Anonymous
Post 08/22/2025 20:10     Subject: Re:Jon market terrible - anyone’s kids getting a good job

Anonymous wrote:DD’s a history major and has a job, so do all her friends. The only people struggling right now are her premed friends who didn’t make it into med school/other bio majors and cs majors.


What kind of jobs?
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2025 19:37     Subject: Re:Jon market terrible - anyone’s kids getting a good job

Anonymous wrote:My son just started a new job at Palantir. GA Tech 2025 Grad with a degree in CS. Excellent pay and benefits.


Working for Palantir is gross
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2025 19:26     Subject: Re:Jon market terrible - anyone’s kids getting a good job

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Anonymous wrote:DD hustled and got a post-graduation job. It is at a firm where half the posters would be impressed and the other half would say gross. A few years ago I naively was encouraging her to go for a fellowship, like a Fulbright, or honors program in a government agency. She was correct to hustle for the corporate job.

I will note that she works very hard and is grateful for the job. Her role isn’t STEM or finance so she isn’t paid as much as some are noting here. But she enjoys the work and her team and is getting great experience.


How exactly is having a moderately paid job in a company clearly better than spending the same year(s) being a Rhodes, Fulbright or Marshall fellow? I mean, good for her if that is her priority, but I'm not sure it's correct to extrapolate

Yeah I don’t get this one. If you’re in the humanities a Rhodes scholarship is the ticket to a successful career- you’re much more likely to get into a top PhD program or law school. Corporate work is great, but these are once in a lifetime opportunities.


Agree. That PP doesn't seem to actually know what these are.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2025 19:26     Subject: Jon market terrible - anyone’s kids getting a good job

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Anonymous wrote:My ds is looking for a Capitol Hill or government relations job and it’s awful. Most of his friends in his major are still looking, and these are very qualified kids who have had internships. My DS has had four great internships including two on the Hill. It’s really upsetting to see what he’s going through. Every job he interviews at say he’s one of over 1000 applicants.


This option is not available for everyone this year. Your child needs to move on to option B.


well he's still holding out for something, but yes he will look at law school or grad school if he can't find something. Hoping for an opportunity in the Hill office he interned and also has a lead on another role but it would be newly created and the boss is "fighting with HR" to get it open, so here we sit.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2025 19:17     Subject: Jon market terrible - anyone’s kids getting a good job

My 2024 grad got a job b4- accounting, interned summer of 2023 and got return offer. This summer the firm was much more selective with return offers. my 2026 grad just received a return offer from his summer internship, engineering major. Tell your college students to take the fall career fairs seriously! Both of my kids and most of their friends got their internships at college career fairs. The internship is the key to job offers.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2025 19:10     Subject: Jon market terrible - anyone’s kids getting a good job

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My ds is looking for a Capitol Hill or government relations job and it’s awful. Most of his friends in his major are still looking, and these are very qualified kids who have had internships. My DS has had four great internships including two on the Hill. It’s really upsetting to see what he’s going through. Every job he interviews at say he’s one of over 1000 applicants.


This option is not available for everyone this year. Your child needs to move on to option B.

You need to get it while young. It’s really hard to lean into politics if you don’t start at the beginning.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2025 19:07     Subject: Jon market terrible - anyone’s kids getting a good job

Anonymous wrote:My ds is looking for a Capitol Hill or government relations job and it’s awful. Most of his friends in his major are still looking, and these are very qualified kids who have had internships. My DS has had four great internships including two on the Hill. It’s really upsetting to see what he’s going through. Every job he interviews at say he’s one of over 1000 applicants.


This option is not available for everyone this year. Your child needs to move on to option B.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2025 18:57     Subject: Re:Jon market terrible - anyone’s kids getting a good job

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DD hustled and got a post-graduation job. It is at a firm where half the posters would be impressed and the other half would say gross. A few years ago I naively was encouraging her to go for a fellowship, like a Fulbright, or honors program in a government agency. She was correct to hustle for the corporate job.

I will note that she works very hard and is grateful for the job. Her role isn’t STEM or finance so she isn’t paid as much as some are noting here. But she enjoys the work and her team and is getting great experience.


How exactly is having a moderately paid job in a company clearly better than spending the same year(s) being a Rhodes, Fulbright or Marshall fellow? I mean, good for her if that is her priority, but I'm not sure it's correct to extrapolate

Yeah I don’t get this one. If you’re in the humanities a Rhodes scholarship is the ticket to a successful career- you’re much more likely to get into a top PhD program or law school. Corporate work is great, but these are once in a lifetime opportunities.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2025 18:51     Subject: Jon market terrible - anyone’s kids getting a good job

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Anonymous wrote:We’re a normal family with normal kids that go to normal schools. It’s a tough market and many people are struggling to find a job. DS is an engineering major and is still looking for a position after to applying to 100+ places. Carnegie Mellon CS grads aren’t an honest reflection of the economy.


Indeed, I’m the PP with the kid working at Whole Foods. My kid went to a good school, but not an amazing school and did internships but not at the kind of places where you really need to know someone important. That said, my kid also has a really great attitude about the whole situation because most of their friends are in the same boat. They’re all working in jobs that get their bills paid while they look for the jobs they want, and they’re not just sitting around waiting for life to hand them something.


Holy cow. What college did your kid go to? This is why I'm always confused as to why non-1% families (or families that don't have a lot of generational wealth or a trust fund set up for their kids) let their children burn $200k on an English degree from Vassar (to take an example from my next door neighbor). Like seriously, what is even going through your head? Your kid would've been WAY better off doing engineering at VA Tech.

Also, major YIKES at the fact that most of your kid's college friends are just "working in jobs that get their bills paid while they look for the jobs they want, and they’re not just sitting around waiting for life to hand them something" -- is this what really happens when you major in the humanities at a SLAC? Ridiculous. At least if your kid was an English major at a school like Stanford, they'd be able to leverage that into a consulting gig at BCG or whatnot.

English at Vassar to engineering at VT is a ridiculous jump. They probably would end up doing English at VT and have similar if not worse outcomes.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2025 18:37     Subject: Re:Jon market terrible - anyone’s kids getting a good job

Anonymous wrote:DD hustled and got a post-graduation job. It is at a firm where half the posters would be impressed and the other half would say gross. A few years ago I naively was encouraging her to go for a fellowship, like a Fulbright, or honors program in a government agency. She was correct to hustle for the corporate job.

I will note that she works very hard and is grateful for the job. Her role isn’t STEM or finance so she isn’t paid as much as some are noting here. But she enjoys the work and her team and is getting great experience.


How exactly is having a moderately paid job in a company clearly better than spending the same year(s) being a Rhodes, Fulbright or Marshall fellow? I mean, good for her if that is her priority, but I'm not sure it's correct to extrapolate
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2025 18:31     Subject: Re:Jon market terrible - anyone’s kids getting a good job

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Anonymous wrote:Math major from Williams. DS is making 110K in his first job out. Considering applying already, because he thinks he's underpaid. Everyone he knows has a job or is in grad school.


I don’t know anyone who doesn’t have a job from a top tier school.


Came here to say this! It is not hard from a top school


This is major dependent. I'm inclined to believe this is true for graduating males with a quant degree from a top 20 school. Or SWE.

My son and his friends attend: Brown, Chicago, Yale and Vanderbilt. The only one with a job lined up is the one with a math major. The other three humanities majors -- all of whom WILL eventually go to grad school in 2-3 years -- are very much struggling to even get internships.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2025 18:18     Subject: Re:Jon market terrible - anyone’s kids getting a good job

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Anonymous wrote:My son just started a new job at Palantir. GA Tech 2025 Grad with a degree in CS. Excellent pay and benefits.


Gross.

DP but really? Are you jealous or simply a disgusting person? People on DCUM are even more toxic than I realized. Someone shares good news about their kid’s hard work paying off, and your reaction is “gross”? That says more about you than about them.


Jealous? No. I would be embarrassed if my boys took a job there and wouldn’t broadcast it. You know what’s more toxic than my post: Palantir. Big balls. Tech bros with God complexes. Spying on Americans. Corruption.

You’re disgusting just as i suspected. Such a scum bag.


In the scope of things, I’m not, no matter what you say. If she can’t take the heat that her DS is helping to unleash a genie in a bottle against the American public by a power-hungry billionaire, then she needs to get out of the kitchen. I’m saying what a lot of her friends are thinking.

You need to keep that BS to yourself cuz you’re wrong.


Your angry response says I’m not.

I’m not angry, just pointing out your BS and you’re a disgusting person.


I’m less disgusting than anyone who works here 😘:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/30/technology/trump-palantir-data-americans.html

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/30/peter-thiel-palantir-threat-to-americans

You’re a mental case.


LOL. I’m the opposite of a mental case because I don’t want my government to track me. I lived in China as an expat. You might be more worried. I’m sure you’ll want the last word here, so you can have it. 😘
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2025 18:15     Subject: Re:Jon market terrible - anyone’s kids getting a good job

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Anonymous wrote:My son just started a new job at Palantir. GA Tech 2025 Grad with a degree in CS. Excellent pay and benefits.


Gross.

DP but really? Are you jealous or simply a disgusting person? People on DCUM are even more toxic than I realized. Someone shares good news about their kid’s hard work paying off, and your reaction is “gross”? That says more about you than about them.


Jealous? No. I would be embarrassed if my boys took a job there and wouldn’t broadcast it. You know what’s more toxic than my post: Palantir. Big balls. Tech bros with God complexes. Spying on Americans. Corruption.

You’re disgusting just as i suspected. Such a scum bag.


In the scope of things, I’m not, no matter what you say. If she can’t take the heat that her DS is helping to unleash a genie in a bottle against the American public by a power-hungry billionaire, then she needs to get out of the kitchen. I’m saying what a lot of her friends are thinking.

You need to keep that BS to yourself cuz you’re wrong.


Your angry response says I’m not.

I’m not angry, just pointing out your BS and you’re a disgusting person.


I’m less disgusting than anyone who works here 😘:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/30/technology/trump-palantir-data-americans.html

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/30/peter-thiel-palantir-threat-to-americans

You’re a mental case.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2025 18:13     Subject: Re:Jon market terrible - anyone’s kids getting a good job

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Anonymous wrote:My son just started a new job at Palantir. GA Tech 2025 Grad with a degree in CS. Excellent pay and benefits.


Gross.

DP but really? Are you jealous or simply a disgusting person? People on DCUM are even more toxic than I realized. Someone shares good news about their kid’s hard work paying off, and your reaction is “gross”? That says more about you than about them.


Jealous? No. I would be embarrassed if my boys took a job there and wouldn’t broadcast it. You know what’s more toxic than my post: Palantir. Big balls. Tech bros with God complexes. Spying on Americans. Corruption.

You’re disgusting just as i suspected. Such a scum bag.


In the scope of things, I’m not, no matter what you say. If she can’t take the heat that her DS is helping to unleash a genie in a bottle against the American public by a power-hungry billionaire, then she needs to get out of the kitchen. I’m saying what a lot of her friends are thinking.

You need to keep that BS to yourself cuz you’re wrong.


Your angry response says I’m not.

I’m not angry, just pointing out your BS and you’re a disgusting person.


I’m less disgusting than anyone who works here 😘:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/30/technology/trump-palantir-data-americans.html

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/30/peter-thiel-palantir-threat-to-americans
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2025 17:54     Subject: Jon market terrible - anyone’s kids getting a good job

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We’re a normal family with normal kids that go to normal schools. It’s a tough market and many people are struggling to find a job. DS is an engineering major and is still looking for a position after to applying to 100+ places. Carnegie Mellon CS grads aren’t an honest reflection of the economy.


Indeed, I’m the PP with the kid working at Whole Foods. My kid went to a good school, but not an amazing school and did internships but not at the kind of places where you really need to know someone important. That said, my kid also has a really great attitude about the whole situation because most of their friends are in the same boat. They’re all working in jobs that get their bills paid while they look for the jobs they want, and they’re not just sitting around waiting for life to hand them something.


Holy cow. What college did your kid go to? This is why I'm always confused as to why non-1% families (or families that don't have a lot of generational wealth or a trust fund set up for their kids) let their children burn $200k on an English degree from Vassar (to take an example from my next door neighbor). Like seriously, what is even going through your head? Your kid would've been WAY better off doing engineering at VA Tech.

Also, major YIKES at the fact that most of your kid's college friends are just "working in jobs that get their bills paid while they look for the jobs they want, and they’re not just sitting around waiting for life to hand them something" -- is this what really happens when you major in the humanities at a SLAC? Ridiculous. At least if your kid was an English major at a school like Stanford, they'd be able to leverage that into a consulting gig at BCG or whatnot.