Anonymous
10/02/2025 07:14
Subject: Re:Did Noah really live
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In the Qur'an is the following verse (29:14) translated in English:
And We certainly sent Noah to his people, and he remained among them a thousand years minus fifty years, and the flood seized them while they were wrongdoers.
Interestingly, there are two different Arabic words used in the verse that are both translated to "years".
Some scholars believed Noah actually lived longer than 950 years, with the 950 years being before the flood and then he lived for some time after the flood.
But the Quran was written after the Hebrew Bible, so the fact that it has the same general story for Noah doesn’t mean it’s literally true.
And the Bible was written after the Indian Vedas. Entirely possible it happened but didn't happen to the people who wrote the Bible.
Fail. No, it is not "entirely possible it happened".
DP. Fail. I'm the poster with the friend who participated in a scientific expedition in the Black Sea. They found absolute evidence that a flood happened that would have affected the Bosphorus. It didn't affect the Mediterranean and isn't the Gilgamesh flood, and who can say about animals going in two-by-two. But a flood absolutely happened in the region and people living in Anatolia and other parts of the region would have known it. For them, this was "the world," so to them, the world was flooded.
The Mediterranean has disappeared and reappeared multiple times during the Earth's history. Currently Africa is moving towards Europe, and the Mediterranean will disappear again.
No worries. Just write another story.
Anonymous
10/02/2025 07:12
Subject: Re:Did Noah really live
Anonymous wrote:I mean, it is kind of insane that we refer back to some random book - that no one even knows how it was written - to make major decisions in our lives. I mean, are the Jews really God's chosen people? What does that mean for the rest of us? Does God have other choices out there? Are the elephants God's chosen too, over say, the zebras?
It's not a "random book" like the Book of Mormon. It's a compilation of centuries of oral and written history, such as it was understood by the people of the time in that place.
Anonymous
09/30/2025 17:12
Subject: Re:Did Noah really live
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In the Qur'an is the following verse (29:14) translated in English:
And We certainly sent Noah to his people, and he remained among them a thousand years minus fifty years, and the flood seized them while they were wrongdoers.
Interestingly, there are two different Arabic words used in the verse that are both translated to "years".
Some scholars believed Noah actually lived longer than 950 years, with the 950 years being before the flood and then he lived for some time after the flood.
But the Quran was written after the Hebrew Bible, so the fact that it has the same general story for Noah doesn’t mean it’s literally true.
And the Bible was written after the Indian Vedas. Entirely possible it happened but didn't happen to the people who wrote the Bible.
Fail. No, it is not "entirely possible it happened".
DP. Fail. I'm the poster with the friend who participated in a scientific expedition in the Black Sea. They found absolute evidence that a flood happened that would have affected the Bosphorus. It didn't affect the Mediterranean and isn't the Gilgamesh flood, and who can say about animals going in two-by-two. But a flood absolutely happened in the region and people living in Anatolia and other parts of the region would have known it. For them, this was "the world," so to them, the world was flooded.
The Mediterranean has disappeared and reappeared multiple times during the Earth's history. Currently Africa is moving towards Europe, and the Mediterranean will disappear again.
Anonymous
09/29/2025 08:53
Subject: Re:Did Noah really live
Anonymous wrote:I mean, it is kind of insane that we refer back to some random book - that no one even knows how it was written - to make major decisions in our lives. I mean, are the Jews really God's chosen people? What does that mean for the rest of us? Does God have other choices out there? Are the elephants God's chosen too, over say, the zebras?
And they were only God's chosen people till 500 years after the Torah God changed his mind. Try to make sense of that.
Anonymous
09/29/2025 08:53
Subject: Re:Did Noah really live
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Flood or no flood, is it possible humans lived hundreds of years in the past? And most importantly, flood or no flood, do you think it is possible to live 200-300 years now?
Obviously not. None of the Bible is literally true. There’s not even really any evidence that the Israelites ever were enslaved in Egypt, and that’s the heart of the Torah.
The Torah was written by people who had knowledge of the Egyptian government since a lot of it is duplicative instruction. That's why Moses isn't really one of the enslaved so they could make up a reason why they borrowed from the Egyptians. What's so funny is even in their story, it was really an Egyptian that helped them. Not the enslaved jews themselves.
Anonymous
09/29/2025 06:46
Subject: Re:Did Noah really live
Anonymous wrote:I mean, it is kind of insane that we refer back to some random book - that no one even knows how it was written - to make major decisions in our lives. I mean, are the Jews really God's chosen people? What does that mean for the rest of us? Does God have other choices out there? Are the elephants God's chosen too, over say, the zebras?
No, because elephants aren't smart enough to write down that they're better than the zebras.
Anonymous
09/28/2025 17:02
Subject: Did Noah really live
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The most confusing part for me is how Noah's family was able to repopulate the planet by themselves. I think everyone else was drowned per Bible.
INCEST - if you believe the Bible. It never mentions incest, but we know that they had to do it to repopulate the planet.
That’s pretty disgusting. So we are all cousins and half brothers/sisters?
No, it was a long time ago.
But we are from one family. How come some turn out to be white, black, latinos, and asians?
God did it.
God did what?
Anonymous
09/28/2025 17:00
Subject: Re:Did Noah really live
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Flood or no flood, is it possible humans lived hundreds of years in the past? And most importantly, flood or no flood, do you think it is possible to live 200-300 years now?
Of course not.
You are happy to believe in a biblical flood, a resurrection of a dead man, and a God no one has seen, but not an extended lifespan? Why is that?
Those are ridiculous, too.
Anonymous
09/28/2025 11:47
Subject: Re:Did Noah really live
Anonymous wrote:I mean, it is kind of insane that we refer back to some random book - that no one even knows how it was written - to make major decisions in our lives. I mean, are the Jews really God's chosen people? What does that mean for the rest of us? Does God have other choices out there? Are the elephants God's chosen too, over say, the zebras?
FWIW, from a Jewish standpoint, being "God's chosen people" means we were chosen to have to follow lots of rules and obligations, not that we were chosen to be the best. Other people don't have to follow those rules. (There's obviously also some business about the Land of Israel being given to us, but since I don't consider the Bible to be literally true, I also don't consider that to be binding.)
Anonymous
09/28/2025 10:21
Subject: Re:Did Noah really live
I mean, it is kind of insane that we refer back to some random book - that no one even knows how it was written - to make major decisions in our lives. I mean, are the Jews really God's chosen people? What does that mean for the rest of us? Does God have other choices out there? Are the elephants God's chosen too, over say, the zebras?
Anonymous
09/28/2025 10:15
Subject: Did Noah really live
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The most confusing part for me is how Noah's family was able to repopulate the planet by themselves. I think everyone else was drowned per Bible.
INCEST - if you believe the Bible. It never mentions incest, but we know that they had to do it to repopulate the planet.
That’s pretty disgusting. So we are all cousins and half brothers/sisters?
No, it was a long time ago.
But we are from one family. How come some turn out to be white, black, latinos, and asians?
God did it.
Anonymous
09/27/2025 23:25
Subject: Re:Did Noah really live
Anonymous wrote:Flood or no flood, is it possible humans lived hundreds of years in the past? And most importantly, flood or no flood, do you think it is possible to live 200-300 years now?
Obviously not. None of the Bible is literally true. There’s not even really any evidence that the Israelites ever were enslaved in Egypt, and that’s the heart of the Torah.
Anonymous
09/27/2025 21:55
Subject: Re:Did Noah really live
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Flood or no flood, is it possible humans lived hundreds of years in the past? And most importantly, flood or no flood, do you think it is possible to live 200-300 years now?
Of course not.
You are happy to believe in a biblical flood, a resurrection of a dead man, and a God no one has seen, but not an extended lifespan? Why is that?
DP. You need to chill. Find a hobby that doesn't involve spending 24/7 being aggressively hostile on a mom's website. And if expanding your interests feels like too much, I hear there are even atheist websites you could hang out on, and maybe they'd be more receptive to your operatic/OTT outrage? Are you MAGA by any chance?
LOL. You just can't handle the point being raised.
Huh. I've already said I think the flood story is metaphorical, even if there might be a historical kernel underneath it. I'm also the poster with the friend who went on a deep-sea diving expedition in the Black Sea and was part of a scientific team that found proof for a (localized) flood, and you still haven't responded to that with anything besides insults. Keep on doing you....
Anonymous
09/27/2025 21:45
Subject: Did Noah really live
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The most confusing part for me is how Noah's family was able to repopulate the planet by themselves. I think everyone else was drowned per Bible.
INCEST - if you believe the Bible. It never mentions incest, but we know that they had to do it to repopulate the planet.
That’s pretty disgusting. So we are all cousins and half brothers/sisters?
No, it was a long time ago.
But we are from one family. How come some turn out to be white, black, latinos, and asians?
Anonymous
09/27/2025 21:43
Subject: Re:Did Noah really live
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Flood or no flood, is it possible humans lived hundreds of years in the past? And most importantly, flood or no flood, do you think it is possible to live 200-300 years now?
Of course not.
You are happy to believe in a biblical flood, a resurrection of a dead man, and a God no one has seen, but not an extended lifespan? Why is that?
Because it's not in the Bible and won't get you into heaven.