Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 13:11     Subject: The Diplomat-Season 3

Anonymous wrote:I thought Hal was way more likable this season.

I wish the Bradley Whitford character hadn’t insinuated that Hal and Grace are “too close” —it seemed like a dumb attempt at a red herring. I could never tell if Callum was good or bad…

This season kept me on my toes! I liked it.


I thought the idea of Hal and Grace somehow having an affair was completely stupid - however, it does look like they had certainly “gotten close” in their scheming and plotting. I wonder if that’s what Grace’s husband has noticed and not a romance.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 13:08     Subject: The Diplomat-Season 3

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I like this show and this season is the best yet, IMO. However, I cannot stand that on this show (and I had the same complaint on Scandal), the strong, smart lead character chooses to be tied to a self-centered, not as bright putz.


The whole point of this season is that Kate is realizing how similar she is to Hal. He is not more self-centered than she is. In fact, he was willing to put his own career on the back burner for her, something the she was incredibly reluctant to do.


DP. But hadn't Kate put HER career on the back burner for him prior? I think Hal knew Grace Penn would pick him for VP. He just kept pushing for Kate to be VP knowing all the while that he was the perfect candidate. Was anyone actually surprised when she picked him? OF COURSE he wanted to be VP. Him plugging Kate for the role was all a big act, so he could look like the humble, supportive husband. He's a complete narcissist.


The only way for him to know that Penn would pick him for VP "all the while" is if he knew the president was going to die. That theory makes no sense. Unless by "all the while" you mean in the couple weeks after the president's death?


Yes, the bolded is what I meant.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 12:22     Subject: The Diplomat-Season 3

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I like this show and this season is the best yet, IMO. However, I cannot stand that on this show (and I had the same complaint on Scandal), the strong, smart lead character chooses to be tied to a self-centered, not as bright putz.


The whole point of this season is that Kate is realizing how similar she is to Hal. He is not more self-centered than she is. In fact, he was willing to put his own career on the back burner for her, something the she was incredibly reluctant to do.


DP. But hadn't Kate put HER career on the back burner for him prior? I think Hal knew Grace Penn would pick him for VP. He just kept pushing for Kate to be VP knowing all the while that he was the perfect candidate. Was anyone actually surprised when she picked him? OF COURSE he wanted to be VP. Him plugging Kate for the role was all a big act, so he could look like the humble, supportive husband. He's a complete narcissist.


I was surprised. DH was not
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 12:01     Subject: The Diplomat-Season 3

Anonymous wrote:I liked the scene where Keri eyes the woman playing her body double and says something to the effect that, you know, my hair is not actually dirty… and I do brush it.

Clearly the writers were reading online comments about Keri’s hair in the first two seasons. My friend and I laughed at that scene.



Really? I didn't think the double's hair was all that messy until I saw her from the back and it was literal bedhead rat's nest. And then Kate gives her this ridiculous explanation about how "it's a style."

The whole hair thing is such a caricature, along with the zipper thing.

I am now thinking of the show as a farce rather than a drama.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 10:09     Subject: The Diplomat-Season 3

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I couldn’t get into the first season, because it seemed like the premise was that the main character (and her husband) were the only two people with any brain cells and every other person in their world was an idiot who needed Keri Russell to save them.
Does it get any better? Should I go back and try again? I am looking for something good to watch and wanted to like this but didn’t….


This is my problem with the finale. Kate is really the only person who knows that a cluster this is? When people on the American sub knows what happened? It’s just ridiculous.


I have zero knowledge about how any of this works so maybe it's realistic, but Kate somehow knows immediately what is going on and why, sometimes before it's even happened.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 10:03     Subject: The Diplomat-Season 3

Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 09:26     Subject: The Diplomat-Season 3

Anonymous wrote:I thought Hal was way more likable this season.

I wish the Bradley Whitford character hadn’t insinuated that Hal and Grace are “too close” —it seemed like a dumb attempt at a red herring. I could never tell if Callum was good or bad…

This season kept me on my toes! I liked it.


I felt the same about Callum - I thought the twist was going to be that he was a double agent and was using Kate to feed false info to the Brits and Americans (and send Kate back into Hal’s arms). Instead she jumped back into Hal’s arms for no apparent reason and the Americans screwed over the Brits again.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 07:57     Subject: The Diplomat-Season 3

I thought Hal was way more likable this season.

I wish the Bradley Whitford character hadn’t insinuated that Hal and Grace are “too close” —it seemed like a dumb attempt at a red herring. I could never tell if Callum was good or bad…

This season kept me on my toes! I liked it.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 07:47     Subject: The Diplomat-Season 3

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I like this show and this season is the best yet, IMO. However, I cannot stand that on this show (and I had the same complaint on Scandal), the strong, smart lead character chooses to be tied to a self-centered, not as bright putz.


The whole point of this season is that Kate is realizing how similar she is to Hal. He is not more self-centered than she is. In fact, he was willing to put his own career on the back burner for her, something the she was incredibly reluctant to do.


DP. But hadn't Kate put HER career on the back burner for him prior? I think Hal knew Grace Penn would pick him for VP. He just kept pushing for Kate to be VP knowing all the while that he was the perfect candidate. Was anyone actually surprised when she picked him? OF COURSE he wanted to be VP. Him plugging Kate for the role was all a big act, so he could look like the humble, supportive husband. He's a complete narcissist.


The only way for him to know that Penn would pick him for VP "all the while" is if he knew the president was going to die. That theory makes no sense. Unless by "all the while" you mean in the couple weeks after the president's death?
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 07:20     Subject: The Diplomat-Season 3

Anonymous wrote:I couldn’t get into the first season, because it seemed like the premise was that the main character (and her husband) were the only two people with any brain cells and every other person in their world was an idiot who needed Keri Russell to save them.
Does it get any better? Should I go back and try again? I am looking for something good to watch and wanted to like this but didn’t….


This is my problem with the finale. Kate is really the only person who knows that a cluster this is? When people on the American sub knows what happened? It’s just ridiculous.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2025 21:47     Subject: The Diplomat-Season 3

Anonymous wrote:OK I got distracted by one of my kids while watching the final episode and don’t feel like rewatching. Spoiler question ….


why did Kate go back to Hal at the end of the episode? the last I saw she had made a plea to her boyfriend asking for another chance, and it seemed like he was giving her one? even if he didn’t, she begged Hal for forgiveness and asked to be taken back, which seemed totally out of the blue.


I had the same question! It was bizarre that she went back to Hal all of a sudden when she had just pleaded her case to the boyfriend. And then to find out how badly Hal just burned her... yikes.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2025 21:46     Subject: The Diplomat-Season 3

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I like this show and this season is the best yet, IMO. However, I cannot stand that on this show (and I had the same complaint on Scandal), the strong, smart lead character chooses to be tied to a self-centered, not as bright putz.


The whole point of this season is that Kate is realizing how similar she is to Hal. He is not more self-centered than she is. In fact, he was willing to put his own career on the back burner for her, something the she was incredibly reluctant to do.


+1

The reality is Kate is the a-hole.


I don't care what his character is like, I can watch Rufus forever.

I enjoy the show but--VP's wife/ambassador to the UK planning to negotiate with the Saudis re: oil leases in the North Sea? Not even that, seems like throughout the show she drives in 5 lanes.

Will the ship attack thing ever rear its head again? It's Iran/no it's Russia/no it's Lemkov/no it's the PM/no its Meg Riolan/no it's the VP was certainly nuts.


She also seems to make a lot of geopolitical decisions on her own without consulting any powers that be, besides her chief of staff 😂.


+1
In reality, the Sec. of State would be the negotiator for many of these issues - not the ambassador, for crying out loud.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2025 21:45     Subject: The Diplomat-Season 3

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I like this show and this season is the best yet, IMO. However, I cannot stand that on this show (and I had the same complaint on Scandal), the strong, smart lead character chooses to be tied to a self-centered, not as bright putz.


The whole point of this season is that Kate is realizing how similar she is to Hal. He is not more self-centered than she is. In fact, he was willing to put his own career on the back burner for her, something the she was incredibly reluctant to do.


DP. But hadn't Kate put HER career on the back burner for him prior? I think Hal knew Grace Penn would pick him for VP. He just kept pushing for Kate to be VP knowing all the while that he was the perfect candidate. Was anyone actually surprised when she picked him? OF COURSE he wanted to be VP. Him plugging Kate for the role was all a big act, so he could look like the humble, supportive husband. He's a complete narcissist.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2025 19:00     Subject: The Diplomat-Season 3

OK I got distracted by one of my kids while watching the final episode and don’t feel like rewatching. Spoiler question ….


why did Kate go back to Hal at the end of the episode? the last I saw she had made a plea to her boyfriend asking for another chance, and it seemed like he was giving her one? even if he didn’t, she begged Hal for forgiveness and asked to be taken back, which seemed totally out of the blue.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2025 14:33     Subject: The Diplomat-Season 3

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I like this show and this season is the best yet, IMO. However, I cannot stand that on this show (and I had the same complaint on Scandal), the strong, smart lead character chooses to be tied to a self-centered, not as bright putz.


The whole point of this season is that Kate is realizing how similar she is to Hal. He is not more self-centered than she is. In fact, he was willing to put his own career on the back burner for her, something the she was incredibly reluctant to do.


+1

The reality is Kate is the a-hole.


I don't care what his character is like, I can watch Rufus forever.

I enjoy the show but--VP's wife/ambassador to the UK planning to negotiate with the Saudis re: oil leases in the North Sea? Not even that, seems like throughout the show she drives in 5 lanes.

Will the ship attack thing ever rear its head again? It's Iran/no it's Russia/no it's Lemkov/no it's the PM/no its Meg Riolan/no it's the VP was certainly nuts.


She also seems to make a lot of geopolitical decisions on her own without consulting any powers that be, besides her chief of staff 😂.