Anonymous wrote:This is terrifyingly sad. The New Yorker portrait of her is haunting. And what a well-written piece.

I'm amazed they were able to keep this private for as long as they did, given how public her brother has become.

Anonymous wrote:I know so many young adults with devastating cancers. We have done something awful to ourselves.

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Anonymous wrote:JFK’s kids and grandkids all turned out well. RFK’s are a very mixed bag.

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Turned out well? Jack's online presence wants to have a word.

Anonymous wrote:JFK’s kids and grandkids all turned out well. RFK’s are a very mixed bag.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused about her diagnosis...she said she had no symptoms. is it standard to have blood tests and check white cell counts after having a baby? I don't remember that.

Yes, I think it's pretty commonly done when the body goes through trauma like childbirth. Also any time there's a major infection, major allergic reaction, etc.

I know a couple other young people who had similar stories--cancer discovered not because they had symptoms but during a routine blood test or a blood test related to some other procedure/event.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused about her diagnosis...she said she had no symptoms. is it standard to have blood tests and check white cell counts after having a baby? I don't remember that.

Yes I wrote about this in one of the thread about not having health care. Everyone single person is susceptible to cancer and it can happen out of nowhere. I saw so many young people with cancer as a resident (sometimes younger than me at the time). It makes me understand that nothing NOTHING is promised.

Even with health care ….Ive has symptoms for many years. All my doctors and specialists said I was making it up despite clear evidence on ct and other tests. Only one doctor decided to investigate and help me to the right specialists where I am finally testing. I’ve suffered unnecessary for so many years because of lazy doctors who should find a new profession.

Nothing to do with this thread.

It does because maybe if she had gotten better health care it would have been caught sooner and she could have gotten earlier treatment and had a better prognosis.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused about her diagnosis...she said she had no symptoms. is it standard to have blood tests and check white cell counts after having a baby? I don't remember that.

Yes I wrote about this in one of the thread about not having health care. Everyone single person is susceptible to cancer and it can happen out of nowhere. I saw so many young people with cancer as a resident (sometimes younger than me at the time). It makes me understand that nothing NOTHING is promised.

Even with health care ….Ive has symptoms for many years. All my doctors and specialists said I was making it up despite clear evidence on ct and other tests. Only one doctor decided to investigate and help me to the right specialists where I am finally testing. I’ve suffered unnecessary for so many years because of lazy doctors who should find a new profession.

Nothing to do with this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:This gutted me, as I used to think like this before my mom died. It's often the only thought that saved me from suicide. And then my brother died by suicide.

"For my whole life, I have tried to be good, to be a good student and a good sister and a good daughter, and to protect my mother and never make her upset or angry. Now I have added a new tragedy to her life, to our family’s life, and there’s nothing I can do to stop it."

I admire the decency and social conscience with which Caroline's children were raised.

Losing a child is the worst. My heart goes out to them.

I think losing a parent when you are that young is worse. They will spend their whole lives longing for her, wanting to know her but never really being able to and every milestone and growth in maturity will open that wound anew. They will have to grieve and regrieve her again and again.

No they will not. Under three yrs old and they will have very little, if any memory of her, only what is captured in photographs and film and what is told to them. If they are lucky they will be raised by family and potentially step family and they will be surrounded by love, no doubt.

I read somewhere that it is even harder for kids with no memory of their deceased parent. They are grieving something they never knew and that parent will forever be a mystery, which can be very difficult to process. It's not like they won't know they lost a parent - even if their dad remarries someone great and loving, they will know they lost their mom and that they have no idea who she is.

Yup. Sometimes not remembering them is worse than remembering them. I have no doubt they will be loved but it’s not the same. She will always be a ghost to them.

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Anonymous wrote:This gutted me, as I used to think like this before my mom died. It's often the only thought that saved me from suicide. And then my brother died by suicide.

"For my whole life, I have tried to be good, to be a good student and a good sister and a good daughter, and to protect my mother and never make her upset or angry. Now I have added a new tragedy to her life, to our family’s life, and there’s nothing I can do to stop it."

I admire the decency and social conscience with which Caroline's children were raised.

Losing a child is the worst. My heart goes out to them.

I think losing a parent when you are that young is worse. They will spend their whole lives longing for her, wanting to know her but never really being able to and every milestone and growth in maturity will open that wound anew. They will have to grieve and regrieve her again and again.

No they will not. Under three yrs old and they will have very little, if any memory of her, only what is captured in photographs and film and what is told to them. If they are lucky they will be raised by family and potentially step family and they will be surrounded by love, no doubt.

I read somewhere that it is even harder for kids with no memory of their deceased parent. They are grieving something they never knew and that parent will forever be a mystery, which can be very difficult to process. It's not like they won't know they lost a parent - even if their dad remarries someone great and loving, they will know they lost their mom and that they have no idea who she is.

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Anonymous wrote:This gutted me, as I used to think like this before my mom died. It's often the only thought that saved me from suicide. And then my brother died by suicide.

"For my whole life, I have tried to be good, to be a good student and a good sister and a good daughter, and to protect my mother and never make her upset or angry. Now I have added a new tragedy to her life, to our family’s life, and there’s nothing I can do to stop it."

I admire the decency and social conscience with which Caroline's children were raised.

Losing a child is the worst. My heart goes out to them.

I think losing a parent when you are that young is worse. They will spend their whole lives longing for her, wanting to know her but never really being able to and every milestone and growth in maturity will open that wound anew. They will have to grieve and regrieve her again and again.

Sadly, still won’t remember her. Though I am sure her memory will be kept alive for them.



No they will not. Under three yrs old and they will have very little, if any memory of her, only what is captured in photographs and film and what is told to them. If they are lucky they will be raised by family and potentially step family and they will be surrounded by love, no doubt.

If her son was 2 when the baby was born, and she is now walking, then he’s close to 4.

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Anonymous wrote:This gutted me, as I used to think like this before my mom died. It's often the only thought that saved me from suicide. And then my brother died by suicide.

"For my whole life, I have tried to be good, to be a good student and a good sister and a good daughter, and to protect my mother and never make her upset or angry. Now I have added a new tragedy to her life, to our family’s life, and there’s nothing I can do to stop it."

I admire the decency and social conscience with which Caroline's children were raised.

Losing a child is the worst. My heart goes out to them.

I think losing a parent when you are that young is worse. They will spend their whole lives longing for her, wanting to know her but never really being able to and every milestone and growth in maturity will open that wound anew. They will have to grieve and regrieve her again and again.

No they will not. Under three yrs old and they will have very little, if any memory of her, only what is captured in photographs and film and what is told to them. If they are lucky they will be raised by family and potentially step family and they will be surrounded by love, no doubt.

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Anonymous wrote:This gutted me, as I used to think like this before my mom died. It's often the only thought that saved me from suicide. And then my brother died by suicide.

"For my whole life, I have tried to be good, to be a good student and a good sister and a good daughter, and to protect my mother and never make her upset or angry. Now I have added a new tragedy to her life, to our family’s life, and there’s nothing I can do to stop it."

I admire the decency and social conscience with which Caroline's children were raised.

Losing a child is the worst. My heart goes out to them.

I think losing a parent when you are that young is worse. They will spend their whole lives longing for her, wanting to know her but never really being able to and every milestone and growth in maturity will open that wound anew. They will have to grieve and regrieve her again and again.

No they will not. Under three yrs old and they will have very little, if any memory of her, only what is captured in photographs and film and what is told to them. If they are lucky they will be raised by family and potentially step family and they will be surrounded by love, no doubt.

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Anonymous wrote:This gutted me, as I used to think like this before my mom died. It's often the only thought that saved me from suicide. And then my brother died by suicide.

"For my whole life, I have tried to be good, to be a good student and a good sister and a good daughter, and to protect my mother and never make her upset or angry. Now I have added a new tragedy to her life, to our family’s life, and there’s nothing I can do to stop it."

I admire the decency and social conscience with which Caroline's children were raised.

Losing a child is the worst. My heart goes out to them.

I think losing a parent when you are that young is worse. They will spend their whole lives longing for her, wanting to know her but never really being able to and every milestone and growth in maturity will open that wound anew. They will have to grieve and regrieve her again and again.

Anonymous wrote:JFK’s kids and grandkids all turned out well. RFK’s are a very mixed bag.