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Anonymous wrote:As rumored, Michigan will offer ED this year. Go Blue!

Yeehaw ! Giddyup there big boy !

Frenchclamations with a western twang? Having an identity crisis? Apply to Michigan!

I’m confused. Is Michigan eliminating EA?

If not, why would they be in any worse of a position with the high-stat kids?

I’ll use my DS as an example. He’s super high stats/rigor. His first choice is a private T10 and his second choice is Michigan. So he’s planning to ED at the private T10 and EA at Michigan (OOS).

If he gets in to the ED, he’ll pull the Michigan app. If he doesn’t, he’ll submit his other applications, and then decide among his admit in April.

How does Michigan’s decision to add ED make it more likely they’ll lose kids like my DS? He’s going to do exactly what he would have done if there was no ED, and they still have the same opportunity to accept/enroll him as they otherwise would have.

To me, this is actually an OPPORTUNITY for Michigan to snag more high status OOS kids in a more efficient way.

If Michigan were DS’s first choice, he’d be 100% thrill to apply ED - both to have the chance to lock it in by December (no no need to submit all the other applications) and more importantly because he’d want to show/prove to Michigan that they are indeed his first choice, not a back-up plan in case he doesn’t get into 5-10 other schools (which is a reasonable assumption to make given his stats.)

Anonymous wrote:As rumored, Michigan will offer ED this year. Go Blue!

Yeehaw ! Giddyup there big boy !

As a Michigander who knows the “quality” of in state kids, this is one of the grossest UB threads in a long time.

Unfortunately, us "poors" can't ED schools with $80k+ COA.

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Anonymous wrote:All of this talk about “Ivy level” kids as if Ivy admittance for unhooked kids isn’t a total crapshoot. Plenty will take a Michigan ED option if ED offers a clear boost.

Don’t disagree with you, but the ones that have a legit shot won’t settle.

I know very few kids at our private that have Michigan as a first choice, nearly all see it as a nice fallback option.

And this is why it's smart for Michigan to use ED to distinguish between the first-choice and fallback kids.

Except then they will lose out on the higher stat kids. We’ll have to see how they balance it out.

Yes, they will lose out on the kids that are the very, very top that use Michigan as a respectable back up. Ivy caliber kids. But these kids USUALLY do not end up matriculating to Michigan. The next level kids are the ones that will ED to Michigan. These are the top 20% of the class, 34/1500 kids. Hardly low stats kids.

Yes but Michigan gets a lot of these top kids now and will lose them. Disagree that next level kids will ED — the level below that.

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Anonymous wrote:All of this talk about “Ivy level” kids as if Ivy admittance for unhooked kids isn’t a total crapshoot. Plenty will take a Michigan ED option if ED offers a clear boost.

Don’t disagree with you, but the ones that have a legit shot won’t settle.

I know very few kids at our private that have Michigan as a first choice, nearly all see it as a nice fallback option.

And this is why it's smart for Michigan to use ED to distinguish between the first-choice and fallback kids.

Except then they will lose out on the higher stat kids. We’ll have to see how they balance it out.

Yes, they will lose out on the kids that are the very, very top that use Michigan as a respectable back up. Ivy caliber kids. But these kids USUALLY do not end up matriculating to Michigan. The next level kids are the ones that will ED to Michigan. These are the top 20% of the class, 34/1500 kids. Hardly low stats kids.

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Anonymous wrote:All of this talk about “Ivy level” kids as if Ivy admittance for unhooked kids isn’t a total crapshoot. Plenty will take a Michigan ED option if ED offers a clear boost.

Don’t disagree with you, but the ones that have a legit shot won’t settle.

I know very few kids at our private that have Michigan as a first choice, nearly all see it as a nice fallback option.

This is true. The ED kids will be lower quality. The in-state kids are already low quality. Michigan is trying to stop being top kids’ third choice, so it’s understandable, but the quality of the undergrad student body (already hardly that of a top 20 school) will go down another notch.

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Anonymous wrote:All of this talk about “Ivy level” kids as if Ivy admittance for unhooked kids isn’t a total crapshoot. Plenty will take a Michigan ED option if ED offers a clear boost.

Don’t disagree with you, but the ones that have a legit shot won’t settle.

I know very few kids at our private that have Michigan as a first choice, nearly all see it as a nice fallback option.

And this is why it's smart for Michigan to use ED to distinguish between the first-choice and fallback kids.

Except then they will lose out on the higher stat kids. We’ll have to see how they balance it out.

Maybe they don't want those higher stat kids and the associated dance. Maybe they want the first-choice kids. Maybe they're tired of playing all the numbers/waitlist/yield games.

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Anonymous wrote:All of this talk about “Ivy level” kids as if Ivy admittance for unhooked kids isn’t a total crapshoot. Plenty will take a Michigan ED option if ED offers a clear boost.

Don’t disagree with you, but the ones that have a legit shot won’t settle.

I know very few kids at our private that have Michigan as a first choice, nearly all see it as a nice fallback option.

And this is why it's smart for Michigan to use ED to distinguish between the first-choice and fallback kids.

Exactly. And if fallback acceptances get harder, more will have to decide if they can live with it as a first choice. It’s a smart move on the university’s part.

Agreed. I’ve always wondered why they didn’t do this.

It will put DD in a tough position at ED time this fall. Michigan is her second choice, but it’s close …..

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand. Michigan EA acceptance rate is around 20%. Why a strong OOS applicant would opt for ED? With an EA acceptance rate that high, they will just keep using EA.

My understanding is that the bulk of EA acceptances are in-state.

OOS applicants are almost always deferred, if not rejected outright, unless they’re a massive “institutional priority.”

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Anonymous wrote:All of this talk about “Ivy level” kids as if Ivy admittance for unhooked kids isn’t a total crapshoot. Plenty will take a Michigan ED option if ED offers a clear boost.

Don’t disagree with you, but the ones that have a legit shot won’t settle.

I know very few kids at our private that have Michigan as a first choice, nearly all see it as a nice fallback option.

And this is why it's smart for Michigan to use ED to distinguish between the first-choice and fallback kids.

Except then they will lose out on the higher stat kids. We’ll have to see how they balance it out.

They have data on cross-admits and will have a good sense of which higher stats kids they're losing.

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Anonymous wrote:All of this talk about “Ivy level” kids as if Ivy admittance for unhooked kids isn’t a total crapshoot. Plenty will take a Michigan ED option if ED offers a clear boost.

Don’t disagree with you, but the ones that have a legit shot won’t settle.

I know very few kids at our private that have Michigan as a first choice, nearly all see it as a nice fallback option.

And this is why it's smart for Michigan to use ED to distinguish between the first-choice and fallback kids.

Exactly. And if fallback acceptances get harder, more will have to decide if they can live with it as a first choice. It’s a smart move on the university’s part.

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Anonymous wrote:All of this talk about “Ivy level” kids as if Ivy admittance for unhooked kids isn’t a total crapshoot. Plenty will take a Michigan ED option if ED offers a clear boost.

Don’t disagree with you, but the ones that have a legit shot won’t settle.

I know very few kids at our private that have Michigan as a first choice, nearly all see it as a nice fallback option.

And this is why it's smart for Michigan to use ED to distinguish between the first-choice and fallback kids.

Except then they will lose out on the higher stat kids. We’ll have to see how they balance it out.

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Anonymous wrote:All of this talk about “Ivy level” kids as if Ivy admittance for unhooked kids isn’t a total crapshoot. Plenty will take a Michigan ED option if ED offers a clear boost.

Don’t disagree with you, but the ones that have a legit shot won’t settle.

I know very few kids at our private that have Michigan as a first choice, nearly all see it as a nice fallback option.

And this is why it's smart for Michigan to use ED to distinguish between the first-choice and fallback kids.