Anonymous
Post 08/07/2025 10:07     Subject: Race on common app

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do they even need the data? They should get rid of it all.

Though as someone else said, if you aren't smart enough to drop it in your essay ("As president of my school's black students association..."), you aren't smart enough to go to the school.


Exactly!
My kids are Black and they will work it all day long.


My kids cited their background/ culture in essays from an inspirational standpoint. That's allowed. However, they had 4.0+ GPAs and 1500+ scores too.

The elites schools will get the best URMs.

Ignorant people think just saying you're black in an essay will get you into Harvard.


There's less than 1000 black students with a 1500 SAT score. I don't think people think these are the kids that don't belong at top schools. But a black student with a scooter in the 1300s probably shouldn't be there.


Source for this information? Did you just make it up?
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2025 09:56     Subject: Race on common app

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do they even need the data? They should get rid of it all.

Though as someone else said, if you aren't smart enough to drop it in your essay ("As president of my school's black students association..."), you aren't smart enough to go to the school.


Exactly!
My kids are Black and they will work it all day long.


My kids cited their background/ culture in essays from an inspirational standpoint. That's allowed. However, they had 4.0+ GPAs and 1500+ scores too.

The elites schools will get the best URMs.

Ignorant people think just saying you're black in an essay will get you into Harvard.


There's less than 1000 black students with a 1500 SAT score. I don't think people think these are the kids that don't belong at top schools. But a black student with a scooter in the 1300s probably shouldn't be there.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2025 09:53     Subject: Race on common app

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do they even need the data? They should get rid of it all.

Though as someone else said, if you aren't smart enough to drop it in your essay ("As president of my school's black students association..."), you aren't smart enough to go to the school.


Exactly!
My kids are Black and they will work it all day long.


I didn't blame you. I wouldn't be proud of it but it's an advantage that you can't ignore.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2025 09:52     Subject: Race on common app

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sorry DCUM haters, but smart black kids will still get accepted to top colleges.


There aren't enough to satisfy the demand.
There are more black students in Ivy+ than black students that scores 1400+ on the SAT

About half the black students at Harvard be going to Cornell and almost all the black students at Columbia should probably be going to Northeastern or NYU and the black students at Georgetown and NYU should probably be going to Penn State or Howard. These are all very good schools but they are not the same.


And you're the arbiter of where these black students at top schools belong? Funny.

What about the average legacy white boys going to these schools? Should they be going to Penn State or Elon instead?


I didn't think legacy preferences are fair but they are not illegal like racial discrimination.

Is the argument that we should continue to racially discriminate in favor of blacks and hispanics because legacy preferences exist and that tends to help white people?
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2025 09:40     Subject: Re:Race on common app

^*mention you are urm
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2025 09:39     Subject: Re:Race on common app

With Trump it might actually be a disadvantage to me rink you are urn unless you are sure your stats are I. The tippy top of the 50k-70k applying to any given school.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2025 09:06     Subject: Race on common app

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:URM should boycott the race box this year. Don’t check it. Don’t leave any trace for Fed. I think AN also recommended against writing about it in essays.


Without the conscious preference of admissions committees, the URM population at these schools would drop in half

They started hiding the race question from admissions two years ago.

The same time they worked in the diversity essay topics.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2025 08:46     Subject: Race on common app

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:URM should boycott the race box this year. Don’t check it. Don’t leave any trace for Fed. I think AN also recommended against writing about it in essays.


Without the conscious preference of admissions committees, the URM population at these schools would drop in half

They started hiding the race question from admissions two years ago.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2025 00:07     Subject: Race on common app

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do they even need the data? They should get rid of it all.

Though as someone else said, if you aren't smart enough to drop it in your essay ("As president of my school's black students association..."), you aren't smart enough to go to the school.


Exactly!
My kids are Black and they will work it all day long.


And your kid will be strategically selected to be the other Black kid in the class of '30.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2025 00:05     Subject: Race on common app

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do they even need the data? They should get rid of it all.

Though as someone else said, if you aren't smart enough to drop it in your essay ("As president of my school's black students association..."), you aren't smart enough to go to the school.


Exactly!
My kids are Black and they will work it all day long.


My kids cited their background/ culture in essays from an inspirational standpoint. That's allowed. However, they had 4.0+ GPAs and 1500+ scores too.

The elites schools will get the best URMs.

Ignorant people think just saying you're black in an essay will get you into Harvard.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2025 00:01     Subject: Race on common app

Anonymous wrote:Why do they even need the data? They should get rid of it all.

Though as someone else said, if you aren't smart enough to drop it in your essay ("As president of my school's black students association..."), you aren't smart enough to go to the school.


Wonder what that someone says about the upcoming cycle?
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2025 23:33     Subject: Race on common app

Anonymous wrote:Why do they even need the data? They should get rid of it all.

Though as someone else said, if you aren't smart enough to drop it in your essay ("As president of my school's black students association..."), you aren't smart enough to go to the school.


Exactly!
My kids are Black and they will work it all day long.
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2025 22:21     Subject: Race on common app

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sorry DCUM haters, but smart black kids will still get accepted to top colleges.


There aren't enough to satisfy the demand.
There are more black students in Ivy+ than black students that scores 1400+ on the SAT

About half the black students at Harvard be going to Cornell and almost all the black students at Columbia should probably be going to Northeastern or NYU and the black students at Georgetown and NYU should probably be going to Penn State or Howard. These are all very good schools but they are not the same.


And you're the arbiter of where these black students at top schools belong? Funny.

What about the average legacy white boys going to these schools? Should they be going to Penn State or Elon instead?
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2025 20:54     Subject: Race on common app

Anonymous wrote:So are kids not supposed to put their race/heritage in essays? If Asian?

PP wrote Asian with high stats should include their race - why?


If you are Asian, don’t talk about heritage in your essays.

If you are high stats Asian, you still wouldn’t talk about heritage in your essays. But you should check the race box in common app.

AOs can’t see the race box, and your last name already says you are Asian.

By checking the race box, federal government can gather racial data, stats, and check if there is discrimination based on race.
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2025 17:19     Subject: Race on common app

Anonymous wrote:URM should boycott the race box this year. Don’t check it. Don’t leave any trace for Fed. I think AN also recommended against writing about it in essays.


Without the conscious preference of admissions committees, the URM population at these schools would drop in half