Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel that yet again, the social extroverts are advantaged in this new scenario.
College apps were probably the last bastion of selection based on achievement (and nebulous other activities) without a direct social component. It can give a leg up to intelligent kids who are shy in-person, but can express themselves well on paper. These are 17 year olds! They're allowed to be uncertain and lack confidence in their public persona! They have lots of growing to do.
If you insert a live video where kids need to talk to show off how mature they are... it will only select for that portion of the population who can act like that (regardless of whether or not they truly are like that).
So, this is not an improvement. Like selections based on extra-curriculars and sports, it's just another way of ignoring academic achievement, which should be the main criteria for university admissions. US colleges thinks they're holding a popularity contest. Universities should educate the brightest, not the most popular.
Colleges do not value kids who sit in their dorm rooms all day without social contact.
It's why at a young age you need to push kids to get out of that habit, if that is how they are so inclined. Society will not be kind to them.
I disagree with you. I think its an improvement. You get more socially well-adjusted kids, who end up engaging in all a university has to offer. There's more to life than a classroom. If you don't understand the priorities of American universities, then go elsewhere. Top universities are looking for the brightest. They are actually looking for the most talented, the rarest, the most likely to make an impact. It's not always the "brightest" as you put it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Unclear?
But there’s a reason they are all jumping on “Glimpse” videos. They want to see kids talk off the cuff for 120 seconds in their own words looking at a camera.
Think they are trying to filter out for kids who aren’t able to socially integrate.
Or, the more likely reason is they want to see the kids ethnicity so they can continue using that for admissions without putting it on paper.
It is 100% this. They were stripped of asking and they had to be very careful with essay prompts—-this year (and next 3) with Trump they are scrapping anything that remotely sounds like DEI so….cue the videos…
Yes. It’s so obvious.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I feel that yet again, the social extroverts are advantaged in this new scenario.
College apps were probably the last bastion of selection based on achievement (and nebulous other activities) without a direct social component. It can give a leg up to intelligent kids who are shy in-person, but can express themselves well on paper. These are 17 year olds! They're allowed to be uncertain and lack confidence in their public persona! They have lots of growing to do.
If you insert a live video where kids need to talk to show off how mature they are... it will only select for that portion of the population who can act like that (regardless of whether or not they truly are like that).
So, this is not an improvement. Like selections based on extra-curriculars and sports, it's just another way of ignoring academic achievement, which should be the main criteria for university admissions. US colleges thinks they're holding a popularity contest. Universities should educate the brightest, not the most popular.
Colleges do not value kids who sit in their dorm rooms all day without social contact.
It's why at a young age you need to push kids to get out of that habit, if that is how they are so inclined. Society will not be kind to them.
I disagree with you. I think its an improvement. You get more socially well-adjusted kids, who end up engaging in all a university has to offer. There's more to life than a classroom. If you don't understand the priorities of American universities, then go elsewhere. Top universities are looking for the brightest. They are actually looking for the most talented, the rarest, the most likely to make an impact. It's not always the "brightest" as you put it.
Anonymous wrote:This sounds like my kid's worst nightmare. It's just 100% not their personality.
I haven't read the whole thread. Can someone please tell me if there are any schools that REQUIRE this with their application? If so, which schools? And which other schools (not listed in the OP) will be "offering" this as an option? Ugh.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It sounds like this, which one of the private schools required when DS was applying a few years ago.
https://www.enrollment.org/tools/snapshot/character-skills-snapshot
It presumably gives an insight into interpersonal skills and maturity. My guess is that these colleges are finding that some applicants who seem great on paper lack EQ skills.
So they are going to require adherence to a bunch of topic that favor the exact same type of student they currently are full of?
That wasn't my takeaway . . . more that they want to see whether kids can coherently share their thoughts ff the cuff, listen to what others have to say, and have respectful conversations.
DP. Do you seriously think AOs are going to sit and watch hundreds of these recorded conversations? They’re not. I can’t imagine any parent with half a brain cell allowing their kid to participate in this.
Where did I say that? It was required for my DS's HS application for Riverdale in the Bronx. It's conducted by an outside company that provides the school with a report.
Did you not find that a bit chilling?
Not when you're asking to be admitted to a setting where you're expected to engage in academic discourse.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It sounds like this, which one of the private schools required when DS was applying a few years ago.
https://www.enrollment.org/tools/snapshot/character-skills-snapshot
It presumably gives an insight into interpersonal skills and maturity. My guess is that these colleges are finding that some applicants who seem great on paper lack EQ skills.
So they are going to require adherence to a bunch of topic that favor the exact same type of student they currently are full of?
That wasn't my takeaway . . . more that they want to see whether kids can coherently share their thoughts ff the cuff, listen to what others have to say, and have respectful conversations.
DP. Do you seriously think AOs are going to sit and watch hundreds of these recorded conversations? They’re not. I can’t imagine any parent with half a brain cell allowing their kid to participate in this.
Where did I say that? It was required for my DS's HS application for Riverdale in the Bronx. It's conducted by an outside company that provides the school with a report.
Did you not find that a bit chilling?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Unclear?
But there’s a reason they are all jumping on “Glimpse” videos. They want to see kids talk off the cuff for 120 seconds in their own words looking at a camera.
Think they are trying to filter out for kids who aren’t able to socially integrate.
Or, the more likely reason is they want to see the kids ethnicity so they can continue using that for admissions without putting it on paper.
It is 100% this. They were stripped of asking and they had to be very careful with essay prompts—-this year (and next 3) with Trump they are scrapping anything that remotely sounds like DEI so….cue the videos…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It sounds like this, which one of the private schools required when DS was applying a few years ago.
https://www.enrollment.org/tools/snapshot/character-skills-snapshot
It presumably gives an insight into interpersonal skills and maturity. My guess is that these colleges are finding that some applicants who seem great on paper lack EQ skills.
So they are going to require adherence to a bunch of topic that favor the exact same type of student they currently are full of?
That wasn't my takeaway . . . more that they want to see whether kids can coherently share their thoughts ff the cuff, listen to what others have to say, and have respectful conversations.
DP. Do you seriously think AOs are going to sit and watch hundreds of these recorded conversations? They’re not. I can’t imagine any parent with half a brain cell allowing their kid to participate in this.
Where did I say that? It was required for my DS's HS application for Riverdale in the Bronx. It's conducted by an outside company that provides the school with a report.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It sounds like this, which one of the private schools required when DS was applying a few years ago.
https://www.enrollment.org/tools/snapshot/character-skills-snapshot
It presumably gives an insight into interpersonal skills and maturity. My guess is that these colleges are finding that some applicants who seem great on paper lack EQ skills.
So they are going to require adherence to a bunch of topic that favor the exact same type of student they currently are full of?
That wasn't my takeaway . . . more that they want to see whether kids can coherently share their thoughts ff the cuff, listen to what others have to say, and have respectful conversations.
DP. Do you seriously think AOs are going to sit and watch hundreds of these recorded conversations? They’re not. I can’t imagine any parent with half a brain cell allowing their kid to participate in this.
They have that taken care of. A “score card” is provided that you submit to the colleges.