If kid is interested in athletics don’t go to the NESCAC. Today Holy Cross played URI at home in front of over 14,000 people. No selective LAC has the athletic support like HC.

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Anonymous wrote:Hamilton and Middlebury are fine schools but not in the same conversation of Amherst or Bowdoin and Williams.

Nonsense, all were bunched together at the top until 2019. There are only two changes since then.

1. An increase in the DEI weighting factors
2. The change in resources per student calculation to use the 12 month number rather than the fall number.

Nothing actually changed at any of these schools.

EXACTLY!!!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s face it the NESCAC is Williams and Amherst. Only 2 with any prestige.

agree but kids are only even there for the most part because their ivy aspirations were derailed -

Haha, not!

It is the same poster pretending to. E two people. They have done this before.

And this poster is a singular idiot.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hamilton and Middlebury are fine schools but not in the same conversation of Amherst or Bowdoin and Williams.

Nonsense, all were bunched together at the top until 2019. There are only two changes since then.

1. An increase in the DEI weighting factors
2. The change in resources per student calculation to use the 12 month number rather than the fall number.

Nothing actually changed at any of these schools.

this is the most ridiculous post on the thread - it’s always been Amherst and Williams, then everyone else. Maybe Wes was included before they tailed off in the early 2000s

Other than the Amherst-Williams football game, NESCAC sports look like high schools.

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Anonymous wrote:I know people who got into Dartmouth, Brown and Yale, but not Williams. I also know people who turned down Princeton and Brown for Williams. It happens.

I know a girls lx player at Brown who was turned down by Tufts and Middlebury. Probably not the norm but it happens.

NESCACs have higher academic standards for athletes than Ivies do.

Anonymous wrote:I know people who got into Dartmouth, Brown and Yale, but not Williams. I also know people who turned down Princeton and Brown for Williams. It happens.

I know a girls lx player at Brown who was turned down by Tufts and Middlebury. Probably not the norm but it happens.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s face it the NESCAC is Williams and Amherst. Only 2 with any prestige.

agree but kids are only even there for the most part because their ivy aspirations were derailed -

Haha, not!

It is the same poster pretending to. E two people. They have done this before.

Anonymous wrote:any athlete who has the academic chops to get into the upper Nescac schools would prefer to be at an ivy league- they just weren’t good enough at their sport to get recruited. Nescac is the land of failed ivy wannabees. I think most would choose the dregs of the ivy - Cornell - over Amherst and Williams

Mine chose a NESCAC over three Patriot league schools including HC and Colgate. D3 is a breed life and the NESCAC teams are better than half of the Patriots. They were an Ivy recruit until an injury but plenty of teammates didn’t try Ivy.

Anonymous wrote:Try as they have for many months, Midd boosters can’t face the facts. Your school Middlebury is no longer in the same grouping of Amherst, Willams, or now Bowdoin. Its endowment is half of the other three schools. Applications have dropped at Midd and they had a financial deficit. Don’t need to hear the same rebuttal that a grad from the 70’s is the COO of some bank who cares. Times have changed agree with several others Colby, Hamilton, Midd, and Bates are interchangeable. Have not any interest in these small, remote schools with horrible weather and no location diversity as in host towns. These are not Ute 60s and 70s when those schools plateaued. They appeal to a small full pay private school clientele whose kids can’t get into the Ivies, Duke, and Stanford.

You are nonsensically stupid. Facts are friendly and I am sure that the fine folks at Middlebury are quite happy your kid didn’t get in.

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Anonymous wrote:Hamilton and Middlebury are fine schools but not in the same conversation of Amherst or Bowdoin and Williams.

Bowdoin boosters have entered the chat, trying to lump B in with WASP. Not happening. Stats of Bowdoin kids SAT, ACT, etc) are nearly identical to Middlebury’s. And neither are at AWS level.

You might want to look at the stats before you make that statement. They are all basically the same along with a few others.

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Anonymous wrote:Hamilton and Middlebury are nowhere near the prestige level of Amherst and Williams.

Agree. Not saying this is the end all or be all but this statement is true

False

Anonymous wrote:Hamilton and Middlebury are fine schools but not in the same conversation of Amherst or Bowdoin and Williams.

Nonsense, all were bunched together at the top until 2019. There are only two changes since then.

1. An increase in the DEI weighting factors
2. The change in resources per student calculation to use the 12 month number rather than the fall number.

Nothing actually changed at any of these schools.

Anonymous wrote:No one is turning down an Ivy unless they prefer sleepy Williamstown.

I will say from what i’ve heard (anecdotally from a couple of grads), being an athlete at a school like Williams or Amherst can be a very cool experience. Isolation of Williamstown aside, plenty of social life between the sports teams with friendly, attractive, and all-american type kids; pretty intimate academic experience; and alumni support that’s almost unrivaled - especially for athletes. If you are an athlete and willing to hustle to network with alumns, you will essentially be guaranteed opportunities that are considered extremely prestigious by most T20 grads. If your kid has that rare opportunity to be an athlete at Williams or Amherst, it can be a pretty magical 4 years that could help set you up on a great path. Would I take Dartmouth or Princeton over them? yes, but not by much

I know people who got into Dartmouth, Brown and Yale, but not Williams. I also know people who turned down Princeton and Brown for Williams. It happens.