Anonymous wrote:When the teachers have the authority and autonomy to actually teach what they know instead of ridiculous curriculum mandates and now horrific mandates, then we can worry about clothes, ok? Teachers have masters and terminal degrees and yet have to follow scripts and steer away from anything that might go against someone's niche religious following. So, it makes sense that they wear T shirts with school logos on it and sneakers. They are hired contract service people.

Anonymous wrote:DMV teacher here.

My attire has zero affect in my ability to teach.

Earlier post about school culture and attire nailed it. If the school is more "traditional," teachers should be more professionally dressed.

However, the profession is in crisis. It's less economically viable to teach now than it was a decade ago.

Bored parents worrying about pleats or no pleats isn't helping the cause.

Anonymous wrote:DMV teacher here.

My attire has zero affect in my ability to teach.

Earlier post about school culture and attire nailed it. If the school is more "traditional," teachers should be more professionally dressed.

However, the profession is in crisis. It's less economically viable to teach now than it was a decade ago.

Bored parents worrying about pleats or no pleats isn't helping the cause.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why you care, really. My mom taught public high school for 35 years and always wore dresses, skirts, statement jewelry. Jeans for exam week only. However, if they are teaching well, IDGAF what they are wearing.

But I do care.

We are paying good money for private school and the hope is they would take education seriously. Why demand a dress code for students and let teachers wear jeans?

And why suggest a dress code for an evening event and then show up in jeans?

And don’t even get me started on visible tattoos.

Move your kid to a different school.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why you care, really. My mom taught public high school for 35 years and always wore dresses, skirts, statement jewelry. Jeans for exam week only. However, if they are teaching well, IDGAF what they are wearing.

But I do care.

We are paying good money for private school and the hope is they would take education seriously. Why demand a dress code for students and let teachers wear jeans?

And why suggest a dress code for an evening event and then show up in jeans?

And don’t even get me started on visible tattoos.

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Anonymous wrote:With everything happening in the world right now, you’re worried about teachers wearing jeans?? Check your privilege.

This!

This is not about privilege. Go back to public school if you don’t care if teachers dress professionally. I also don’t want my doctor coming to work in pajama bottoms. Take your job seriously.

DP. I still am in awe of this expectation that you pay private school teachers much less but you demand so much more.

If the teacher wears the same pair of dress pants with a different sweater each day, is that enough for you? As long as they aren’t in jeans? I’m just wondering where the line is considering how little they get paid.

Yes.

Let’s not exaggerate here. Private school teachers aren’t forced to wear rags to school while public school is able to wear Versace. Private school teachers can afford to purchase some low cost professional clothes. Walmart and Costco are options.

They are not your servants. OP, you are just disgusting.

It's also ironic that in 78 posts, no one has mentioned HOW these teachers teach, just what they happen to wear. The research on this is fragmentary and tenuous at best, basically so incomplete that there are no clear conclusions much less definitive proof that better dress is more effective.

So it's all about the biases of various parents. Speaking as a teacher, how a teacher is dressed is way down the list of how I measure another teacher's effectiveness in the classroom, maybe at the bottom of the top ten factors to consider.

Your words are so true, but sadly appearance is everything in our society. And unfortunately, if you’re not dressed appropriately, you will not be treated with respect by the parents who are the paying customer. But this is true not only for teachers but for most professions.

Uh, no, ten years teaching here and previous government experience. It's not "everything" in many fields now. Fewer and fewer people downtown are in coats and ties. I have been treated with respect and affection by many parents grateful that I could reach their kid and get them excited about learning again.

Happily, what you do in your job has come to matter the most. How much you can engage a kid and get them to learn is what matters in school. I've never worn a tie in a classroom (or any office since 2000) and never will.

Times change.

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Anonymous wrote:With everything happening in the world right now, you’re worried about teachers wearing jeans?? Check your privilege.

This!

This is not about privilege. Go back to public school if you don’t care if teachers dress professionally. I also don’t want my doctor coming to work in pajama bottoms. Take your job seriously.

DP. I still am in awe of this expectation that you pay private school teachers much less but you demand so much more.

If the teacher wears the same pair of dress pants with a different sweater each day, is that enough for you? As long as they aren’t in jeans? I’m just wondering where the line is considering how little they get paid.

Yes.

Let’s not exaggerate here. Private school teachers aren’t forced to wear rags to school while public school is able to wear Versace. Private school teachers can afford to purchase some low cost professional clothes. Walmart and Costco are options.

They are not your servants. OP, you are just disgusting.

It's also ironic that in 78 posts, no one has mentioned HOW these teachers teach, just what they happen to wear. The research on this is fragmentary and tenuous at best, basically so incomplete that there are no clear conclusions much less definitive proof that better dress is more effective.

So it's all about the biases of various parents. Speaking as a teacher, how a teacher is dressed is way down the list of how I measure another teacher's effectiveness in the classroom, maybe at the bottom of the top ten factors to consider.

Your words are so true, but sadly appearance is everything in our society. And unfortunately, if you’re not dressed appropriately, you will not be treated with respect by the parents who are the paying customer. But this is true not only for teachers but for most professions.

You're not a customer, you're a parent. While you pay your child's tuition, we're talking about a school, not a business, and nonprofits, to boot. It's attitudes such as this one that make it a nightmare to be a teacher, especially when umhappy parents remind me that they "pay my salary."

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Anonymous wrote:With everything happening in the world right now, you’re worried about teachers wearing jeans?? Check your privilege.

This!

This is not about privilege. Go back to public school if you don’t care if teachers dress professionally. I also don’t want my doctor coming to work in pajama bottoms. Take your job seriously.

DP. I still am in awe of this expectation that you pay private school teachers much less but you demand so much more.

If the teacher wears the same pair of dress pants with a different sweater each day, is that enough for you? As long as they aren’t in jeans? I’m just wondering where the line is considering how little they get paid.

Yes.

Let’s not exaggerate here. Private school teachers aren’t forced to wear rags to school while public school is able to wear Versace. Private school teachers can afford to purchase some low cost professional clothes. Walmart and Costco are options.

They are not your servants. OP, you are just disgusting.

It's also ironic that in 78 posts, no one has mentioned HOW these teachers teach, just what they happen to wear. The research on this is fragmentary and tenuous at best, basically so incomplete that there are no clear conclusions much less definitive proof that better dress is more effective.

So it's all about the biases of various parents. Speaking as a teacher, how a teacher is dressed is way down the list of how I measure another teacher's effectiveness in the classroom, maybe at the bottom of the top ten factors to consider.

Your words are so true, but sadly appearance is everything in our society. And unfortunately, if you’re not dressed appropriately, you will not be treated with respect by the parents who are the paying customer. But this is true not only for teachers but for most professions.