Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Op here, just saw this thread pop back up!
Teen is a boy. It was mom that moved across the city, not dad and it was mom that teen didn't want to spend time with. He wanted to be at our house. He is very close to his dad and his younger sibling and his pets.
When teen turned 16 mom gave up trying to get him to stick the schedule and told him to do whatever he wants. So for the last few months he has mostly stayed with us but now actually chooses to go and visit her. Since he has control and can leave when he wants, he doesn't mind visiting now and their relationship has improved without the battling over custody. They text more often and she will call to meet him for dinner during the week on her way home from work and he will bus over for a few hours on the weekend etc. He spends less time with her but their time together is much more enjoyable and thankfully he seems keen to rebuild that relationship on his terms.
We haven't changed anything legally or in the paperwork but it seems to be working itself out for now.
You are giving this kid too much power.
Anonymous wrote:Been there, done that. Learn from my mistakes.
At this point, the courts are so backlogged that any real determination won't occur for at least a year. At that point, the child (16) is seen as having 80%+ authority over the determination.
Play into this. Don't file, let douchebag file, then postpone, do bare minimum etc
Don't force kid to go over....and in due time this will be easily and affordably resolved.
Anonymous wrote:Op here, just saw this thread pop back up!
Teen is a boy. It was mom that moved across the city, not dad and it was mom that teen didn't want to spend time with. He wanted to be at our house. He is very close to his dad and his younger sibling and his pets.
When teen turned 16 mom gave up trying to get him to stick the schedule and told him to do whatever he wants. So for the last few months he has mostly stayed with us but now actually chooses to go and visit her. Since he has control and can leave when he wants, he doesn't mind visiting now and their relationship has improved without the battling over custody. They text more often and she will call to meet him for dinner during the week on her way home from work and he will bus over for a few hours on the weekend etc. He spends less time with her but their time together is much more enjoyable and thankfully he seems keen to rebuild that relationship on his terms.
We haven't changed anything legally or in the paperwork but it seems to be working itself out for now.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:From follow-up post from OP:
“The parent the teen doesn’t want to see moved and is on the other side of the city now quite far from school and friends and isn’t amenable to teen spending a lot of time with friends on the weekend.”
This parent wasn’t forced to relocate for work; they’re still in the same city. Inviting friends to stay doesn’t sound like an option because this parent wants their teen’s time and attention to him/herself.
This issue is also bigger than the longer commute to school from this parent’s house and not getting to see friends on the weekends. Teen isn’t getting along with this parent, even though they are a loving parent. The problem isn’t even that teen sees this parent as too strict; OP says both households are equally strict. Teen just feels misunderstood and dismissed by this parent. These are not issues the other parent can fix, although, of course, they should do what they can to facilitate the relationship between teen and this parent.
My divorce attorney says we parents can make any agreement we want, but teenagers will vote with their feet. Both parents forcing teen to spend half their time somewhere they don’t want to be, with a longer school commute and no friends on the weekends, will only damage the teen’s relationship with both parents. Parent who moved further away and doesn’t want teen to hang out with friends on the weekends needs to offer more flexibility. If they make everything their way or the highway, teen will choose the highway.
OP need to offer flexibility and a reasonable arrangment. They are using friends, etc. as an excuse to damage the relationship with Dad and that's not ok. Friends don't come before parents. Terrible parenting. Maybe they moved where they could afford given child support and extras. It sounds like OP is setting this up for her needs. Or, its fake.
At 15? They sure as hell do.
OP, with the circumstances you’ve described and the age of the teenager, you have an excellent case to get custody modified to include the preference of the teen. Pursue it.
And no, weird obsessive PP, I’m not OP, not a sock puppet and this is my first comment in this thread. Ask Jeff.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I make it clear to my teen that he needs to make it work. 1) this won't be the last time he has to deal with difficult personalities 2) he needs college to be paid for 3) he will someday get to control the relationship. For now, he deals with it.
Couldn't it also be if 1) sometimes family can be hard to deal with but we try to figure out a way because we love one another and support each other 2) parent is making a financial commitment to better their kids' lives and that shouldn't be dismissed 3) relationships should not be based on controlling one another but by mutual affection and trust
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:From follow-up post from OP:
“The parent the teen doesn’t want to see moved and is on the other side of the city now quite far from school and friends and isn’t amenable to teen spending a lot of time with friends on the weekend.”
This parent wasn’t forced to relocate for work; they’re still in the same city. Inviting friends to stay doesn’t sound like an option because this parent wants their teen’s time and attention to him/herself.
This issue is also bigger than the longer commute to school from this parent’s house and not getting to see friends on the weekends. Teen isn’t getting along with this parent, even though they are a loving parent. The problem isn’t even that teen sees this parent as too strict; OP says both households are equally strict. Teen just feels misunderstood and dismissed by this parent. These are not issues the other parent can fix, although, of course, they should do what they can to facilitate the relationship between teen and this parent.
My divorce attorney says we parents can make any agreement we want, but teenagers will vote with their feet. Both parents forcing teen to spend half their time somewhere they don’t want to be, with a longer school commute and no friends on the weekends, will only damage the teen’s relationship with both parents. Parent who moved further away and doesn’t want teen to hang out with friends on the weekends needs to offer more flexibility. If they make everything their way or the highway, teen will choose the highway.
OP need to offer flexibility and a reasonable arrangment. They are using friends, etc. as an excuse to damage the relationship with Dad and that's not ok. Friends don't come before parents. Terrible parenting. Maybe they moved where they could afford given child support and extras. It sounds like OP is setting this up for her needs. Or, its fake.
Anonymous wrote:Teen is right. Nobody would want that kind of commute and nobody would want to miss out on all friend activities every other weekend.
Dad is not parenting appropriately for the age of the child, and choices have consequences.
Anonymous wrote:At 15, kids get a say. If kid doesn't like the current custody schedule, you need to come up with something new. Kids change. Your teen is telling you both that the current plan is not working. Instead of forcing the issue, come up with something better. Maybe dinner with one parent a few times a week is all kid can handle right now. The goal of custody arrangements is to ensure the child's interests are being met, not he parents.