Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 23:08     Subject: The end of higher ed Diversity
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How come there aren’t many Asians on the basketball, football, or baseball teams? Especially at these D1 schools that are in the T20.

Can we be honest and say that the Asian American and Asian international students don’t bother to talk to people outside of their ethnicity? It’s the same as it was then and it is now. They don’t talk to people of other ethnicities and only hang out with each other speaking their native language. Are they too scared to talk people outside of their ethnic group?


Why would I want to make a distinction? They all got squinty eyes.

Asians as a racial group tend to be shorter and smaller in build, hence
fewer on basketball/football/baseball teams. That doesn’t mean they don’t
love to follow/watch the sport. A more relevant question is why whites and hispanics are underrepresented too on these teams. Also Asian-AMERICANS’ native language is English. So racist not to make a distinction between Americans of Asian descent and international students from Asia. How about white people who only hang out with white people. As a group, they are the least likely to have a friend outside of their own racial group.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 23:04     Subject: The end of higher ed Diversity
Anonymous wrote:How come there aren’t many Asians on the basketball, football, or baseball teams? Especially at these D1 schools that are in the T20.

Can we be honest and say that the Asian American and Asian international students don’t bother to talk to people outside of their ethnicity? It’s the same as it was then and it is now. They don’t talk to people of other ethnicities and only hang out with each other speaking their native language. Are they too scared to talk people outside of their ethnic group?


Plenty of Asians in T20 sports.
For example, https://gocrimson.com/sports/mens-fencing/roster

Asians have higher scores in every aspects including extracurricular, leadership, interviews, etc.

They don't ask for free handouts at least.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 23:04     Subject: The end of higher ed Diversity
Anonymous wrote:How come there aren’t many Asians on the basketball, football, or baseball teams? Especially at these D1 schools that are in the T20.

Can we be honest and say that the Asian American and Asian international students don’t bother to talk to people outside of their ethnicity? It’s the same as it was then and it is now. They don’t talk to people of other ethnicities and only hang out with each other speaking their native language. Are they too scared to talk people outside of their ethnic group?


As an Asian American who grew up with mostly non-Asian American friends, I’m wondering where you live and where have you been exposed to Asian Americans who aren’t willing to make friends outside of their ethnic group?
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 23:01     Subject: The end of higher ed Diversity
Anonymous wrote:How come there aren’t many Asians on the basketball, football, or baseball teams? Especially at these D1 schools that are in the T20.

Can we be honest and say that the Asian American and Asian international students don’t bother to talk to people outside of their ethnicity? It’s the same as it was then and it is now. They don’t talk to people of other ethnicities and only hang out with each other speaking their native language. Are they too scared to talk people outside of their ethnic group?


Asians as a racial group tend to be shorter and smaller in build, hence
fewer on basketball/football/baseball teams. That doesn’t mean they don’t
love to follow/watch the sport. A more relevant question is why whites and hispanics are underrepresented too on these teams. Also Asian-AMERICANS’ native language is English. So racist not to make a distinction between Americans of Asian descent and international students from Asia. How about white people who only hang out with white people. As a group, they are the least likely to have a friend outside of their own racial group.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 23:00     Subject: The end of higher ed Diversity
Anonymous wrote:I honestly don’t get it. It’s 2025. Why does race-blind admissions not lead to a more balanced class naturally?


Because effort is not equally applied by all groups.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 22:59     Subject: Re:The end of higher ed Diversity
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Students will attend schools their credentials qualify them for. Legally and morally, skin color is not a relevant qualification.

In theory, we should have a better distribution. It makes no real sense that there’s so many Asian students in higher ed.


Asians study more than others. More practice = better results.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 22:55     Subject: The end of higher ed Diversity
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Massive drop in black student population at Princeton University: https://www.dailyprincetonian.com/article/2025/09/princeton-news-stlife-five-percent-class-of-2029-identify-black-african-american


The fact that there was such a notable drop shows just how much of a thumb on the scale was being given to race conscious admissions during the era pf affirmative action.


This is the narrative that most want to believe. The truth is we don't know how much it helped from what's been released and one or two year's worth of data.


We have years and years of test scores
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 22:52     Subject: The end of higher ed Diversity
Anonymous wrote:Another black here. Please stop using the term assimilation. This is definitely racist. If you just don’t like Asians, that’s fine. Use some other terms. Keep using assimilation gets a lot of people angry.


Assimilation. Assimilation. Assimilation.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 22:52     Subject: The end of higher ed Diversity
Anonymous wrote:For years, UMC and wealthy black students have been able to glide into T20 schools because they check the right race box. We’ve all seen it in the private schools. Now everyone has to compete.

The focus should be on smart FGLI students who don’t get all the privileges and benefits of wealthy private school students who use race as a hook.


It was basically a hook. Now all the black kids at Princeton will actually belong there.

FGLI shouldn't really get a preference either.
If you want to help poor kids, then give then meet full financial need but they need to get in under their own steam.
Otherwise we will see a lot of poor kids at the bottom of the class like we did with the black kids.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 22:52     Subject: The end of higher ed Diversity
How come there aren’t many Asians on the basketball, football, or baseball teams? Especially at these D1 schools that are in the T20.

Can we be honest and say that the Asian American and Asian international students don’t bother to talk to people outside of their ethnicity? It’s the same as it was then and it is now. They don’t talk to people of other ethnicities and only hang out with each other speaking their native language. Are they too scared to talk people outside of their ethnic group?
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 22:51     Subject: The end of higher ed Diversity
Another black here. Please stop using the term assimilation. This is definitely racist. If you just don’t like Asians, that’s fine. Use some other terms. Keep using assimilation gets a lot of people angry.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 22:48     Subject: The end of higher ed Diversity
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Assimilation is a racist term. If we have to assimilate, we shall assimilate into Indian tribes starting from the mayflower era.

No it isn’t. It’s not racist to point out that Asian American students come to these schools- make the culture grossly sterile, competitive, and suicide-inducing, and only hang out in all-Asian groups. This means they don’t get the benefits of the liberal arts, only engaging in Asian affairs and Asian-centric education and classroom spaces. It makes the education worse, and they feel entitled to university positions.


As a black, I am offended by this term assimilation. If maga doesn’t like these schools, you can go to your Washington & Lee.


DP. Another black here. I can’t believe this term is still being publicly used today. Assimilation has been forced upon African Americans. This is certainly a racist term. No, it’s a racist practice on blacks for a long time.


You can assimilate as a black person yet still maintain your black identity. Really not that hard. Everyone doesn't have to be Carlton from Fresh Prince - agreed that is extreme. You can be Theo from Cosby who clearly was proud of his blackness but also fit in very well with all groups.

But you can just keep blaming everything on racism. Unfortunately, there is still way too much racism in the world. But this is not an example of it.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 22:43     Subject: The end of higher ed Diversity
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Assimilation is a racist term. If we have to assimilate, we shall assimilate into Indian tribes starting from the mayflower era.

No it isn’t. It’s not racist to point out that Asian American students come to these schools- make the culture grossly sterile, competitive, and suicide-inducing, and only hang out in all-Asian groups. This means they don’t get the benefits of the liberal arts, only engaging in Asian affairs and Asian-centric education and classroom spaces. It makes the education worse, and they feel entitled to university positions.


As a black, I am offended by this term assimilation. If maga doesn’t like these schools, you can go to your Washington & Lee.


DP. Another black here. I can’t believe this term is still being publicly used today. Assimilation has been forced upon African Americans. This is certainly a racist term. No, it’s a racist practice on blacks for a long time.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 22:38     Subject: The end of higher ed Diversity
Assimilation is a complex process. A generation ago, many immigrant kids felt the need to be like everyone else because people just weren’t as aware of other cultures back then. Now social media/internet has made the world smaller and some things that used to be “ethnic” have gone “mainstream”. White/black/Hispanic kids enjoy boba tea and K-pop music and Indian street food. Kids of all backgrounds cheer on their college football teams. Asian kids have broken out of the chess/math club mold and now you see Asian names on college sports rosters. I’m just not sure what the anti-Asian posters mean when they talk about Asian kids not assimilating or white kids avoiding Asian-heavy colleges.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 22:37     Subject: The end of higher ed Diversity
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Assimilation is a racist term. If we have to assimilate, we shall assimilate into Indian tribes starting from the mayflower era.

No it isn’t. It’s not racist to point out that Asian American students come to these schools- make the culture grossly sterile, competitive, and suicide-inducing, and only hang out in all-Asian groups. This means they don’t get the benefits of the liberal arts, only engaging in Asian affairs and Asian-centric education and classroom spaces. It makes the education worse, and they feel entitled to university positions.


wow, broad strokes indeed. How about you share with us your generalizations about White Southern redneck culture, black BLM activist culture, and Viva La Raza hispanic student culture? Since you seem to be so knowledgeable about all Asians. The mask is truly off in these anonymous forums. I worry for the American experiment in multiculturalism.


I think most posters have made it extremely clear that this does not apply to every member of these groups and that there are plenty of exceptions. So just stop it. But stereotypes exist for a reason.