Anonymous wrote:Up until Covid when TW became more wide-spread, people with minor colds, coughs or flu symptoms came in to work. Even feds.

It was that way for decades. People just didn't take off work for minor illnesses.

Just because we’ve always done it one way doesn’t mean that it’s the right way.

Some of you don't work with or are not themselves lawyers and it shows.

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Anonymous wrote:Crabs in a bucket

Is that what you tell yourself whenever you infect half of your coworkers?

Dp. I have sympathy for my coworkers and realize people have competing risks that are specific to individuals.

You are proving the crabs in a bucket point, though.

I have manners and am educated enough to know about infectious diseases and how not to spread them. I dont have the main character syndrome and don't think I'm the only person that matters in the whole universe. More than you can say, though.

DP. People may not have it as easy as you. For many, staying home means they don’t get paid.

Having manners also means recognizing that others may not be as privileged.

We are talking about the feds here. Keep up, please. They most certainly have leave they can take.

have you been completely unaware of the situation for federal employees over the past 6 months? I mean, good for you for being in an agency without RIFS or threats of politically-motivated illegal firings, but that is not the case for many, many others. Your situation is not universal for all feds. Yes, taking leave for some of us puts a target on our backs.

Up until Covid when TW became more wide-spread, people with minor colds, coughs or flu symptoms came in to work. Even feds.

It was that way for decades. People just didn't take off work for minor illnesses.

Anonymous wrote:In the private sector, you've always just come into the office. We don't have "sick leave," just PTO.

Also not true. I have sick leave and PTO.

In the private sector, you've always just come into the office. We don't have "sick leave," just PTO.

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Anonymous wrote:Crabs in a bucket

Is that what you tell yourself whenever you infect half of your coworkers?

Dp. I have sympathy for my coworkers and realize people have competing risks that are specific to individuals.

You are proving the crabs in a bucket point, though.

I have manners and am educated enough to know about infectious diseases and how not to spread them. I dont have the main character syndrome and don't think I'm the only person that matters in the whole universe. More than you can say, though.

DP. People may not have it as easy as you. For many, staying home means they don’t get paid.

Having manners also means recognizing that others may not be as privileged.

We are talking about the feds here. Keep up, please. They most certainly have leave they can take.

Put on your big girl pants and try to be an adult. Life is hard. Deal with it.

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Anonymous wrote:Crabs in a bucket

Is that what you tell yourself whenever you infect half of your coworkers?

Dp. I have sympathy for my coworkers and realize people have competing risks that are specific to individuals.

You are proving the crabs in a bucket point, though.

I have manners and am educated enough to know about infectious diseases and how not to spread them. I dont have the main character syndrome and don't think I'm the only person that matters in the whole universe. More than you can say, though.

DP. People may not have it as easy as you. For many, staying home means they don’t get paid.

Having manners also means recognizing that others may not be as privileged.

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Anonymous wrote:Crabs in a bucket

Is that what you tell yourself whenever you infect half of your coworkers?

Dp. I have sympathy for my coworkers and realize people have competing risks that are specific to individuals.

You are proving the crabs in a bucket point, though.

I have manners and am educated enough to know about infectious diseases and how not to spread them. I dont have the main character syndrome and don't think I'm the only person that matters in the whole universe. More than you can say, though.

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Anonymous wrote:Crabs in a bucket

Is that what you tell yourself whenever you infect half of your coworkers?

Dp. I have sympathy for my coworkers and realize people have competing risks that are specific to individuals.

You are proving the crabs in a bucket point, though.

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Is that what you tell yourself whenever you infect half of your coworkers?

Crabs in a bucket

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Anonymous wrote:I get 3 weeks of PTO, so I'm absolutely going into the office.

if you are sick you need to take time off your manager could be notified and you written up as a health risk

DP. Lol my manager doesn’t care if I’m a health risk, just that the job gets done. Fed.

YOU should care if you spread your illness to other people. But you'd not have to be a petulant child first. You realize that those that you are infecting are your coworkers who are in the same boat as you, right? Not Trump.

Yeah well I like having a job, Nancy.

So does everyone else, Karen.

Which is why everyone is coming in sick.

No, not everyone. And even if that were true, it makes zero sense.

In an environment where OPM is trying to fire us all, it makes perfect sense to come in sick. I understand that agencies may differ in their feelings of oversight and job security.

Again, you’re a petulant child. Grow up.

Yes, making sure I feed my family is being a petulant child. Not everyone has your financial security.

This is really crabs in a bucket, though.

You have sick leave. OPM didn't take that away from you. No one is going to fire you if you use it. If they do, you were going to get fired anyway, and no amount of coming in sick and spreading it to everyone else was going to save your job.

What agency and office are you?

NHTSA and have been able to take leave whenever I want.

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Anonymous wrote:I get 3 weeks of PTO, so I'm absolutely going into the office.

if you are sick you need to take time off your manager could be notified and you written up as a health risk

DP. Lol my manager doesn’t care if I’m a health risk, just that the job gets done. Fed.

YOU should care if you spread your illness to other people. But you'd not have to be a petulant child first. You realize that those that you are infecting are your coworkers who are in the same boat as you, right? Not Trump.

Yeah well I like having a job, Nancy.

So does everyone else, Karen.

Which is why everyone is coming in sick.

No, not everyone. And even if that were true, it makes zero sense.

In an environment where OPM is trying to fire us all, it makes perfect sense to come in sick. I understand that agencies may differ in their feelings of oversight and job security.

Again, you’re a petulant child. Grow up.

Yes, making sure I feed my family is being a petulant child. Not everyone has your financial security.

This is really crabs in a bucket, though.

You have sick leave. OPM didn't take that away from you. No one is going to fire you if you use it. If they do, you were going to get fired anyway, and no amount of coming in sick and spreading it to everyone else was going to save your job.

Sure thing! Treatment of people is definitely following predictable patterns, laws, and norms!

You're proving my point. Going in to prove what a good worker bee you are is pretty much pointless since they aren't following any kind of logic of who actually gets fired.

Ok! Good luck!