Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?

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Anonymous wrote:Regardless of when and what details come out I’m confident gun control wouldn’t have stopped it.

If he had not had a gun, he literally could not have shot all of these people.

Liar. Criminals who make their way into Europe kill many innocent people with knives, explosives, and vehicles.

First of all I said "shot," dummy.

Second, from Gemini:

Compiling a precise total comparison number for the last ten years is challenging due to varying definitions of "mass killing" and "mass shooting" across different databases and countries. However, based on the available data, it is overwhelmingly clear that the number of deaths from mass shootings in the U.S. far surpasses the number of deaths from mass killings with knives, explosives, or vehicles in Western Europe over the last decade.

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Anonymous wrote:Regardless of when and what details come out I’m confident gun control wouldn’t have stopped it.

If he had not had a gun, he literally could not have shot all of these people.

Again, wait for the details. When you have them tell me what law would have stopped this horrific tragedy.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are the police unable to identify who the shooter was?

The problem in our individualistic society is that no one is willing to say "That guy is a psycho/pervert/freak and needs to be watched like a hawk." Instead it's "you do you!" Evil walks among us and we can't deny it even if the media doesn't want us to think about it. They want us to think of this like a bad tornado, just something that happens.

There isn’t enough of a mechanism to do something with these people. The people who do these crimes typically are not normal people who recently slipped into problems. Most of them have life long antisocial and troubling behaviors.

Mental hospitals.
And don't say "But Reagan" because he caved to a lobby that started in the 60s with the idiotic "One flew over the cuckoos nest" that fooled people into thinking every free spirit was in danger of forced electroshock therapy to turn them into Don Draper. Why he caved I don't know, it was before my time. But it's been a rotten failure.

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He killed himself with a self-inflicted gunshot, ONLY when the cops showed up with their guns.

If ONLY some trained person had been on site with a weapon to IMMEDIATELY shoot back at him, rather than having to wait for law enforcement.

Real life is not like a movie. Most people are going to hesitate, get nervous, or panic in these situations. That is not a reliable option.

I am confident if I had a gun sitting in church with my child and someone started shooting, I would f*ucking shoot back. My adrenaline is pumping just thinking about it. And I say this as a 40 some year old woman with no disposition to violence. Now ideally, neither of us would have guns, but alas, this is the type of country we choose to live in apparently.

You sound like you need meds.

Nope, just a product of being a minority woman in this country and learned early on to always look over my shoulders and look for threats. I feel consciously more relaxed when I am in East Asia.

But also there is something wrong with you if your adrenaline doesn't start pumping at the thought of someone trying to kill your kids. No mamma bear instincts for you I guess.

Feeling that adrenaline rush doesn't mean you should be armed. Hell, adrenaline can be a problem when you're shooting unless you train yourself to handle it.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter if he is pro or anti-Trump. It doesn't matter what his sexual orientation or identity is. None of that matters.

If he didn't have access to guns, he couldn't have killed to innocent children. He couldn't have shot over a dozen others.

Anyone who does not see this, is complicit.

Mentality deranged people should not have access to guns. The signs were there

No citizen should. Period. People are fine before they have mental breakdowns. Our mental health care sucks. All our health care sucks. Even if it didn't, why should anyone have access to automatic weapons?? It doesn't matter what a person's politics are. I am so sick of this. Those poor children.

And we’re sick of you because you refuse to address the actual issues.

I am addressing the biggest issue of all, the one common thread in every single one of the school shootings that has ever happened: THE GUNS

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Anonymous wrote: I won't "take a breath" and wait. Yes, I blame MAGA. And the NRA. And Republicans. And anyone who every voted for them. You put the gun in a psycopath's hands. If it weren't for you, he would not have had a gun.

Did you watch the video? The entire thing screams leftist propaganda.

What was in the video?

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Anonymous wrote: I won't "take a breath" and wait. Yes, I blame MAGA. And the NRA. And Republicans. And anyone who every voted for them. You put the gun in a psycopath's hands. If it weren't for you, he would not have had a gun.

Did you watch the video? The entire thing screams leftist propaganda.

Do you have a link to the video?

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Anonymous wrote:Why are the police unable to identify who the shooter was?

The problem in our individualistic society is that no one is willing to say "That guy is a psycho/pervert/freak and needs to be watched like a hawk." Instead it's "you do you!" Evil walks among us and we can't deny it even if the media doesn't want us to think about it. They want us to think of this like a bad tornado, just something that happens.

Good point.

Look at all the headlines (Google them) saying “situation” or “occurrence” or “tragedy.”

Just say: murder.

Does anyone doubt this was a murder??

The headlines say "shooting" or "children killed" not situation or occurrence.

“Incident”

https://www.newsweek.com/shooting-minneapolis-annunciation-church-minnesota-2120140

That says "shooting" it's right there in your link. It says "mass shooting incident" a couple times after the headline, but it's firmly identified as a shooting.

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Anonymous wrote: I won't "take a breath" and wait. Yes, I blame MAGA. And the NRA. And Republicans. And anyone who every voted for them. You put the gun in a psycopath's hands. If it weren't for you, he would not have had a gun.

That's not true. We've always had guns. We haven't always had so many mentally ill people. Something is terribly wrong with America. I heard someone on NPR today -- Dr. Offutt -- say we wouldn't have had the shooting at the cdc if RFK JR and Trump hadn't put out so much anti-vaccine fake data. That's absurd. The guy shot at the cdc because he was mentally ill. This is not about politics or fake news or data. We have to find out why we have so many sick alienated people in our society.

Ok, so we have more mentally ill people than ever. Fine. I agree that we absolutely we should address that.

But for a quicker fix, can we also please stop selling everybody guns?

If you don't sell it to the guy, you sell it to his mother and he takes it from her. He still ends up with a gun. No guns for any civilian.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter if he is pro or anti-Trump. It doesn't matter what his sexual orientation or identity is. None of that matters.

If he didn't have access to guns, he couldn't have killed to innocent children. He couldn't have shot over a dozen others.

Anyone who does not see this, is complicit.

Mentality deranged people should not have access to guns. The signs were there

No citizen should. Period. People are fine before they have mental breakdowns. Our mental health care sucks. All our health care sucks. Even if it didn't, why should anyone have access to automatic weapons?? It doesn't matter what a person's politics are. I am so sick of this. Those poor children.

And we’re sick of you because you refuse to address the actual issues.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are the police unable to identify who the shooter was?

The problem in our individualistic society is that no one is willing to say "That guy is a psycho/pervert/freak and needs to be watched like a hawk." Instead it's "you do you!" Evil walks among us and we can't deny it even if the media doesn't want us to think about it. They want us to think of this like a bad tornado, just something that happens.

Good point.

Look at all the headlines (Google them) saying “situation” or “occurrence” or “tragedy.”

Just say: murder.

Does anyone doubt this was a murder??

The headlines say "shooting" or "children killed" not situation or occurrence.

“Incident”

https://www.newsweek.com/shooting-minneapolis-annunciation-church-minnesota-2120140

Anonymous wrote:Regardless of when and what details come out I’m confident gun control wouldn’t have stopped it.

True that criminals don’t obey laws.

Anonymous wrote: I won't "take a breath" and wait. Yes, I blame MAGA. And the NRA. And Republicans. And anyone who every voted for them. You put the gun in a psycopath's hands. If it weren't for you, he would not have had a gun.

Did you watch the video? The entire thing screams leftist propaganda.

Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s, opened fire around 8:30 a.m. Wednesday.

Police are investigating whether a sick 20-minute YouTube video shared on an account hours before the shooting was connected to Westman.