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Anonymous wrote:The perpetual victimhood of Israel, when they are statistically and literally the aggressor, is completely transparent. We won’t be silenced by your shrieks of antisemitism whenever you’re called out for ethnic cleansing and perpetuating a genocide. Jewish feelings do not trump Palestinian lives.

What you mean is that statistically and literally Israel has been the constant target of Palestinian violence since 1948. That Israel has always prevailed against those who attack them doesn't change the fact that they are the victims of terrorism, not the perpetrators.

"Aggressor" has a dictionary meaning. Twisting it to try to label Israel, the only victim of regional terror, with a pejorative when they defend themselves is both laughable and immoral. Feelings have nothing to do with it. That Palestinian attempts at genocide fail doesn't excuse them, and doesn't insulate the perpetrators from retaliation.

If you want to express support for Palestinian lives, you'd do better to suggest an end to Palestinian terrorism, without which there would be no need for retaliation or for self-defense. Look at Jordan and Egypt, which gave up their aggression against Israel after their defeats following ill-considered military adventurism and which have enjoyed peace as a result.

That’s funny, I read an article today about Israeli settlers diverting the water source for fourteen Palestinian communities to create a recreational spring for themselves, vandalizing and destroying infrastructure to do so. They also murdered several people in the last few weeks alone (including an American citizen), burned down their homes, and have been allowed to do so by the Israeli government. This is in addition to the deliberate starvation of the people in Gaza and the continued murder and maim by Israeli bombs and guns. Tell me again how you’re the victim of violent attacks and not the perpetrators.

Anonymous wrote:It’s incredibly upsetting to hear the reports on the bbc radio. I have to turn it off, I feel so helpless. What can we do??

Anonymous wrote:Zionism = Terrorism.

Anonymous wrote:Zionism = Terrorism.

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Anonymous wrote:The perpetual victimhood of Israel, when they are statistically and literally the aggressor, is completely transparent. We won’t be silenced by your shrieks of antisemitism whenever you’re called out for ethnic cleansing and perpetuating a genocide. Jewish feelings do not trump Palestinian lives.

What you mean is that statistically and literally Israel has been the constant target of Palestinian violence since 1948. That Israel has always prevailed against those who attack them doesn't change the fact that they are the victims of terrorism, not the perpetrators.

"Aggressor" has a dictionary meaning. Twisting it to try to label Israel, the only victim of regional terror, with a pejorative when they defend themselves is both laughable and immoral. Feelings have nothing to do with it. That Palestinian attempts at genocide fail doesn't excuse them, and doesn't insulate the perpetrators from retaliation.

If you want to express support for Palestinian lives, you'd do better to suggest an end to Palestinian terrorism, without which there would be no need for retaliation or for self-defense. Look at Jordan and Egypt, which gave up their aggression against Israel after their defeats following ill-considered military adventurism and which have enjoyed peace as a result.

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Anonymous wrote:Np.

I am done with Israel and its supporters. ‘Never again’ for me means I will never vote for or support a politician who supports Israel. And I was a moderate before.

To the Jewish people of the US, many of whom I have considered friends - if you supported Israel and made excuses through this, I’m sorry but I’ll never look at you the same again, ever. I will never ever support another Israeli cause. You had a unique chance to change this, to call on your synagogues to challenge Israel’s policies, to call on them to call out AIPAC’s perverse involvement in US elections, to call out US funding of this slaughter, to call out the travesty of college students being attacked and doxed by thugs like Bill Ackman for protesting this tragedy, and to call out all the phony claims of anti semitism for people expressing sympathy for the Palestinian cause.

To those who did, thank you from the bottom of my heart. I know there are kind, decent people everywhere.

This sums up what I feel about anyone who supports the Palestinians. They support terrorism to make political change in the world. They support sacrificing Palestinian civilians for the sake of statehood, not because it's right but because they just don't want Jews to win. I will never forgive you.

DP

Good luck making the numbers work out. Maybe 20 million Jews, maybe 125 million evangelicals / fugazi Christians, and maybe 50 million other assorted racists in the U.S. … against 7.95 billion people.

8 billion people have no interest in wiping Israel from the face of the Earth. A limited number of Islamist fanatics hew to that ambition, but their numbers are being reduced daily.

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Anonymous wrote:Wars end when the losing side surrenders. End of story. If the Palestinians prefer fighting to the death than surrendering then so be it. They're getting their wish.

Interesting. Would you say the same about the siege of Leningrad, where up to one million people died of hunger?

The war in Gaza would end today if Hamas surrendered and agreed to live in peace with Israel.

How exactly might one live in peace with a neighbor who asserts their right to attack you (for any reason or none at all) as part of their “preemptive self-defense” doctrine, but denies you the same right?

We all know the various governing bodies of the Palestinians have been attacking Israel and stating out loud they want Israel destroyed for as long as Israel has existed. Again, if they agreed to live in peace with Israel, the conflict would be over. That's their choice.

Israel's version of "living in peace" is "you let me do what I want to you and with what's yours. If you disagree, you're a terrorist and I'll do it anyway."

This is Zionist logic, in the most concise nutshell imaginable.

This should be stickied at the top of every page of every thread related to this conflict. It precisely sets the backdrop for EVERY SINGLE EVENT in the region for the past 100+ years.

When you're as confused as you are, it's pointless to note that you're just wrong on the facts, wrong on the history, and hopelessly immoral in your support for terrorism.

Anonymous wrote:How can Americans look at these photos and not be utterly outraged?????

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Anonymous wrote:The perpetual victimhood of Israel, when they are statistically and literally the aggressor, is completely transparent. We won’t be silenced by your shrieks of antisemitism whenever you’re called out for ethnic cleansing and perpetuating a genocide. Jewish feelings do not trump Palestinian lives.

What you mean is that statistically and literally Israel has been the constant target of Palestinian violence since 1948. That Israel has always prevailed against those who attack them doesn't change the fact that they are the victims of terrorism, not the perpetrators.

"Aggressor" has a dictionary meaning. Twisting it to try to label Israel, the only victim of regional terror, with a pejorative when they defend themselves is both laughable and immoral. Feelings have nothing to do with it. That Palestinian attempts at genocide fail doesn't excuse them, and doesn't insulate the perpetrators from retaliation.

If you want to express support for Palestinian lives, you'd do better to suggest an end to Palestinian terrorism, without which there would be no need for retaliation or for self-defense. Look at Jordan and Egypt, which gave up their aggression against Israel after their defeats following ill-considered military adventurism and which have enjoyed peace as a result.

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Anonymous wrote:Wars end when the losing side surrenders. End of story. If the Palestinians prefer fighting to the death than surrendering then so be it. They're getting their wish.

Interesting. Would you say the same about the siege of Leningrad, where up to one million people died of hunger?

The war in Gaza would end today if Hamas surrendered and agreed to live in peace with Israel.

How exactly might one live in peace with a neighbor who asserts their right to attack you (for any reason or none at all) as part of their “preemptive self-defense” doctrine, but denies you the same right?

We all know the various governing bodies of the Palestinians have been attacking Israel and stating out loud they want Israel destroyed for as long as Israel has existed. Again, if they agreed to live in peace with Israel, the conflict would be over. That's their choice.

Israel's version of "living in peace" is "you let me do what I want to you and with what's yours. If you disagree, you're a terrorist and I'll do it anyway."

This is Zionist logic, in the most concise nutshell imaginable.

This should be stickied at the top of every page of every thread related to this conflict. It precisely sets the backdrop for EVERY SINGLE EVENT in the region for the past 100+ years.

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Anonymous wrote:Wars end when the losing side surrenders. End of story. If the Palestinians prefer fighting to the death than surrendering then so be it. They're getting their wish.

Interesting. Would you say the same about the siege of Leningrad, where up to one million people died of hunger?

The war in Gaza would end today if Hamas surrendered and agreed to live in peace with Israel.

How exactly might one live in peace with a neighbor who asserts their right to attack you (for any reason or none at all) as part of their “preemptive self-defense” doctrine, but denies you the same right?

We all know the various governing bodies of the Palestinians have been attacking Israel and stating out loud they want Israel destroyed for as long as Israel has existed. Again, if they agreed to live in peace with Israel, the conflict would be over. That's their choice.

Israel's version of "living in peace" is "you let me do what I want to you and with what's yours. If you disagree, you're a terrorist and I'll do it anyway."

Anonymous wrote:It’s incredibly upsetting to hear the reports on the bbc radio. I have to turn it off, I feel so helpless. What can we do??

Anonymous wrote:The perpetual victimhood of Israel, when they are statistically and literally the aggressor, is completely transparent. We won’t be silenced by your shrieks of antisemitism whenever you’re called out for ethnic cleansing and perpetuating a genocide. Jewish feelings do not trump Palestinian lives.