Anonymous wrote:From MoCo's own Vision Zero report (PDF page 18):

"Thirty-six percent of pedestrians and cyclists
were at fault in severe and fatal collisions. When
pedestrians are at fault, the top contributing
circumstances were illegally in roadway, failed to
give time and attention, clothing not visible, and
under the influence of alcohol."

Let's not blame only drivers.

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/visionzero/Resources/Files/Vision_Zero_Data_Analysis.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:They need to put up physical roadblocks to slow drivers down. More stoplights and bump outs.

They should also put up fences in median strips to deter pedestrian crossings where it’s not safe.

At the same time, as tragic as each death is, pedestrian fatalities are exceedingly rare when you consider how many people and pedestrian crossings there are in the county each day. When we solve for the problem of roadway fatalities, we need to keep that in mind. Through August fatal pedestrian crashes were up 25 percent this year which sounds like a lot but in actual numbers they increased from 8 to 10.

Well now it’s 10.

But please share, what’s the magic number when we should be concerned?

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To the poster writing "25%": in case you don't know the answer to PP's question, let us help you out --- the answer is the f..king number ZERO!

You could achieve zero but you’d have to eliminate all interactions between pedestrians and cars and pedestrians and bikes for that matter. It’s not going to be zero at any reasonable cost.

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Anonymous wrote:A woman crossing on Viers Mill not too far from this spot was hit and died of her injuries this week.

And July 2025:
"A mother was on her way home from work, crossing Veirs Mill Road within sight of her front door Saturday, when she was hit and killed in Montgomery County, Maryland."

There have been 5 fatalities in this small area of North Kensington/Wheaton since May. Three were in just over 3 weeks in May/June and 2 more in 3 days last week. Go back 18 months and you can add another one.

Why are you combining the two? They have nothing to do with each other. Viers Mill and Ennals is in the heart of commercial Wheaton.

Your Ahab like obsession HARMS efforts to make the community better and safer.

You clearly don't live in the area. People who do spend time in both Wheaton and North Kensington and both suffer from unsafe pedestrian crossings.

I do and that's why I know that they are completely different situations. Although I've never distinguished between North and South Kensington so I guess I'm just out of your loop.

Curious, not confrontational. How do you distinguish between the two areas or have you just never had a need to? Like to explain there are speed cameras on Connecticut in one section but not the other.

Oh, I get it now. This is a nascent "North Bethesda" situation.

I've never had a need to distinguish and since official Kensington is small I call all those unincorporated areas by whichever place they are closer to and add a landmark. ie: Kensington near Kaiser or Kensington near the Mormon Temple.

One thing that brings North Kensington, Kensington Heights and Wheaton together (besides their proximity to each other and two major roads in common - Veirs Mill and University) is that these areas are currently zoned to the Downcounty Consortium for schools. So unlike the other parts of Kensington that get bussed to WJ and BCC, there are a lot of kids that are considered "walkers" for high school whose families can't buy them cars and are walking across six lane roads with limited signalized crossings to get to school.

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Anonymous wrote:A woman crossing on Viers Mill not too far from this spot was hit and died of her injuries this week.

And July 2025:
"A mother was on her way home from work, crossing Veirs Mill Road within sight of her front door Saturday, when she was hit and killed in Montgomery County, Maryland."

There have been 5 fatalities in this small area of North Kensington/Wheaton since May. Three were in just over 3 weeks in May/June and 2 more in 3 days last week. Go back 18 months and you can add another one.

Why are you combining the two? They have nothing to do with each other. Viers Mill and Ennals is in the heart of commercial Wheaton.

Your Ahab like obsession HARMS efforts to make the community better and safer.

You clearly don't live in the area. People who do spend time in both Wheaton and North Kensington and both suffer from unsafe pedestrian crossings.

I do and that's why I know that they are completely different situations. Although I've never distinguished between North and South Kensington so I guess I'm just out of your loop.

Curious, not confrontational. How do you distinguish between the two areas or have you just never had a need to? Like to explain there are speed cameras on Connecticut in one section but not the other.

Oh, I get it now. This is a nascent "North Bethesda" situation.

I've never had a need to distinguish and since official Kensington is small I call all those unincorporated areas by whichever place they are closer to and add a landmark. ie: Kensington near Kaiser or Kensington near the Mormon Temple.

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Anonymous wrote:They need to put up physical roadblocks to slow drivers down. More stoplights and bump outs.

They should also put up fences in median strips to deter pedestrian crossings where it’s not safe.

At the same time, as tragic as each death is, pedestrian fatalities are exceedingly rare when you consider how many people and pedestrian crossings there are in the county each day. When we solve for the problem of roadway fatalities, we need to keep that in mind. Through August fatal pedestrian crashes were up 25 percent this year which sounds like a lot but in actual numbers they increased from 8 to 10.

Well now it’s 10.

But please share, what’s the magic number when we should be concerned?

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To the poster writing "25%": in case you don't know the answer to PP's question, let us help you out --- the answer is the f..king number ZERO!

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Anonymous wrote:A woman crossing on Viers Mill not too far from this spot was hit and died of her injuries this week.

And July 2025:
"A mother was on her way home from work, crossing Veirs Mill Road within sight of her front door Saturday, when she was hit and killed in Montgomery County, Maryland."

There have been 5 fatalities in this small area of North Kensington/Wheaton since May. Three were in just over 3 weeks in May/June and 2 more in 3 days last week. Go back 18 months and you can add another one.

Why are you combining the two? They have nothing to do with each other. Viers Mill and Ennals is in the heart of commercial Wheaton.

Your Ahab like obsession HARMS efforts to make the community better and safer.

You clearly don't live in the area. People who do spend time in both Wheaton and North Kensington and both suffer from unsafe pedestrian crossings.

I do and that's why I know that they are completely different situations. Although I've never distinguished between North and South Kensington so I guess I'm just out of your loop.

Curious, not confrontational. How do you distinguish between the two areas or have you just never had a need to? Like to explain there are speed cameras on Connecticut in one section but not the other.

Oh, I get it now. This is a nascent "North Bethesda" situation.

I've never had a need to distinguish and since official Kensington is small I call all those unincorporated areas by whichever place they are closer to and add a landmark. ie: Kensington near Kaiser or Kensington near the Mormon Temple.

Sigh. It's probably because "South" Kensington couldn't get "North" Chevy Chase (which is already claimed by those in the area immediately south of I-495)

Ah, but sone of South Kensington got Chevy Chase View!

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Anonymous wrote:A woman crossing on Viers Mill not too far from this spot was hit and died of her injuries this week.

And July 2025:
"A mother was on her way home from work, crossing Veirs Mill Road within sight of her front door Saturday, when she was hit and killed in Montgomery County, Maryland."

There have been 5 fatalities in this small area of North Kensington/Wheaton since May. Three were in just over 3 weeks in May/June and 2 more in 3 days last week. Go back 18 months and you can add another one.

Why are you combining the two? They have nothing to do with each other. Viers Mill and Ennals is in the heart of commercial Wheaton.

Your Ahab like obsession HARMS efforts to make the community better and safer.

You clearly don't live in the area. People who do spend time in both Wheaton and North Kensington and both suffer from unsafe pedestrian crossings.

I do and that's why I know that they are completely different situations. Although I've never distinguished between North and South Kensington so I guess I'm just out of your loop.

Curious, not confrontational. How do you distinguish between the two areas or have you just never had a need to? Like to explain there are speed cameras on Connecticut in one section but not the other.

Oh, I get it now. This is a nascent "North Bethesda" situation.

I've never had a need to distinguish and since official Kensington is small I call all those unincorporated areas by whichever place they are closer to and add a landmark. ie: Kensington near Kaiser or Kensington near the Mormon Temple.

Sigh. It's probably because "South" Kensington couldn't get "North" Chevy Chase (which is already claimed by those in the area immediately south of I-495)

Ah, but sone of South Kensington got Chevy Chase View!

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Anonymous wrote:A woman crossing on Viers Mill not too far from this spot was hit and died of her injuries this week.

And July 2025:
"A mother was on her way home from work, crossing Veirs Mill Road within sight of her front door Saturday, when she was hit and killed in Montgomery County, Maryland."

There have been 5 fatalities in this small area of North Kensington/Wheaton since May. Three were in just over 3 weeks in May/June and 2 more in 3 days last week. Go back 18 months and you can add another one.

Why are you combining the two? They have nothing to do with each other. Viers Mill and Ennals is in the heart of commercial Wheaton.

Your Ahab like obsession HARMS efforts to make the community better and safer.

You clearly don't live in the area. People who do spend time in both Wheaton and North Kensington and both suffer from unsafe pedestrian crossings.

I do and that's why I know that they are completely different situations. Although I've never distinguished between North and South Kensington so I guess I'm just out of your loop.

Curious, not confrontational. How do you distinguish between the two areas or have you just never had a need to? Like to explain there are speed cameras on Connecticut in one section but not the other.

Oh, I get it now. This is a nascent "North Bethesda" situation.

I've never had a need to distinguish and since official Kensington is small I call all those unincorporated areas by whichever place they are closer to and add a landmark. ie: Kensington near Kaiser or Kensington near the Mormon Temple.

Sigh. It's probably because "South" Kensington couldn't get "North" Chevy Chase (which is already claimed by those in the area immediately south of I-495)

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A woman crossing on Viers Mill not too far from this spot was hit and died of her injuries this week.

And July 2025:
"A mother was on her way home from work, crossing Veirs Mill Road within sight of her front door Saturday, when she was hit and killed in Montgomery County, Maryland."

There have been 5 fatalities in this small area of North Kensington/Wheaton since May. Three were in just over 3 weeks in May/June and 2 more in 3 days last week. Go back 18 months and you can add another one.

Why are you combining the two? They have nothing to do with each other. Viers Mill and Ennals is in the heart of commercial Wheaton.

Your Ahab like obsession HARMS efforts to make the community better and safer.

You clearly don't live in the area. People who do spend time in both Wheaton and North Kensington and both suffer from unsafe pedestrian crossings.

I do and that's why I know that they are completely different situations. Although I've never distinguished between North and South Kensington so I guess I'm just out of your loop.

Curious, not confrontational. How do you distinguish between the two areas or have you just never had a need to? Like to explain there are speed cameras on Connecticut in one section but not the other.

Oh, I get it now. This is a nascent "North Bethesda" situation.

I've never had a need to distinguish and since official Kensington is small I call all those unincorporated areas by whichever place they are closer to and add a landmark. ie: Kensington near Kaiser or Kensington near the Mormon Temple.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They need to put up physical roadblocks to slow drivers down. More stoplights and bump outs.

They should also put up fences in median strips to deter pedestrian crossings where it’s not safe.

At the same time, as tragic as each death is, pedestrian fatalities are exceedingly rare when you consider how many people and pedestrian crossings there are in the county each day. When we solve for the problem of roadway fatalities, we need to keep that in mind. Through August fatal pedestrian crashes were up 25 percent this year which sounds like a lot but in actual numbers they increased from 8 to 10.

Well now it’s 10.

But please share, what’s the magic number when we should be concerned?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A woman crossing on Viers Mill not too far from this spot was hit and died of her injuries this week.

And July 2025:
"A mother was on her way home from work, crossing Veirs Mill Road within sight of her front door Saturday, when she was hit and killed in Montgomery County, Maryland."

There have been 5 fatalities in this small area of North Kensington/Wheaton since May. Three were in just over 3 weeks in May/June and 2 more in 3 days last week. Go back 18 months and you can add another one.

Why are you combining the two? They have nothing to do with each other. Viers Mill and Ennals is in the heart of commercial Wheaton.

Your Ahab like obsession HARMS efforts to make the community better and safer.

You clearly don't live in the area. People who do spend time in both Wheaton and North Kensington and both suffer from unsafe pedestrian crossings.

I do and that's why I know that they are completely different situations. Although I've never distinguished between North and South Kensington so I guess I'm just out of your loop.

Not the PP you responded to. South Kensington (north of Beach drive & CT Ave to what is it Knowles or to the fire station on CT?) does have a few cameras along CT Ave. Who advocated for those? "South" Kensington $$$ talks?