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jsteele wrote:Hamas has repeatedly accepted U.S. ceasefire and prisoner exchange proposals. This is Netanyahu's way of refusing. He wants war.

Jeff, while this may be true, isn’t part of the problem that Hamas leadership and monied members live safely outside Gaza in places like US-friendly (if not allied) states? I don’t co done Israel’s strikes but it doesn’t seem like the Gazan / Palestinian leadership acts in the interests of its people because the leaders don’t live the life of the people.

No that is not a problem. That is an Israeli propaganda talking point.

So the reports are untrue and the lso-called leaders in Qatari were imposters?. The leaders are largely living in Gaza?

Why would anyone believe Israel? They lie all the time.

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jsteele wrote:Hamas has repeatedly accepted U.S. ceasefire and prisoner exchange proposals. This is Netanyahu's way of refusing. He wants war.

Qatar condemned Israel's bombing of Syria, then an hour later Israel bombs Qatar.

https://thepeninsulaqatar.com/article/09/09/2025/qatar-strongly-condemns-israeli-occupations-bombing-of-several-sites-in-syria

This will bring Qatar and Israel closer together. This is just the Israelis agreeing to establish diplomatic and trade relationship with Qatar. The population of Qatar will rise up and overthrow Hamas. Qatar was building nuclear weapons. Qatar is antisemitic. Qatar was falling under Turkey’s influence. High level Hamas and or weapon stockpiles were taken out by Israel. All were hiding in elementary schools, power plants and hospitals. Israel demands more bombs and arms from the US. US Congress demand Trump attack Qatar and thank the Israelis for attacking this rogue country.

Next up Saudi and Turkey!

I wonder what kind of mental illness Zionists suffer from. You want to engage the entire region at war from Turkey to Iran to Tunisia during a time the United States is weary of both war and that region? Lol. Good luck kid.

You should note that historically every Israeli state started to crumble around the eighty year mark due to wars. Netanyahu is repeating history

Please just be careful with the rhetoric. Many American Jews including me, are horrified by what Netanyahu is doing. He is a madman.

Then make it clear you are disassociating yourself from Israel. Show us by your deeds how much you object to those actions. Quit contributing to Israel, its causes, AIPAC, ADL, etc. Let those who support Netanyahu stay and become a pariah state. They can fight Iran and North Korea for the worst.

Look, I am anti_Zionism, but your post here borders on Semitic. American Jews do not have de facto loyalty to Israeli government, and do not de facto do all the things you say they need to stop. Such gross stereotyping. They don't need to prove anything to you.

DP that is a convenient argument. Though the same argument does not seem to work for the Palestinians.

I also don't think American Palestinians need to go around proving they are anti-hamas either. It's not good for Palestinians to be anti-semitic or for Jews to be islamophobes, but you ARE demanding a purity test for American Jews here. That is gross. It is this kind of phrasing and stereotyping that mistakenly in part (or not, in some cases) leads people to believe that the anti_zionist movement is inherently anti-semitic.

Have you not noticed that the left in the US is all about purity tets and eating their own. I wish American Israelis and Palestinians would unite and lead the people in their ancestral homeland to an amicable and workable solution instead of taking sides.

Oh yes it is the “left” in the US that is the problem. Those people are just not as flexible as you are in terms of genocide, ethnic cleansing, the never ending wars, etc. Maybe if the “left” held a march chanting we will not be replaced by Jews you would feel better?

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jsteele wrote:Hamas has repeatedly accepted U.S. ceasefire and prisoner exchange proposals. This is Netanyahu's way of refusing. He wants war.

Jeff, while this may be true, isn’t part of the problem that Hamas leadership and monied members live safely outside Gaza in places like US-friendly (if not allied) states? I don’t co done Israel’s strikes but it doesn’t seem like the Gazan / Palestinian leadership acts in the interests of its people because the leaders don’t live the life of the people.

No that is not a problem. That is an Israeli propaganda talking point.

So the reports are untrue and the lso-called leaders in Qatari were imposters?. The leaders are largely living in Gaza?

Who do you believe negotiated prior prisoner exchanges; Imposters?

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jsteele wrote:Hamas has repeatedly accepted U.S. ceasefire and prisoner exchange proposals. This is Netanyahu's way of refusing. He wants war.

Jeff, while this may be true, isn’t part of the problem that Hamas leadership and monied members live safely outside Gaza in places like US-friendly (if not allied) states? I don’t co done Israel’s strikes but it doesn’t seem like the Gazan / Palestinian leadership acts in the interests of its people because the leaders don’t live the life of the people.

Do you think that the Hamas leadership in Gaza has any hope of surviving negotiations with Israel? Leaders outside are the only ones who can negotiate for Hamas.

Also, the outside Hamas leaders were famously not informed about October 7. Holding them responsible for it as Israel is doing is disingenuous.

I really don't know how after all that has happened it is not absolutely obvious to everyone that Netanyahu wants endless war. He will do anything that he can to sabotage opportunities to stop the fighting.

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jsteele wrote:Hamas has repeatedly accepted U.S. ceasefire and prisoner exchange proposals. This is Netanyahu's way of refusing. He wants war.

Jeff, while this may be true, isn’t part of the problem that Hamas leadership and monied members live safely outside Gaza in places like US-friendly (if not allied) states? I don’t co done Israel’s strikes but it doesn’t seem like the Gazan / Palestinian leadership acts in the interests of its people because the leaders don’t live the life of the people.

No that is not a problem. That is an Israeli propaganda talking point.

So the reports are untrue and the lso-called leaders in Qatari were imposters?. The leaders are largely living in Gaza?

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Anonymous wrote:Israel is showing there is no refuge for the Hamas terrorists. No more living peacefully high on the hog in Doha while you starve the people in Gaza. Perhaps Qatar is thinking twice about harboring and financing these terrorists.

Qatar issued a statement months ago that it "evicted" all Hamas leaders from the country. How come they are still there?

Well Israel called Biden Hamas. So the definition of Hamas is fairly loose. It is anyone who the Israelis say it is. The Israel mob are already in the streets of Tel Aviv chanting their support for Bibi.

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jsteele wrote:Hamas has repeatedly accepted U.S. ceasefire and prisoner exchange proposals. This is Netanyahu's way of refusing. He wants war.

Qatar condemned Israel's bombing of Syria, then an hour later Israel bombs Qatar.

https://thepeninsulaqatar.com/article/09/09/2025/qatar-strongly-condemns-israeli-occupations-bombing-of-several-sites-in-syria

This will bring Qatar and Israel closer together. This is just the Israelis agreeing to establish diplomatic and trade relationship with Qatar. The population of Qatar will rise up and overthrow Hamas. Qatar was building nuclear weapons. Qatar is antisemitic. Qatar was falling under Turkey’s influence. High level Hamas and or weapon stockpiles were taken out by Israel. All were hiding in elementary schools, power plants and hospitals. Israel demands more bombs and arms from the US. US Congress demand Trump attack Qatar and thank the Israelis for attacking this rogue country.

Next up Saudi and Turkey!

I wonder what kind of mental illness Zionists suffer from. You want to engage the entire region at war from Turkey to Iran to Tunisia during a time the United States is weary of both war and that region? Lol. Good luck kid.

You should note that historically every Israeli state started to crumble around the eighty year mark due to wars. Netanyahu is repeating history

Please just be careful with the rhetoric. Many American Jews including me, are horrified by what Netanyahu is doing. He is a madman.

Then make it clear you are disassociating yourself from Israel. Show us by your deeds how much you object to those actions. Quit contributing to Israel, its causes, AIPAC, ADL, etc. Let those who support Netanyahu stay and become a pariah state. They can fight Iran and North Korea for the worst.

Look, I am anti_Zionism, but your post here borders on Semitic. American Jews do not have de facto loyalty to Israeli government, and do not de facto do all the things you say they need to stop. Such gross stereotyping. They don't need to prove anything to you.

DP that is a convenient argument. Though the same argument does not seem to work for the Palestinians.

I also don't think American Palestinians need to go around proving they are anti-hamas either. It's not good for Palestinians to be anti-semitic or for Jews to be islamophobes, but you ARE demanding a purity test for American Jews here. That is gross. It is this kind of phrasing and stereotyping that mistakenly in part (or not, in some cases) leads people to believe that the anti_zionist movement is inherently anti-semitic.

Have you not noticed that the left in the US is all about purity tets and eating their own. I wish American Israelis and Palestinians would unite and lead the people in their ancestral homeland to an amicable and workable solution instead of taking sides.

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jsteele wrote:Hamas has repeatedly accepted U.S. ceasefire and prisoner exchange proposals. This is Netanyahu's way of refusing. He wants war.

Jeff, while this may be true, isn’t part of the problem that Hamas leadership and monied members live safely outside Gaza in places like US-friendly (if not allied) states? I don’t co done Israel’s strikes but it doesn’t seem like the Gazan / Palestinian leadership acts in the interests of its people because the leaders don’t live the life of the people.

No that is not a problem. That is an Israeli propaganda talking point.

Anonymous wrote:Reminder: America has a security guarantee towards Qatar which Israel just nullified.

lol that is meaningless. Look at the Egypt–Israel peace treaty. Israel has violated that treaty some many time as to make it worthless. Just wait and see what happens when Israel invades Turkey. The US security guarantees to NATO will just disappear.

jsteele wrote:Hamas has repeatedly accepted U.S. ceasefire and prisoner exchange proposals. This is Netanyahu's way of refusing. He wants war.

Jeff, while this may be true, isn’t part of the problem that Hamas leadership and monied members live safely outside Gaza in places like US-friendly (if not allied) states? I don’t co done Israel’s strikes but it doesn’t seem like the Gazan / Palestinian leadership acts in the interests of its people because the leaders don’t live the life of the people.

Anonymous wrote:Hamas is a designated terrorist organization.

Why are so many of you defending terrorists?

Eh. George Washington and the Continental Army was designated terrorist and rebels because the word terrorist was not used at that time. However, the sentiment of terrorism was there for old George and his army of rebels.
However, Nelson Mandela and the ANC were designated as terrorist. The Black Panthers were designated as terrorists. And, SNCC, Martin Luther King Jr and Malcom X were all designated enemies of the state. I am positive, most of those Palestinians in both Gaza and the West Bank consider the IDF and Netanyahu terrorists. One man's terrorist/enemy of the state is another man's freedom fighter. The name is only relevant through the lens in which you view them.

Reminder: America has a security guarantee towards Qatar which Israel just nullified.

Trump had no idea.

Bibi is in charge and Trump looks like a complete fool.

Anonymous wrote:Amazing that Qatar gifted Trump a $400 million dollar airplane and they still got bombed with his approval. Almost like bribes don’t work on psychopaths.

You're right.

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Anonymous wrote:How many countries has Israel bombed in the past 2 years now? I've lost track

Less than 44 did over his 8 years in office, which is the most any President did since WW2

They also just bombed Tunisia to target a humanitarian flotilla yesterday.

And Israel is using American bombs to target and hit all these Muslim countries.