Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Define conservative. By definition, education learning new things, new approaches, meeting new people and ideas tends to be a liberal tenet.
One would think so. Unfortunately the progressive left has forgotten this. Statistics show they are the most intolerant, and now Democrats are more likely to refuse to date or be friends with conservatives and boasts of cutting off family and old friends over views is much more common on the left than the right. So I'd be careful in making these kinds of assumptions. Any pragmatic person who's been through the elite Ivory tower knows they are the most ideologically rigid and unforgiving of any higher education institutions.
I don't know what OP is looking for, but it she or he is looking for the old fashioned concept of liberal, aka a genuine tolerance of diversity of viewpoints, best places are probably the big state universities and southern schools. Faculty will be D voters but students are all across the spectrum with minimal pressure to hide their views.
No, in any University, all viewpoints are taught and explored. I don't know where you get the idea that this isn't true. The only 'viewpoints' you would find little tolerance for are racist, misogynist, and other discriminatory falsehoods -- but even those viewpoints (which are neither liberal nor conservative, but just morally wrong) are absolutely explored and discussed (and hopefully, for the peace of the whole world, rejected). Do you expect anyone to think those positions are OK?
There is a huge gulf between "women should have the option to stay at home because there are various benefits to it, but also the option to work, and public policy should support either decision because both have societal benefits (liberal) and women who chose a professional career “choose a path to misery” "instead of starting a family and having children” (JD Vance).
DP. I don't know *any* liberal woman who believes this. According to the liberal women I know, if you are a mother with kids who chooses to be a SAHM, you are a waste of space. And we see that very unfortunate attitude all the time right here on DCUM, a liberal bastion.
Anonymous wrote:Clemson is incredibly conservative. Not even close to moderate.
Anonymous wrote:University of Austin
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:WashU is mostly liberal. UVA is mostly liberal. Purdue is mostly liberal. Define conservative?
+1 the more educated you are, the more likely you tend to lean liberal.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Define conservative. By definition, education learning new things, new approaches, meeting new people and ideas tends to be a liberal tenet.
One would think so. Unfortunately the progressive left has forgotten this. Statistics show they are the most intolerant, and now Democrats are more likely to refuse to date or be friends with conservatives and boasts of cutting off family and old friends over views is much more common on the left than the right. So I'd be careful in making these kinds of assumptions. Any pragmatic person who's been through the elite Ivory tower knows they are the most ideologically rigid and unforgiving of any higher education institutions.
I don't know what OP is looking for, but it she or he is looking for the old fashioned concept of liberal, aka a genuine tolerance of diversity of viewpoints, best places are probably the big state universities and southern schools. Faculty will be D voters but students are all across the spectrum with minimal pressure to hide their views.
No, in any University, all viewpoints are taught and explored. I don't know where you get the idea that this isn't true. The only 'viewpoints' you would find little tolerance for are racist, misogynist, and other discriminatory falsehoods -- but even those viewpoints (which are neither liberal nor conservative, but just morally wrong) are absolutely explored and discussed (and hopefully, for the peace of the whole world, rejected). Do you expect anyone to think those positions are OK?
There is a huge gulf between "women should have the option to stay at home because there are various benefits to it, but also the option to work, and public policy should support either decision because both have societal benefits (liberal) and women who chose a professional career “choose a path to misery” "instead of starting a family and having children” (JD Vance).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Define conservative. By definition, education learning new things, new approaches, meeting new people and ideas tends to be a liberal tenet.
One would think so. Unfortunately the progressive left has forgotten this. Statistics show they are the most intolerant, and now Democrats are more likely to refuse to date or be friends with conservatives and boasts of cutting off family and old friends over views is much more common on the left than the right. So I'd be careful in making these kinds of assumptions. Any pragmatic person who's been through the elite Ivory tower knows they are the most ideologically rigid and unforgiving of any higher education institutions.
I don't know what OP is looking for, but it she or he is looking for the old fashioned concept of liberal, aka a genuine tolerance of diversity of viewpoints, best places are probably the big state universities and southern schools. Faculty will be D voters but students are all across the spectrum with minimal pressure to hide their views.
I would guess this is women unwilling to date men who think they are second class citizens/shouldn't have bodily autonomy. I don't find that surprising at all, tolerating a view point doesn't require you to date them.
+1000
This was true for me and my peers in the 1990s and 2000s. And I expect it will remain the same for DD and her peers in the decade or two two come.
Dating has always been a self-sorting process. The only “new” part of this is the big jump in the number of very conservative young men without a similar shift from young women.
The result is that conservative men are facing a smaller dating pool. The same is true for liberal women, by the way. There’s a major population mismatch going on right now, but recent research shows that young women are more focused on first establishing a career than getting married and having kids. So there’s less disappointment/bitterness showing up from the women (and fewer mass shootings, too ….)
Based on what Ive seen, there's many more frustrated liberal single women than frustrated single conservative men who can't find spouses. NYC and DC are packed with childless single women and it's been observed that it's a significant factor behind the leftward drift of the Democratic party and the party's embracing of controversial social topics. Meanwhile married women continue to trend more centrist and even conservative. Being married and having children clearly brings out greater conservatism in people, for both men and women.
As for schools, most state schools are going to be more apolitical than political. The local regional university near me has everyone, more or less, and a pretty chill atmosphere. I concur with a PP who said most kids going to college aren't looking for politics or agonize over politics all day long.
No. Many most certainly do not want to raise kids with a conservative partner.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Define conservative. By definition, education learning new things, new approaches, meeting new people and ideas tends to be a liberal tenet.
One would think so. Unfortunately the progressive left has forgotten this. Statistics show they are the most intolerant, and now Democrats are more likely to refuse to date or be friends with conservatives and boasts of cutting off family and old friends over views is much more common on the left than the right. So I'd be careful in making these kinds of assumptions. Any pragmatic person who's been through the elite Ivory tower knows they are the most ideologically rigid and unforgiving of any higher education institutions.
I don't know what OP is looking for, but it she or he is looking for the old fashioned concept of liberal, aka a genuine tolerance of diversity of viewpoints, best places are probably the big state universities and southern schools. Faculty will be D voters but students are all across the spectrum with minimal pressure to hide their views.
Anonymous wrote:1 Brigham Young University
2 Liberty University
3 Bob Jones University
4 Thomas Aquinas College
5 Cedarville University
6 Colorado Christian University
7 Brigham Young University—Idaho
8 North Greenville University
9 Biola University
10 Patrick Henry College
11 Utah State University
12 Palm Beach Atlantic University
13 Southern Methodist University
14 Grove City College
15 Samford University
16 University of Dallas
17 Dallas Baptist University
18 West Texas A&M University
19 Harding University
20 Cornerstone University
21 Texas A&M University
22 Evangel University
23 Maranatha Baptist University
24 Abilene Christian University
25 Lee University
26 George Fox University
27 Montana Technological University
28 Wheaton College—Illinois
29 Taylor University
30 Susquehanna University
31 Oral Roberts University
32 Auburn University
33 Western New Mexico University
34 The University of Alabama—Huntsville
35 University of Tennessee—Martin
36 Arkansas State University
37 University of Evansville
38 Eastern Washington University
39 Moody Bible Institute
40 The University of Alabama
41 University of Northwestern—St. Paul
42 Wayland Baptist University
43 Radford University
44 Franciscan University of Steubenville
45 Hillsdale College
46 LeTourneau University
47 Anderson University—South Carolina
48 University of Arkansas
49 Trevecca Nazarene University
50 Troy University
51 Southeastern University
52 Lock Haven University
53 University of North Georgia
54 Concordia University—Wisconsin
55 Wayne State College
56 University of Wyoming
57 South Dakota School of Mines & Technology
58 Missouri University of Science & Technology
59 University of Findlay
60 Johnson University
61 Spring Arbor University
62 Baylor University
63 Northwest University
64 Texas Christian University
65 Tarleton State University
66 Ouachita Baptist University
67 Benedictine College
68 Idaho State University
69 University of Scranton
70 Midwestern State University
71 Kansas State University
72 Angelo State University
73 Oklahoma State University
74 Brigham Young University—Hawaii
75 University of Mississippi
76 Southwestern Assemblies of God University
77 Bethel University—Indiana
78 Howard Payne University
79 Olivet Nazarene University
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Define conservative. By definition, education learning new things, new approaches, meeting new people and ideas tends to be a liberal tenet.
One would think so. Unfortunately the progressive left has forgotten this. Statistics show they are the most intolerant, and now Democrats are more likely to refuse to date or be friends with conservatives and boasts of cutting off family and old friends over views is much more common on the left than the right. So I'd be careful in making these kinds of assumptions. Any pragmatic person who's been through the elite Ivory tower knows they are the most ideologically rigid and unforgiving of any higher education institutions.
I don't know what OP is looking for, but it she or he is looking for the old fashioned concept of liberal, aka a genuine tolerance of diversity of viewpoints, best places are probably the big state universities and southern schools. Faculty will be D voters but students are all across the spectrum with minimal pressure to hide their views.
I would guess this is women unwilling to date men who think they are second class citizens/shouldn't have bodily autonomy. I don't find that surprising at all, tolerating a view point doesn't require you to date them.
+1000
This was true for me and my peers in the 1990s and 2000s. And I expect it will remain the same for DD and her peers in the decade or two two come.
Dating has always been a self-sorting process. The only “new” part of this is the big jump in the number of very conservative young men without a similar shift from young women.
The result is that conservative men are facing a smaller dating pool. The same is true for liberal women, by the way. There’s a major population mismatch going on right now, but recent research shows that young women are more focused on first establishing a career than getting married and having kids. So there’s less disappointment/bitterness showing up from the women (and fewer mass shootings, too ….)
Based on what Ive seen, there's many more frustrated liberal single women than frustrated single conservative men who can't find spouses. NYC and DC are packed with childless single women and it's been observed that it's a significant factor behind the leftward drift of the Democratic party and the party's embracing of controversial social topics. Meanwhile married women continue to trend more centrist and even conservative. Being married and having children clearly brings out greater conservatism in people, for both men and women.
As for schools, most state schools are going to be more apolitical than political. The local regional university near me has everyone, more or less, and a pretty chill atmosphere. I concur with a PP who said most kids going to college aren't looking for politics or agonize over politics all day long.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Define conservative. By definition, education learning new things, new approaches, meeting new people and ideas tends to be a liberal tenet.
One would think so. Unfortunately the progressive left has forgotten this. Statistics show they are the most intolerant, and now Democrats are more likely to refuse to date or be friends with conservatives and boasts of cutting off family and old friends over views is much more common on the left than the right. So I'd be careful in making these kinds of assumptions. Any pragmatic person who's been through the elite Ivory tower knows they are the most ideologically rigid and unforgiving of any higher education institutions.
I don't know what OP is looking for, but it she or he is looking for the old fashioned concept of liberal, aka a genuine tolerance of diversity of viewpoints, best places are probably the big state universities and southern schools. Faculty will be D voters but students are all across the spectrum with minimal pressure to hide their views.
I would guess this is women unwilling to date men who think they are second class citizens/shouldn't have bodily autonomy. I don't find that surprising at all, tolerating a view point doesn't require you to date them.
+1000
This was true for me and my peers in the 1990s and 2000s. And I expect it will remain the same for DD and her peers in the decade or two two come.
Dating has always been a self-sorting process. The only “new” part of this is the big jump in the number of very conservative young men without a similar shift from young women.
The result is that conservative men are facing a smaller dating pool. The same is true for liberal women, by the way. There’s a major population mismatch going on right now, but recent research shows that young women are more focused on first establishing a career than getting married and having kids. So there’s less disappointment/bitterness showing up from the women (and fewer mass shootings, too ….)
Based on what Ive seen, there's many more frustrated liberal single women than frustrated single conservative men who can't find spouses. NYC and DC are packed with childless single women and it's been observed that it's a significant factor behind the leftward drift of the Democratic party and the party's embracing of controversial social topics. Meanwhile married women continue to trend more centrist and even conservative. Being married and having children clearly brings out greater conservatism in people, for both men and women.
As for schools, most state schools are going to be more apolitical than political. The local regional university near me has everyone, more or less, and a pretty chill atmosphere. I concur with a PP who said most kids going to college aren't looking for politics or agonize over politics all day long.
+1000
Well said.
That has not been my experience nor the experience of my friends. So "based on what I've seen" the exact opposite is true.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Define conservative. By definition, education learning new things, new approaches, meeting new people and ideas tends to be a liberal tenet.
One would think so. Unfortunately the progressive left has forgotten this. Statistics show they are the most intolerant, and now Democrats are more likely to refuse to date or be friends with conservatives and boasts of cutting off family and old friends over views is much more common on the left than the right. So I'd be careful in making these kinds of assumptions. Any pragmatic person who's been through the elite Ivory tower knows they are the most ideologically rigid and unforgiving of any higher education institutions.
I don't know what OP is looking for, but it she or he is looking for the old fashioned concept of liberal, aka a genuine tolerance of diversity of viewpoints, best places are probably the big state universities and southern schools. Faculty will be D voters but students are all across the spectrum with minimal pressure to hide their views.
I would guess this is women unwilling to date men who think they are second class citizens/shouldn't have bodily autonomy. I don't find that surprising at all, tolerating a view point doesn't require you to date them.
+1000
This was true for me and my peers in the 1990s and 2000s. And I expect it will remain the same for DD and her peers in the decade or two two come.
Dating has always been a self-sorting process. The only “new” part of this is the big jump in the number of very conservative young men without a similar shift from young women.
The result is that conservative men are facing a smaller dating pool. The same is true for liberal women, by the way. There’s a major population mismatch going on right now, but recent research shows that young women are more focused on first establishing a career than getting married and having kids. So there’s less disappointment/bitterness showing up from the women (and fewer mass shootings, too ….)
Based on what Ive seen, there's many more frustrated liberal single women than frustrated single conservative men who can't find spouses. NYC and DC are packed with childless single women and it's been observed that it's a significant factor behind the leftward drift of the Democratic party and the party's embracing of controversial social topics. Meanwhile married women continue to trend more centrist and even conservative. Being married and having children clearly brings out greater conservatism in people, for both men and women.
As for schools, most state schools are going to be more apolitical than political. The local regional university near me has everyone, more or less, and a pretty chill atmosphere. I concur with a PP who said most kids going to college aren't looking for politics or agonize over politics all day long.
+1000
Well said.
Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame
Anonymous wrote:OP here - no, not talking about the other students' political leaning, or even the faculty for that matter. Asking about which university boards/admins are changing to Trumpism.
The ones in charge will determine the direction/teaching at that school. So, yes, looks like UVA is headed that way. Wash U - not sure - but MO is gerrymandering like crazy and only a matter of time before they take control of Wash U.
TX legislature will take control over TX schools, at least the publics.
Agree with a PP maybe it's the ones that sign this new blackmailing compact.