feminist and women's rights etc but never go 50-50 on anything. I am very liberal and progressive and agree with most of the things she says about women etc but don't understand why her walk is different than her talk. I like her and have no problem spending $s as I make a lot more than her but she sometime acts like an entitled person and wants man to take care of her like in traditional setting. Not only her, but she is also teaching her young daughter to not go 50-50 on anything with her bf and counts a small thing such as driving to see him for 50 miles as enough contribution that he should take care of all the expenses for the weekend such as hotel, food, going out for drinks, etc. Is she really a feminist if her beliefs and values are in such a way that she can't even afford her own self?
Ummm...that's because feminism is a bs philosophy. Men and women have very defined roles no matter what these liberal simps like to go on about.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am dating my recent gf of 6 months and she is 42. Overall, talks a big game that she is a feminist and women's rights etc but never go 50-50 on anything. I am very liberal and progressive and agree with most of the things she says about women etc but don't understand why her walk is different than her talk. I like her and have no problem spending $s as I make a lot more than her but she sometime acts like an entitled person and wants man to take care of her like in traditional setting. Not only her, but she is also teaching her young daughter to not go 50-50 on anything with her bf and counts a small thing such as driving to see him for 50 miles as enough contribution that he should take care of all the expenses for the weekend such as hotel, food, going out for drinks, etc. Is she really a feminist if her beliefs and values are in such a way that she can't even afford her own self?
You're dating someone with a child. Where is the father?
Op here. Her kids are older and in college or recently out of it. Kids father is around and have a good relationship with the daughters but my gf likes to get extra involved and run quickly to help her grown kids and expects me to support unnecessary demands which I refuse. She constantly tracks their location and gets very obsessive with what they are doing. On top of her expecting financial support, she gets very pushy with her demands and looks like it is time for me to break-up with her. This is not what I expected in my relationship with her and I am going to end it before I get more resentful or it becomes toxic.
Anonymous wrote:I am dating my recent gf of 6 months and she is 42. Overall, talks a big game that she is a feminist and women's rights etc but never go 50-50 on anything. I am very liberal and progressive and agree with most of the things she says about women etc but don't understand why her walk is different than her talk. I like her and have no problem spending $s as I make a lot more than her but she sometime acts like an entitled person and wants man to take care of her like in traditional setting. Not only her, but she is also teaching her young daughter to not go 50-50 on anything with her bf and counts a small thing such as driving to see him for 50 miles as enough contribution that he should take care of all the expenses for the weekend such as hotel, food, going out for drinks, etc. Is she really a feminist if her beliefs and values are in such a way that she can't even afford her own self?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am dating my recent gf of 6 months and she is 42. Overall, talks a big game that she is a feminist and women's rights etc but never go 50-50 on anything. I am very liberal and progressive and agree with most of the things she says about women etc but don't understand why her walk is different than her talk. I like her and have no problem spending $s as I make a lot more than her but she sometime acts like an entitled person and wants man to take care of her like in traditional setting. Not only her, but she is also teaching her young daughter to not go 50-50 on anything with her bf and counts a small thing such as driving to see him for 50 miles as enough contribution that he should take care of all the expenses for the weekend such as hotel, food, going out for drinks, etc. Is she really a feminist if her beliefs and values are in such a way that she can't even afford her own self?
You're dating someone with a child. Where is the father?
Op here. Her kids are older and in college or recently out of it. Kids father is around and have a good relationship with the daughters but my gf likes to get extra involved and run quickly to help her grown kids and expects me to support unnecessary demands which I refuse. She constantly tracks their location and gets very obsessive with what they are doing. On top of her expecting financial support, she gets very pushy with her demands and looks like it is time for me to break-up with her. This is not what I expected in my relationship with her and I am going to end it before I get more resentful or it becomes toxic.