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Anonymous wrote:No, of course not. This is fraud. She has a lot of nerve to ask a co-worker! I have heard of people using grandparents' addresses, but this is next level!

Right!! That is next level brazen fraud. I’m tempted to ask what the ethnicity or background or even religion is here…

Can you explain why you think this is brazen fraud? Fraud is to obtain something of value by deceptive means, but the school board members are on record as purportedly believing that the high schools are all the same quality and fungible (that’s how they try to sell the boundary changes to families). Just not sure what thing of value is obtained through this. Different story if the person lives outside of Fairfax.

Are you unfamiliar with public schools? How can you not know this is fraud and policed by the school district. Everyone knows this. That’s why proof of residence is sometimes requested. We had to show proof of property tax payments to Langley

I’m very familiar with public schools.

What I’m pointing out is that there is no financial or personal gain in the eyes of FCPS. If i were arguing on behalf of an in-county family charged for using a fake address, exhibit A in our filings would be a compilation of the school board members statements repeatedly saying all the FCPS schools are the same quality, thus no personal gain in going to Langley. The gain is an element of the fraud claim.

I understand that you believe school quality differs, I do too. Most people believe that in fact. But when the system pretends that they are the same, there is a tailor-made defense to allegations of fraud.

Btw, the members make those claims in support of the comprehensive boundary review. If they claimed otherwise then it would be an admission that the boundary review will result in many families getting screwed over.

P.S. I’m confident that your last sentence is incorrect and that you didn’t need to show proof of tax payments to Langley, whatever that means.

They won’t be able to play any sports - there are all sorts of new VHSL verifications.

Your coworker is able to do the right way, but maybe she doesn’t want to, because she doesn’t want to leave her comfort bigger and nicer home.
I moved and left my comfort place, it was costly and downgrade drastically but my kids get what they need and that is my priority.

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Anonymous wrote:No, of course not. This is fraud. She has a lot of nerve to ask a co-worker! I have heard of people using grandparents' addresses, but this is next level!

Right!! That is next level brazen fraud. I’m tempted to ask what the ethnicity or background or even religion is here…

Can you explain why you think this is brazen fraud? Fraud is to obtain something of value by deceptive means, but the school board members are on record as purportedly believing that the high schools are all the same quality and fungible (that’s how they try to sell the boundary changes to families). Just not sure what thing of value is obtained through this. Different story if the person lives outside of Fairfax.

Are you unfamiliar with public schools? How can you not know this is fraud and policed by the school district. Everyone knows this. That’s why proof of residence is sometimes requested. We had to show proof of property tax payments to Langley

Anonymous wrote:Totally fine in my book. All the virtue signaling here makes me barf. OP, just keep it to yourself if you want to help a mom out trying to get the kids into a better public school funded by the same pot of money. This is a tale as old as time.

Seriously. So many people who claim to be so progressive and caring yet think it is perfectly fine for poor parents not to have access to better quality schools.

It reminds me of one of my favorite books which I first read at age 12, A Tree Grows In Brooklyn, published in 1943. It is a semi-biographical novel set in Brooklyn between 1900-1920.

Francie, the narrator describes her elementary school: Three thousand children crowded into this ugly brutalizing school that had facilities for only one thousand. She has to share a desk made for one student. She thought she'd come home from school that first day knowing how to read and write. But all she came home with was a bloody nose gained by an older child slamming her head down on the stone rim of the water trough. The children have lice, the teachers aren't very good, but "FRANCIE liked school in spite of all the meanness, cruelty, and unhappiness."

Then one day she goes on a really long walk and sees really nice school. "Francie was out walking one Saturday in October and she chanced on an unfamiliar neighborhood. Here were no tenements or raucous shabby stores... She walked on further and came to a little old school. Its old bricks glowed garnet in the late afternoon sun. There was no fence around the school yard and the school grounds were grass and not cement". She takes her dad to see the school and tells him she really wants to go to a school like that. So her father finds a nearby house and copies down the address and he tells Francie,

"You know that what we are going to do is wrong?"
"Is it, Papa?" she replies

"But it's a wrong to gain a bigger good."

"Like a white lie?"

"Like a lie that helps someone out. So you must make up for the wrong by being twice as good. You must
never be bad or absent or late. You must never do anything to make them send a letter home through the mails."

"I'll always, be good, Papa, if I can go to that school."

So she goes and find out how much better the school is because it isn't run down, the children aren't brutalized and so are much nicer to each other, the whole atmosphere is really pleasant so she willingly continues to walk 48 blocks each day.

How is it fair poor and middle class families are shut out of PUBLIC school pyramids that are so much better than the schools in their neighborhoods?

Anonymous wrote:Totally fine in my book. All the virtue signaling here makes me barf. OP, just keep it to yourself if you want to help a mom out trying to get the kids into a better public school funded by the same pot of money. This is a tale as old as time.

Committing fraud is not virtue signaling. Other strings, perhaps, but not here. Barf.

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Anonymous wrote:No, of course not. This is fraud. She has a lot of nerve to ask a co-worker! I have heard of people using grandparents' addresses, but this is next level!

Right!! That is next level brazen fraud. I’m tempted to ask what the ethnicity or background or even religion is here…

Can you explain why you think this is brazen fraud? Fraud is to obtain something of value by deceptive means, but the school board members are on record as purportedly believing that the high schools are all the same quality and fungible (that’s how they try to sell the boundary changes to families). Just not sure what thing of value is obtained through this. Different story if the person lives outside of Fairfax.

Anonymous wrote:Totally fine in my book. All the virtue signaling here makes me barf. OP, just keep it to yourself if you want to help a mom out trying to get the kids into a better public school funded by the same pot of money. This is a tale as old as time.

What about the other hundreds of students at that school? Is it not fine for them, too? Are they less deserving because they follow the rules? But you say it’s fine to reward only those who cheat? Great message.

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Anonymous wrote:This is fraud and you shouldn't do it for a lot of reasons, including that only total a*holes do stuff like this BUT...

They don't check. This person would make a fake lease or document and FCPS admitted during the boundary meetings that they don't check and have no plans to ever check.

Other students and parents DO tell the admin bc the student is taking spots-spots in sports, plays, band, etc. Kids find out and administrators get told. A family was kicked out mid year for doing it- all their kids gone- mid everything.

Admin of that school or admin of FCPS? I have a feeling this stuff is rampant and the school must already know. In our school it must be very clear to all the staff when the family is not in the military but kids are driven to school every day year round with MD or DC license plates. Way too high tolerance for fraud and no consequences.

Anonymous wrote:No, of course not. This is fraud. She has a lot of nerve to ask a co-worker! I have heard of people using grandparents' addresses, but this is next level!

Right!! That is next level brazen fraud. I’m tempted to ask what the ethnicity or background or even religion is here…

Totally fine in my book. All the virtue signaling here makes me barf. OP, just keep it to yourself if you want to help a mom out trying to get the kids into a better public school funded by the same pot of money. This is a tale as old as time.

I would not want my kids going to a dangerous, bad-academic-quality, school like Justice.

Would you want your kids to try to learn in that environment?

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Anonymous wrote:It's interesting how so many liberal people don't want the downtrodden to have access to their better quality schools even when it is in the SAME county and SAME school district.

These are often the same people who think there should be no more affirmative action because everyone now has the same opportunities and same access to quality education if the parent only put forth some effort. Yet when a parent tries to do that people are appalled.

OP it is really easy now to change an address on a bill online like a medical record, print it out for residency purposes and change it back.

So I would be cagey about saying yes through a text or email or anything written, but saying verbally if mail came to your house that was addressed to your co-worker you wouldn't send it back to the school and mark it person doesn't live here. And that many people who do that end up getting a PO Box so mail is sent to the PO Box.

I would bet that the people committing residency fraud are people who wanted the bigger house at a cheap price and bought in a HS pyramid that they are not happy with. They are looking for a way to move their kid to a school they prefer without having to buy a more expensive, smaller house at the school they want to go to.

I would have no problem supporting FARMs kids being allowed to opt-in to a different HS with transportation. I have no problem with that. I don’t think parents who are not FARMs, choosing to live in an area, and then trying to find someone to pretend that they live in Langley boundaries to go to HS there. Pupil place if you want to attend the school.

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The problem is Justice HS has far more FARMS and BIPOC kids than Langley. Can’t you see the OP’s co-worker is desperate for her kids to get away from the BIPOCS and FARMS?

Why shouldn’t the OP help her friend get away from people like that? What’s the problem?

DP. While your attempt at trolling is pretty lame, just thought it was worth pointing out that Langley is majority minority. That often gets lost in this discussion.

Swing and a miss, PP. but you already knew that.

The Langley BIPOCs mostly benefit from unearned Asian/ Indian privilege.

The Justice BIPOCs are true URMs: Latinx youth from under-resourced communities.

The extreme left believes that only they get to choose the minorities to care about (“Latinx” for this poster). It is vile and disgusting and turns a lot of citizens against the democrats. You are a big reason our country is in the state that it’s in, because frankly people can’t stand you.

-a moderate democrat

People - calm down! Why is everyone arguing with each other here? Everyone is on the same side; every parent here wants what’s best for their child(ren).

The issue simply comes down to the friend of the OP not wanting her kids around those kind kids at justice. But she can’t afford to move. Obviously there’s no way to keep those types out of Justice.

So it comes down to how we can all help her kids’ flight from Justice HS?

Or maybe the issue just comes down to an OP who is making things up to denigrate schools like Justice with lots of poor kids and push the narrative that Langley is hot sh*t. We really don’t know for sure, do we?

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Anonymous wrote:It's interesting how so many liberal people don't want the downtrodden to have access to their better quality schools even when it is in the SAME county and SAME school district.

These are often the same people who think there should be no more affirmative action because everyone now has the same opportunities and same access to quality education if the parent only put forth some effort. Yet when a parent tries to do that people are appalled.

OP it is really easy now to change an address on a bill online like a medical record, print it out for residency purposes and change it back.

So I would be cagey about saying yes through a text or email or anything written, but saying verbally if mail came to your house that was addressed to your co-worker you wouldn't send it back to the school and mark it person doesn't live here. And that many people who do that end up getting a PO Box so mail is sent to the PO Box.

I would bet that the people committing residency fraud are people who wanted the bigger house at a cheap price and bought in a HS pyramid that they are not happy with. They are looking for a way to move their kid to a school they prefer without having to buy a more expensive, smaller house at the school they want to go to.

I would have no problem supporting FARMs kids being allowed to opt-in to a different HS with transportation. I have no problem with that. I don’t think parents who are not FARMs, choosing to live in an area, and then trying to find someone to pretend that they live in Langley boundaries to go to HS there. Pupil place if you want to attend the school.

NP.

The problem is Justice HS has far more FARMS and BIPOC kids than Langley. Can’t you see the OP’s co-worker is desperate for her kids to get away from the BIPOCS and FARMS?

Why shouldn’t the OP help her friend get away from people like that? What’s the problem?

DP. While your attempt at trolling is pretty lame, just thought it was worth pointing out that Langley is majority minority. That often gets lost in this discussion.

Swing and a miss, PP. but you already knew that.

The Langley BIPOCs mostly benefit from unearned Asian/ Indian privilege.

The Justice BIPOCs are true URMs: Latinx youth from under-resourced communities.

The extreme left believes that only they get to choose the minorities to care about (“Latinx” for this poster). It is vile and disgusting and turns a lot of citizens against the democrats. You are a big reason our country is in the state that it’s in, because frankly people can’t stand you.

-a moderate democrat

People - calm down! Why is everyone arguing with each other here? Everyone is on the same side; every parent here wants what’s best for their child(ren).

The issue simply comes down to the friend of the OP not wanting her kids around those kind kids at justice. But she can’t afford to move. Obviously there’s no way to keep those types out of Justice.

So it comes down to how we can all help her kids’ flight from Justice HS?

Wow. Dick move for her to ask. You're a clown for considering it