Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:According to US Census region designation:

Northeast: 16 universities:
Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins, UPenn, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, NYU, Tufts, BU, Northeastern, Rutgers

South: 17 universities
Duke, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UNC, UVA, Vanderbilt, Emory, Georgia Tech, Rice, UT Austin, Florida, UMD, Georgia [William & Mary, Texas A&M, FSU, Wake Forest are all tied at 51 and are technically #51]

Midwest: 6 universities
UChicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Michigan, WashU, Illinois

West: 10 universities
Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, UCI, UCSB, UCSD, UC Davis, Washington


The south is the future of academia in America.

You missed a few.

Here are the top 50:

North (18)
1 Princeton
2 MIT
3 Harvard
4 Yale
7 UPenn
12 Cornell
13 Brown
13 Dartmouth
15 Columbia
20 Carnegie Mellon
32 NYU
36 BC
36 Tufts
42 BU
42 Rutgers
46 Northeastern
46 URochester
46 Lehigh

Mid-Atlantic (3):
7 Johns Hopkins
24 Georgetown
42 Maryland

South (10):
7 Duke
17 Vanderbilt
17 Rice
24 Emory
26 UNC
26 UVA
30 UF
30 UT Austin
32 GA Tech
46 Georgia

Midwest (9):
6 UChicago
7 Northwestern
20 Notre Dame
20 UMich
20 WashU
36 UIUC
36 U Wisconsin
41 Ohio State
46 Perdue

West (10):
4 Stanford
11 Caltech
15 UC Berkeley
17 UCLA
28 USC
29 UCSD
32 UC Davis
32 UC Irvine
40 UCSB
42 UW

Here is the actual list again. OP had a few errors.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:According to US Census region designation:

Northeast: 16 universities:
Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins, UPenn, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, NYU, Tufts, BU, Northeastern, Rutgers

South: 17 universities
Duke, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UNC, UVA, Vanderbilt, Emory, Georgia Tech, Rice, UT Austin, Florida, UMD, Georgia [William & Mary, Texas A&M, FSU, Wake Forest are all tied at 51 and are technically #51]

Midwest: 6 universities
UChicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Michigan, WashU, Illinois

West: 10 universities
Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, UCI, UCSB, UCSD, UC Davis, Washington


The south is the future of academia in America.

You missed a few.

Here are the top 50:

North (18)
1 Princeton
2 MIT
3 Harvard
4 Yale
7 UPenn
12 Cornell
13 Brown
13 Dartmouth
15 Columbia
20 Carnegie Mellon
32 NYU
36 BC
36 Tufts
42 BU
42 Rutgers
46 Northeastern
46 URochester
46 Lehigh

Mid-Atlantic (3):
7 Johns Hopkins
24 Georgetown
42 Maryland

South (10):
7 Duke
17 Vanderbilt
17 Rice
24 Emory
26 UNC
26 UVA
30 UF
30 UT Austin
32 GA Tech
46 Georgia

Midwest (9):
6 UChicago
7 Northwestern
20 Notre Dame
20 UMich
20 WashU
36 UIUC
36 U Wisconsin
41 Ohio State
46 Perdue

West (10):
4 Stanford
11 Caltech
15 UC Berkeley
17 UCLA
28 USC
29 UCSD
32 UC Davis
32 UC Irvine
40 UCSB
42 UW

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, and UMD are really not considered South in any sense other than weird civil-war era metrics, which judging by the title of your post is your thing.

Ask most people to put these schools in buckets and they're gonna say 19 are NE and 14 are S.

But Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UMD, and UVA aren't exactly northern schools either.

If there are only four boxes - North, South, Midwest, and West - I'd put them in the South box.

The Mid-Atlantic is the forgotten step-child. And there is no box for them. Compared to New England, the DMV schools are very much part of the Southern world.

So OP is correct.

New England has the advantage of history. But after 1800, besides MIT and the Boston schools, all the energy is elsewhere.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The University of Tennessee at Knoxville and the University of Alabama are rapidly rising. I don't think the elite or near elite private colleges of the northeast will suffer. There is enough talent to go around. But the south is definitely having an academic renaissance.

For the purpose of this thread…which is USNews rankings…Alabama is in fact falling.

https://tuscaloosathread.com/alabama-university-national-rankings/

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The University of Tennessee at Knoxville and the University of Alabama are rapidly rising. I don't think the elite or near elite private colleges of the northeast will suffer. There is enough talent to go around. But the south is definitely having an academic renaissance.

For the purpose of this thread…which is USNews rankings…Alabama is in fact falling.

Anonymous wrote:The University of Tennessee at Knoxville and the University of Alabama are rapidly rising. I don't think the elite or near elite private colleges of the northeast will suffer. There is enough talent to go around. But the south is definitely having an academic renaissance.

Anonymous wrote:I mean, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, and UMD are really not considered South in any sense other than weird civil-war era metrics, which judging by the title of your post is your thing.

Ask most people to put these schools in buckets and they're gonna say 19 are NE and 14 are S.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:According to US Census region designation:

Northeast: 16 universities:
Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins, UPenn, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, NYU, Tufts, BU, Northeastern, Rutgers

South: 17 universities
Duke, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UNC, UVA, Vanderbilt, Emory, Georgia Tech, Rice, UT Austin, Florida, UMD, Georgia [William & Mary, Texas A&M, FSU, Wake Forest are all tied at 51 and are technically #51]

Midwest: 6 universities
UChicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Michigan, WashU, Illinois

West: 10 universities
Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, UCI, UCSB, UCSD, UC Davis, Washington


The south is the future of academia in America.

Honey- Hopkins and Georgetown (MD and DC) are not the south. They are midatlantic.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:According to US Census region designation:

Northeast: 16 universities:
Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins, UPenn, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, NYU, Tufts, BU, Northeastern, Rutgers

South: 17 universities
Duke, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UNC, UVA, Vanderbilt, Emory, Georgia Tech, Rice, UT Austin, Florida, UMD, Georgia [William & Mary, Texas A&M, FSU, Wake Forest are all tied at 51 and are technically #51]

Midwest: 6 universities
UChicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Michigan, WashU, Illinois

West: 10 universities
Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, UCI, UCSB, UCSD, UC Davis, Washington


The south is the future of academia in America.

Honey- Hopkins and Georgetown (MD and DC) are not the south. They are midatlantic.

Anonymous wrote:According to US Census region designation:

Northeast: 16 universities:
Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins, UPenn, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, NYU, Tufts, BU, Northeastern, Rutgers

South: 17 universities
Duke, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UNC, UVA, Vanderbilt, Emory, Georgia Tech, Rice, UT Austin, Florida, UMD, Georgia [William & Mary, Texas A&M, FSU, Wake Forest are all tied at 51 and are technically #51]

Midwest: 6 universities
UChicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Michigan, WashU, Illinois

West: 10 universities
Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, UCI, UCSB, UCSD, UC Davis, Washington


The south is the future of academia in America.

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Anonymous wrote:I work with a guy who grew up in rural Louisiana. When he came to the area he specifically chose to live in Virginia to remain in the "South." He has since left for home because the DMV is NOT comfortable for him.

And, seriously, using the Mason-Dixon line as a meaningful marker in 2025 makes about as much sense as using the Maginot Line as a meaningful marker in 2025. Sure... it is on a map. It used to be a real thing. But that was a while ago.

So was the Civil War - yet some of you seem to think being "the South" means "being Confederate". It's beyond asinine.