Anonymous wrote:WTF is wrong with people? You give the money and leave it alone. SS sounds like it's enough for them. They can also receive Meals on Wheels deliveries.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My concern would be that no matter how the 20k is paid, this is only the beginning of huge expenses coming your IL’s way.
Do they have any assets to sell like an extra car? Anything that would bring in some liquid?
This is a wake up call, OP - I really think they need to sell current home and downsize immediately- they can’t sustain their current lifestyle.
I think I’d list their house AS-IS and sell through a We Buy Any House type service. Get some cash and go from there.
Where in the world do people think they can live cheaper than in a paid off house?
my parents are In their 80s, never made more than $45-50k per year combined don't have a pension and managed to save. Because they worked side jobs for extra and lived well below their means. They planned for supporting themselves in retirement and did a good jobAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most older people live on SS. There were pensions back in the day in some industries but not all. 401ks didn't really show up until the 80s or so.
This. This forum is so detached from reality I even have to be away from here for a few days. Most Americans who are retired today or who will retire soon will have SS as their primary income retirement.
So many of us have so much money we forget that a lot of Americans are in dead end jobs with low pay. Even some jobs who are not dead ends pay very low wages.
Many of us have benefited from very high paying jobs just because we have a college degree.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They won't be able to manage going forward. There will be other repairs, other things, other issues. They do not have enough money to live on.
Sell their house.
You can use the money to have them move in with you or buy a new place that affords everyone's privacy if your house isn't accommodating for that - and if it's not, go the new house route.
No, you aren't going to bill them. That makes little sense, and their house doesn't have enough equity to continue this sort of transaction going forward because there will be more issues.
If they are employable, they can get part time jobs. Other than that, no, you have to cover this bill and make arrangements for the future. Sorry, OP. It is what it is.
+1
Agree with this. You may have to buy a new house in a cheaper place with extra rooms to accommodate everyone. Sorry OP, what a mess.
. 75 is not too young. You have to get into a CcRC while still healthy. They don't take you if your time in independent living is limitedAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would sell the house and get them into a continuous care community near you, take the left-over money and put it in the bank/whatever a financial planner recommends.
Use the extra money for fun trips and save some for care when they are too told to care for themselves.
We did this for my mom and it was the best thing we did. Friends, no house to care for, activities, easily affordable.
Too young for CCRC. It's also very expensive. They won't be able to afford the buy in or monthly fees.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My concern would be that no matter how the 20k is paid, this is only the beginning of huge expenses coming your IL’s way.
Do they have any assets to sell like an extra car? Anything that would bring in some liquid?
This is a wake up call, OP - I really think they need to sell current home and downsize immediately- they can’t sustain their current lifestyle.
I think I’d list their house AS-IS and sell through a We Buy Any House type service. Get some cash and go from there.
Where in the world do people think they can live cheaper than in a paid off house?
They’re only going to live another ten years- sell the $750k house - surely there’s somewhere they can afford on $75k a year.
OP says it’s worth $300k. And what if they live longer. Then who pays.
SS. At 85 they wont' need much.
Look, why should the kids shell out cash now—if they're going to inherit the house anyway, sell the house and tighten the belt.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would sell the house and get them into a continuous care community near you, take the left-over money and put it in the bank/whatever a financial planner recommends.
Use the extra money for fun trips and save some for care when they are too told to care for themselves.
We did this for my mom and it was the best thing we did. Friends, no house to care for, activities, easily affordable.
This is the answer. I know several friends that have done this and were able to afford their lives.
Anonymous wrote:Someone mentioned it already - a reverse mortgage. It is a real and effective tool designed specifically for people like your in laws. It is called HECM, US government backed reverse mortgage. Given their age they should be able to get about 50% of their house value as a loan. They will not be required to pay either interest or principal on the loan as long as they occupy the house. But the principal and accumulated interested would become due the moment they leave the house. If they die and you inherit the house you would have to repay the loan or turn the house over to the bank. Worst case financial scenario for you just don’t get the house.
Anonymous wrote:My mom lives entirely on SS. I thought that was pretty much par for the course. She owns her townhome.
I'd pay for a new roof if she needed one. I don't have much money but she raised me entirely by herself. If I can't pay her back, what kind of child am I?
Anonymous wrote:I would sell the house and get them into a continuous care community near you, take the left-over money and put it in the bank/whatever a financial planner recommends.
Use the extra money for fun trips and save some for care when they are too told to care for themselves.
We did this for my mom and it was the best thing we did. Friends, no house to care for, activities, easily affordable.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just give them the money. Pay it directly to the company.
+2 FFS
If you can afford it and they were/are good to you and your husband
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My mom lives entirely on SS. I thought that was pretty much par for the course. She owns her townhome.
I'd pay for a new roof if she needed one. I don't have much money but she raised me entirely by herself. If I can't pay her back, what kind of child am I?
If you can't pay her back because you don't have the resources, it doesn't change who you are. If you are able and don't, that's a different story.
I can always find more jobs. Where there's a will, there's a way. Even with all three of my jobs, I still make less than $100k.
It sounds like you don't have the money to help your mother in this way without endangering your own retirement.
"Where there's a will there's a way" also applies to your mom. There's no shame in finding her a place she can live in on her means.
Also, this sounds very different than the OP, whose parents are not careful with their money and are possibly past the point of being able to manage it themselves.
It sounds like your mom is poor through no fault of her own because she worked her butt off as a single mom to care for you and your sibling.