Anonymous wrote:Who drives from vegas to nyc? Only a nutjob

Many people take road trips. He would not be able to take that on the plane

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Anonymous wrote:TBI + access to an AR-15 = this. Nobody should be allowed access to these types of firearms.

M4 assault rifle being reported

He strutted confidently down the street with the gun in full view. And people just acted like there was nothing to see there. What’s wrong with New Yorkers?

Culture not just in NYC is to: mind your own business. Maybe that should change, just maybe.

I would have thought it was a costume. It was not too far off from the theater district.

The actual assault style long rifle? Maybe if one didn't know what a rifle looked like??

Pray tell, what is an “assault style” rifle? A rifle is a rifle. What makes one “assault style?” Be specific.

An assault rifle or assault style rifle or whatever - a rifle, any rifle, period - is only good for slaughtering mass numbers of people as quickly as possible, with a hail of indiscriminate bullets. They don’t even need to be aimed carefully because they can put out up to 900 bullets per minute. In the 3-5 minutes duration of the average mass shooting, that means possibly 2,700-4,500 bullets could be fired.


They are killing machines. Only the police should have them.

So what mass numbers of people are the police supposed to be killing as quickly and indiscriminately as possible? Is this what police are supposed to be doing? Killing indiscriminately?


I seriously don’t understand maga “logic” like this. Then again I’m generally anti-police as it is. Can you explain why police would be expected to kill mass number of people?

Yet by voting and being an American, each person is voting to increase the building of rifles that should NOT be anywhere to use in the great US of A. It is not just tankers defense if building wake the F up America

Anonymous wrote:The killer was 27 years old and had played youth football at least through high school. Not sure whether he played beyond that. He has experienced significant mental health issues since at least 2022. He claimed he had CTE, which cannot be definitively diagnosed in a living person. He was angry because he believes the NFL downplays the risks of CTE in the name of profits. He went to NFL headquarters to commit high profile murders, seeking attention. He took the wrong elevator, couldn’t reach the right floor(s), and ended up shooting 5 people who had no connection to the NFL except being in the same building as NFL HQ. Four of those people are dead. He then took his own life. He had a note asking that his brain be studied (because he believed he had CTE).

If it turns out that he was just an ordinary mentally ill guy who didn’t have CTE, then he will have accomplished nothing except shooting 5 random people, killing 4, traumatizing numerous others, and committing suicide. His actions will have no meaningful impact on the discussion of CTE or related NFL policies. He will be dismissed as just another nut with a gun.

This is a terrible tragedy regardless of whether he actually had CTE, but my God, if he didn’t even have it…

No one should have been killed over this!
But CTE and NFL should be discussed. It is important. Some parents will not let their young kids play the sport of American football for this reason. It should be outlawed. but what will those athletes plus personnel in the sports world ever do if not football?

There is some misinformation in this thread.

1. he was NOT "strolling down the street" with a gun. He parked his BMW right outside the building and crossed the PLAZA into the building. In the picture of him you'll see there are no people near him. The Plaza is slightly elevated and the way it is constructed, people walking down Park Avenue at roughly a 90 degree angle about 2 feet lower than Plaza level were unlikely to notice. https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/28/us/video/park-avenue-new-york-city-shooting-mccabe-digvid (I tried to embed a photo but it didn't work.) The way the bank juts out cuts off the view from most of Park Avenue. (There's a bank at plaza level marked by the red signs in the video.It blocks the view of the plaza from people on Park Ave walking south.)

2. CNN reported that the gunman was "possibly white" because that it what THE POLICE'S initial report said. They also said he was "possibly Middle Eastern." (That's why a guy outside wearing a shirt with a pro Palestinian message found himself body slammed by several police officers onto the pavement.) CNN only mimicked what the police said.

3. The cop who died was off duty filling a paid detail. He WAS security. Poor guy worked in the Bronx; this gig must have seemed like easy money to him. THe gunman killed him and shot another guard. No word yet as to whether the guard was killed. He probably was.

4. I have no idea what the law re carrying an assault weapon in NYC is, but be aware that NYC has MUCH tougher gun laws than NY State does, so the statute quoted in this thread is irrelevant. Unfortunately, this Supreme Court held 6 to 3 that our gun law was unconstitutional and it was watered down. It is still tougher than the rest of the state.

5. In NYC, the gunman could NOT have obtained a gun permit. Blame Nevada, not NY, for the fact that a person with a history of mental health issues had no trouble getting a concealed carry permit. It's not relevant anyway since the gun wasn't concealed. It is EXTREMELY unlikely the gun was purchased in NYC.

Anonymous wrote:People are more outraged about this than school shootings.

In fairness school is out so it’s a lot harder for the school shooters. Don’t worry- there will be more in the fall. We have failed as a society.

Who drives from vegas to nyc? Only a nutjob

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Anonymous wrote:The killer from Las Vegas had NFL aspirations.

Did he play in college but not get recruited?

I haven’t seen anything yet about college, or how he afforded that black BMW.

Why does it matter how he afforded the car? You can have/afford a bmw and not play in the NFL

Check your comprehension.
Question is: was he employed, or not?

It said he drove from NV to NY but didn't say in what kind of a car. or did it? He could have "borrowed" the car when he got to NY?

The car was registered in his name.

Ok so he had a BMW, many do. Why why kill others?

People who own BMWs in the US are usually self centered jerks.

What's the difference between a porcupine and a BMW?
On a porcupine, the pricks are on the outside.

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Anonymous wrote:TBI + access to an AR-15 = this. Nobody should be allowed access to these types of firearms.

M4 assault rifle being reported

He strutted confidently down the street with the gun in full view. And people just acted like there was nothing to see there. What’s wrong with New Yorkers?

New York has no law restricting the open carrying of long guns in public.

https://giffords.org/lawcenter/state-laws/open-carry-in-new-york/

You can’t carry a long gun and ammunition (even if the gun is unloaded), but you can carry a long gun openly.

Oh boy that law sure did stop him didn’t it.

Yeah, laws don’t prevent murders, but a pp asked what’s wrong with New Yorkers that this guy could just walk around carrying a long gun that wasn’t concealed at all.

What would YOU do? Confront him?

Have you ever been in such a situation?

I was in Harris Teeter a couple of weeks ago. A young man wearing a handgun came in and was using the atm or something. No uniform or anything. Checkout clerk and I exchanged looks, but there was nothing really to DO. Open carry is legal, and people who would do that are very likely looking for a confrontation. Deciding you’re not going to engage a potentially mentally unstable, armed person is a normal act of self-preservation.

Which jurisdiction? Open carry is lawful in VA. Not in MD or DC.

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Anonymous wrote:The killer from Las Vegas had NFL aspirations.

Did he play in college but not get recruited?

I haven’t seen anything yet about college, or how he afforded that black BMW.

Why does it matter how he afforded the car? You can have/afford a bmw and not play in the NFL

Check your comprehension.
Question is: was he employed, or not?

It said he drove from NV to NY but didn't say in what kind of a car. or did it? He could have "borrowed" the car when he got to NY?

The car was registered in his name.

Ok so he had a BMW, many do. Why why kill others?

Because he is a coward and wanted attention. Killing just himself would not have gotten the attention he sought.
He’s a worthless human being and it benefits society for him to be gone. It’s just tragic that he took innocent souls with him. May he rot in hell.

Luigi Mangione is a murderer who shot a father in the back. But you worship him like a hero.

DP

That was a TOTALLY different scenario. Luigi is a folk hero because he killed a CEO of a company that has probably murdered thousands of people by denying them the care they were paying insurance premiums for.

This guy was just a low talent football jock with brain damage and a gun.


They are not the same.

Anonymous wrote:These prescribed drugs have serious warnings of potential violent behavior. His psychiatrist should be interviewed by the FBI.

Maybe AR-15s shouldn't be available to the general public.

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Anonymous wrote:He came from Nevada and targeted a Blackstone executive? Sounds like another Luigi type.

Blackstone owns whole neighborhoods in the southwest

My bad. Just saw he had grievances with the NFL.

Yea, apparently got into wrong elevator, meant to go up to NFL office but went to another floor

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Anonymous wrote:The killer from Las Vegas had NFL aspirations.

Did he play in college but not get recruited?

I haven’t seen anything yet about college, or how he afforded that black BMW.

Why does it matter how he afforded the car? You can have/afford a bmw and not play in the NFL

Check your comprehension.
Question is: was he employed, or not?

It said he drove from NV to NY but didn't say in what kind of a car. or did it? He could have "borrowed" the car when he got to NY?

The car was registered in his name.

Ok so he had a BMW, many do. Why why kill others?

People who own BMWs in the US are usually self centered jerks.

Have met them. Even the ones who get a bmw SUV after becoming a parent. Ick.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't keep up with all of the random acts of violence =(

How can we live like this America!?

We are

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Anonymous wrote:The killer from Las Vegas had NFL aspirations.

Did he play in college but not get recruited?

I haven’t seen anything yet about college, or how he afforded that black BMW.

Why does it matter how he afforded the car? You can have/afford a bmw and not play in the NFL

Check your comprehension.
Question is: was he employed, or not?

It said he drove from NV to NY but didn't say in what kind of a car. or did it? He could have "borrowed" the car when he got to NY?

The car was registered in his name.

Ok so he had a BMW, many do. Why why kill others?

Because he is a coward and wanted attention. Killing just himself would not have gotten the attention he sought.
He’s a worthless human being and it benefits society for him to be gone. It’s just tragic that he took innocent souls with him. May he rot in hell.

Luigi Mangione is a murderer who shot a father in the back. But you worship him like a hero.

PP here.
I don’t. I think he should rot in hell as well. But I do acknowledge that many here have given him hero status. And it’s sickening.

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Anonymous wrote:The killer from Las Vegas had NFL aspirations.

Did he play in college but not get recruited?

I haven’t seen anything yet about college, or how he afforded that black BMW.

Why does it matter how he afforded the car? You can have/afford a bmw and not play in the NFL

Check your comprehension.
Question is: was he employed, or not?

It said he drove from NV to NY but didn't say in what kind of a car. or did it? He could have "borrowed" the car when he got to NY?

The car was registered in his name.

Ok so he had a BMW, many do. Why why kill others?

Because he is a coward and wanted attention. Killing just himself would not have gotten the attention he sought.
He’s a worthless human being and it benefits society for him to be gone. It’s just tragic that he took innocent souls with him. May he rot in hell.

Luigi Mangione is a murderer who shot a father in the back. But you worship him like a hero.

PP here.
I don’t. I think he should rot in hell as well. But I do acknowledge that many here have given him hero status. And it’s sickening.