This is really an open borders position. Which is simply not practical for any country, especially one with economic prosperity. There is a reason why Christianity has not ruled nations under priests and instead co-existed alongside royal or democratic power. Too many principles are impractical for a successful state.

Anonymous wrote:I'm kinda curious who the OP is. Here she is, trying to find ways to demand the U.S. and American Roman Catholics accept the immigrants on "their terms." She's throwing transparently guilt tactics here, as if we're children and she's the scolding elder.

Guess what, lady. The U.S. is more than generous to immigrants. But you don't want to hear that, do you?

Alligator Alcatraz? Flying migrants to Sudan? Those are not generous actions. They’re completely inhumane. But by all means, keep lying to yourself and rationalize what’s going on.

Salivating at the prospect of that POS Little Marco Rubio daring to say boo about the Holy Father’s comments.

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Anonymous wrote:I think many Catholics agree with this.

The MAGA split in the US Catholic church is going to be interesting.

If the Pope keeps it up I give it 6 months before someone in the Trump administration calls him leftist, communist, woke, enemy, or the like.

MAGA evangelicals don't really consider Catholics to be "Christian" in the way they are. It's not like they care what the highest Catholic cleric says.

True enough, but that’s what makes it funny … because Catholics are the only real Christians.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.npr.org/2025/10/01/nx-s1-5560169/pope-leo-xiv-says-inhuman-treatment-of-immigrants-in-the-u-s-isnt-pro-life

"Someone who says I'm against abortion but is in favor of the death penalty is not really pro-life," Pope Leo said. "And someone who says I'm against abortion but I'm in agreement with the inhuman treatment of immigrants in the United States, I don't know if that's pro-life."

Pro lifers are only pro life when it comes to women having no right to a safe abortion. Pro lifers don't want to pay for pre-/post-natal care or pay for child care so women can work outside the home. MAGAS don't even want to continue SNAP.

They’re pro-pregnancy, not pro-life. They like women in the submissive vulnerable state in need of care.

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA Catholics have lost their way.

I agree and wish they would leave. Unfortunately they will be happy insulting the Pope and insisting that the "fewer and truer" are the true devout Catholics, just like they did with Pope Francis. I wish all of these converts who apply their evangelical zeal to Catholicism would take off.

They are not true if all they are about is abortion. Christ was silent on the matter of abortion, and at the time of Christ, the Testament taught that life did not begin at conception, but when the child entered the world and took its first breath.

Here is the true teaching of Christ that MAGA Catholics reject:

Love your enemies Matthew 5:44 “Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.”

Turn the other cheek Matthew 5:39 Reject retaliation: “If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.”

Blessed are the peacemakers Matthew 5:9 Peacemakers are called children of God, not agitators or warmongers.

Do not store up treasures on earth Matthew 6:19–21 Warns against materialism and hoarding wealth.

You cannot serve both God and money Matthew 6:24 A direct rebuke of greed and prosperity gospel ideology.

Feed the hungry, clothe the naked, welcome the stranger Matthew 25:35–40 “Whatever you did for the least of these… you did for me.”

It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle… Matthew 19:24 A warning about the spiritual danger of wealth.

Do not judge, or you too will be judged Matthew 7:1 Condemns moral superiority and public shaming.

Let the one without sin cast the first stone John 8:7 A call for humility and mercy, not condemnation.

Heal the sick Matthew 14:14 Jesus healed without cost or condition—contrasting with resistance to universal healthcare.

Welcome the outcast Luke 5:30–32 Jesus dined with sinners, tax collectors, and the marginalized.

The Good Samaritan Luke 10:25–37 Compassion across ethnic and national lines—an implicit rebuke of xenophobia.

Render unto Caesar… Matthew 22:21 A call to respect civic responsibility, not idolize political power.

Woe to you who are rich… Luke 6:24–25 A prophetic warning to the comfortable and powerful.

Forgive seventy times seven Matthew 18:21–22 Radical forgiveness, not vengeance or scorekeeping.

Do not be like the hypocrites… Matthew 6:5 Condemns performative religion and public displays of piety.

Blessed are the meek Matthew 5:5 Elevates humility over dominance or bravado.

Do not resist an evildoer with violence Matthew 5:39 A call to nonviolence, even in the face of injustice.

Give to everyone who begs from you Luke 6:30 Radical generosity, not suspicion of the poor.

You are the salt of the earth… the light of the world Matthew 5:13–16

How can anyone call themselves true when they reject the majority of Christ's teachings?

Anonymous wrote:https://www.npr.org/2025/10/01/nx-s1-5560169/pope-leo-xiv-says-inhuman-treatment-of-immigrants-in-the-u-s-isnt-pro-life

"Someone who says I'm against abortion but is in favor of the death penalty is not really pro-life," Pope Leo said. "And someone who says I'm against abortion but I'm in agreement with the inhuman treatment of immigrants in the United States, I don't know if that's pro-life."

Pro lifers are only pro life when it comes to women having no right to a safe abortion. Pro lifers don't want to pay for pre-/post-natal care or pay for child care so women can work outside the home. MAGAS don't even want to continue SNAP.

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Anonymous wrote:I think many Catholics agree with this.

I know some very hypocritical catholics who are cheering on ICE.....good little catholics they are

Don Lemon interviews a Catholic HS student who says that ICE tactics have divided his school. I can totally envision a Latino vs White rich Catholic divide in these schools. It’s a powder keg ready to burst.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPw-TjhD9GS/?igsh=dmQxdGN0dnA0eTNi

Anonymous wrote:I'm kinda curious who the OP is. Here she is, trying to find ways to demand the U.S. and American Roman Catholics accept the immigrants on "their terms." She's throwing transparently guilt tactics here, as if we're children and she's the scolding elder.

Guess what, lady. The U.S. is more than generous to immigrants. But you don't want to hear that, do you?

You have a lot of unclear antecedents. By "their terms" are you referring to Catholics' terms or immigrants' terms? And "more generous to immigrants" than ... who or what? more generous than we used to be? more generous than other wealthy nations? more generous than the Catholic teaching would demand?

I may have started this thread, I honestly don't remember. In case I did, to answer your question: I am Catholic and am disgusted by this country's treatment of immigrants and, very especially, by any member of the Trump administration who claims to be Catholic.

Anonymous wrote:I think many Catholics agree with this.

I know some very hypocritical catholics who are cheering on ICE.....good little catholics they are

I'm kinda curious who the OP is. Here she is, trying to find ways to demand the U.S. and American Roman Catholics accept the immigrants on "their terms." She's throwing transparently guilt tactics here, as if we're children and she's the scolding elder.

Guess what, lady. The U.S. is more than generous to immigrants. But you don't want to hear that, do you?

Anonymous wrote:Rich American conservative Catholics are still trying to figure out how they will fit through the eye of a needle.

Pope Leo seems pretty intent on triggering them.

But he still takes their money. No issue with that. Ans as long as they still give $$$, they can still receive sacraments and participate in church life. So long as the spice, I mean, money, flows.

Rich American conservative Catholics are still trying to figure out how they will fit through the eye of a needle.

Pope Leo seems pretty intent on triggering them.

Cool story , go dry clean the hat

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Anonymous wrote:While MAGA of all stripes are a bit unhinged, let’s not kid ourselves. Popes Francis ans Bob are in it for the Likes.

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He does things if they think will be popular. They are populists like Trump.