Anonymous
Post 07/07/2025 08:01     Subject: America Party
Anonymous wrote:This is just another ploy by Elon to help Republicans consolidate power


They already consolidated power with musk's help, and they used it to screw over a lot of Republicans Democrats and independents.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2025 07:49     Subject: America Party
If he were honestly serious about helping America and a better path forward, he would do everything he could to get rid of the electoral college and establish ranked choice voting Nationwide
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2025 07:49     Subject: America Party
This is just another ploy by Elon to help Republicans consolidate power
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2025 07:18     Subject: America Party
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So, do we think this will siphon voters from current Republicans (either disaffected MAGA or “traditional” business Republicans)? Or will it’s opposition to Trump siphon from the Democrats?


Republicans. Only the most confused Democrats would get on board with this.

Disagree. Plenty of idiots on the left, look at the support for RFK.
Signed long time Dem


DP. I’m afraid you’re right. The far left and the far right have a lot in common. Fortunately, we have fewer extremists than the right does though. He’ll take more from the GOP.


This early version of his platform doesn’t have a single ideal that would appeal to anyone left of center. I don’t know how he would steal a single actual democrat.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2025 01:05     Subject: America Party
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So, do we think this will siphon voters from current Republicans (either disaffected MAGA or “traditional” business Republicans)? Or will it’s opposition to Trump siphon from the Democrats?


Republicans. Only the most confused Democrats would get on board with this.

Disagree. Plenty of idiots on the left, look at the support for RFK.
Signed long time Dem


DP. I’m afraid you’re right. The far left and the far right have a lot in common. Fortunately, we have fewer extremists than the right does though. He’ll take more from the GOP.
Anonymous
Post 07/07/2025 00:47     Subject: America Party
Anonymous wrote:Musk has a lot of money but zero charisma and persuading power. Trump is a tried and true lifelong oil snake seller and con man. Thats why he is so important for the GOP billionaires, because he can capture the votes and loyalty of millions id people who will happily vote for him even if his policies will literally kill them. I doubt the Koch brothers would have won elections if they run themselves, they need somebody like Trump to pass a law that lower their taxes, cut business regulations, and paid for it with an increase in the deficit and a $1 trillion cur to Medicaid . Like the old fable where the mice happily followed the player of the flute down the cliff to their death.

Just having money is not enough to win elections. Look when Bloomberg tried to run. It takes a person with special skills to win with a populist campaign, money us not enough. Berlusconi was a special person like that (and i say as a person who loathed him). He created a party from nothing in February and won the elections in June. Unfortunately he was younger snd far, far more intelligent than Trump so he lasted decades.

Musk should have just stayed in the shadows and finance primary challenges to GOP congress members. He will go nowhere with his party other than tanking his companies. Because i loath him too, it will be satisfying to watch. And yes, hopefully Trump is not going to last too long


Our major political parties crave people who can raise money for grifting and therefore ulta-wealthy knuckleheads willing to spend their own money do them no good.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2025 21:08     Subject: America Party
I love Elon but this is embarrassing. It's like when Kanye tried to start the Birthday Party as a political party. This is dumb.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2025 20:34     Subject: America Party
Musk has a lot of money but zero charisma and persuading power. Trump is a tried and true lifelong oil snake seller and con man. Thats why he is so important for the GOP billionaires, because he can capture the votes and loyalty of millions id people who will happily vote for him even if his policies will literally kill them. I doubt the Koch brothers would have won elections if they run themselves, they need somebody like Trump to pass a law that lower their taxes, cut business regulations, and paid for it with an increase in the deficit and a $1 trillion cur to Medicaid . Like the old fable where the mice happily followed the player of the flute down the cliff to their death.

Just having money is not enough to win elections. Look when Bloomberg tried to run. It takes a person with special skills to win with a populist campaign, money us not enough. Berlusconi was a special person like that (and i say as a person who loathed him). He created a party from nothing in February and won the elections in June. Unfortunately he was younger snd far, far more intelligent than Trump so he lasted decades.

Musk should have just stayed in the shadows and finance primary challenges to GOP congress members. He will go nowhere with his party other than tanking his companies. Because i loath him too, it will be satisfying to watch. And yes, hopefully Trump is not going to last too long
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2025 20:24     Subject: America Party
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If the America party promised to deport it's founder Elon, then I might consider supporting it. We already have a Centrist party - they are called Democrats.


NP. No way. You are delusional.


Because the democrats are slightly right of center? I agree.

What musk is doing is repackaging far right maga ideals for a different market. When the time comes he will unite with maga to wreck the country.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2025 19:43     Subject: Re:America Party
This will go nowhere. If it were to take some MAGA votes (it won’t) Trump can F Musk over big time. MAGA is all in for Trump, which in a way gives me comfort because he’s almost 80 years old. Actuarial tables don’t lie.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2025 19:42     Subject: America Party
Anonymous wrote:If the America party promised to deport it's founder Elon, then I might consider supporting it. We already have a Centrist party - they are called Democrats.


NP. No way. You are delusional.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2025 19:39     Subject: America Party
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So, do we think this will siphon voters from current Republicans (either disaffected MAGA or “traditional” business Republicans)? Or will it’s opposition to Trump siphon from the Democrats?


Republicans. Only the most confused Democrats would get on board with this.

Disagree. Plenty of idiots on the left, look at the support for RFK.
Signed long time Dem
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2025 19:17     Subject: America Party
Anonymous wrote:So, do we think this will siphon voters from current Republicans (either disaffected MAGA or “traditional” business Republicans)? Or will it’s opposition to Trump siphon from the Democrats?


Republicans. Only the most confused Democrats would get on board with this.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2025 19:09     Subject: America Party
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If the America party promised to deport it's founder Elon, then I might consider supporting it. We already have a Centrist party - they are called Democrats.


Not for the past 30 or 40 years.


Have you been anywhere else than your own backyard? US's Democrats would be considered conservatives in most other countries.
Anonymous
Post 07/06/2025 19:06     Subject: America Party
Elon Musk is a foreigner with revolutionary making amount of money. He needs to stay out.