Anonymous wrote:Borders weren’t “opened” in January 2022, dumbfuq

You are 100% correct. The border opened up in 2020 when Biden was elected. Check out the last 10 years.

https://ohss.dhs.gov/khsm/cbp-encounters

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Anonymous wrote:Just announced by Commonwealth’s Governor Youngkin: 1,000 more illegal aliens have been rounded up by a joint task force of the Commonwealth and the A.G.:

https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/virginia/bondi-gov-youngkin-virginia-task-force-arrests-1000-criminal-illegal-aliens


This is only the beginning.

If you are in the U.S. illegally, you just have to go back.

Yeah, you can do your own roofing and landscaping from now on. So dumb!

Your argument is:

“but who will pick the cotton?”

Is your argument: "We don't need fresh fruits or vegetables"?

They should round up all the urban young men and if they can’t prove that they have a job or are doing something productive like being the full time carer for a disabled person or studying full time (and actually doing well) then they should bus them all to the fields that need work and keep them there. It’s quite simple really. Be productive or we’ll take you where you can be.

Are you suggesting chain gangs or slavery?

Democrats do love their slavery. They fought to keep it in 1865 and they are demanding to bring it back now apparently.

You aren’t the sharpest knife in the drawer, are ya?

We really should start by taking all the useless to society people. Ie: DC jail inmates and send them to the fields. They can pick produce and provide a service to the rest of the country.

Serve their time working.

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Anonymous wrote:Just announced by Commonwealth’s Governor Youngkin: 1,000 more illegal aliens have been rounded up by a joint task force of the Commonwealth and the A.G.:

https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/virginia/bondi-gov-youngkin-virginia-task-force-arrests-1000-criminal-illegal-aliens


This is only the beginning.

If you are in the U.S. illegally, you just have to go back.

Yeah, you can do your own roofing and landscaping from now on. So dumb!

Right, no landscape or roofing work took place before the borders were opened in January 2021.

Borders weren’t “opened” in January 2022, dumbfuq

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Anonymous wrote:Just announced by Commonwealth’s Governor Youngkin: 1,000 more illegal aliens have been rounded up by a joint task force of the Commonwealth and the A.G.:

https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/virginia/bondi-gov-youngkin-virginia-task-force-arrests-1000-criminal-illegal-aliens


This is only the beginning.

If you are in the U.S. illegally, you just have to go back.

Yeah, you can do your own roofing and landscaping from now on. So dumb!

Exploitation of labor

The conservative in me thinks addressing this issue (deporting them) would lead to higher wages and better benefits in the ag sector, which attracts more domestic workers to work in ag. It also would increase investment in mechanization and automation. There will be a time of higher costs increased food prices but when things settle, they should stabilize.

However, on a broader level, I find this entire situation absurd. The United States has become far too reliant on migrant labor, having half of the agricultural workforce undocumented. We need to ask ourselves why this is the case. It ain’t because this is "work Americans won't do". It's entirely because, for over 40 years, corporations have been allowed to exploit cheap imported labor, keeping wages for these jobs disgustingly low sometimes even below the federal minimum wage.

There are plenty of Americans who would be willing to do this work, but not for $12 an hour under the sweltering sun of Texas. Offer $30 an hour plus benefits to harvest lettuce, and you would see plenty of people lining up for those jobs. The problem lies in the fact that neither Democrats nor Republicans have taken meaningful action for decades. BOTH sides have allowed "big ag" to exploit these workers, paying pennies per box harvested perpetuating this cycle of exploitation, and doing so in such a way that if it were to ever dare end, suddenly panic, omg, our foods gonna rot and we're all gonna die of starvation because we cant afford food! They have caught you in this line of thinking, so they will always get their cheap, exploitive labor.

In my opinion, the widespread abuse of migrant labor over the past four decades is a shameful stain on this country. But, just like iPhones and Nike shoes, most people turn a blind eye to the unethical labor practices behind the products they want, so long as the price is low. Just look at OPs post: concerns about "rotting crops" and "skyrocketing prices", and not a single care about the exploitation of these workers. This has been ignored for decades and now that there's a policy threatens to send them home, we just get all up in arms because we might have to pay more.

It’s almost like saying that an economy can’t survive without illegal & low or no cost labor to farm the land.
You know who else used that argument?
The Confederacy during the Civil War.
Let that sink in.

Anonymous wrote:Just announced by Commonwealth’s Governor Youngkin: 1,000 more illegal aliens have been rounded up by a joint task force of the Commonwealth and the A.G.:

https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/virginia/bondi-gov-youngkin-virginia-task-force-arrests-1000-criminal-illegal-aliens


This is only the beginning.

If you are in the U.S. illegally, you just have to go back.

How awful. I bet a number of those people aren’t here illegally. And their attacks on legal immigration is disgusting and fascist.

Shame on anyone who supports this.

Youngkin is the worst governor in Virginia‘s history. He will burn in Hell for his performance.

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Anonymous wrote:The democrat argument essentially boils down to “we need illegal immigrants and open borders because otherwise, who will do landscaping, construction, farm labor, etc”

I just fail to see how this is a good faith, structured argument. There are a million in between solutions that are more organized and managed. For instance, if we are short on farm workers in any given instance we could launch a seasonal labor or some sort of work permit program and let foreign nationals sign up. Why anyone would think massive illegal immigration is a solution to frictions in the labor market is beyond me, and tells me that they really just have an agenda.

Agree. This used to be put forward as a solution but you never hear it any more. I truly believe this is the way.

Actually, that is not what Democrats say. Not sure why you think people writing that are Democrats, unless they are facetiously throwing the standard Republican line back in your face.

Democrats want enforcement with due process, fair wages, human rights. Evidence of that is in the legislation proposed by Democrats in Congress, which Republicans vote against.

Tha maga kiddies are constantly making up monsters to be afraid of, and Jesus, they already seem afraid of everything.

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Anonymous wrote:The democrat argument essentially boils down to “we need illegal immigrants and open borders because otherwise, who will do landscaping, construction, farm labor, etc”

I just fail to see how this is a good faith, structured argument. There are a million in between solutions that are more organized and managed. For instance, if we are short on farm workers in any given instance we could launch a seasonal labor or some sort of work permit program and let foreign nationals sign up. Why anyone would think massive illegal immigration is a solution to frictions in the labor market is beyond me, and tells me that they really just have an agenda.

Agree. This used to be put forward as a solution but you never hear it any more. I truly believe this is the way.

Actually, that is not what Democrats say. Not sure why you think people writing that are Democrats, unless they are facetiously throwing the standard Republican line back in your face.

Democrats want enforcement with due process, fair wages, human rights. Evidence of that is in the legislation proposed by Democrats in Congress, which Republicans vote against.

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Anonymous wrote:Just announced by Commonwealth’s Governor Youngkin: 1,000 more illegal aliens have been rounded up by a joint task force of the Commonwealth and the A.G.:

https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/virginia/bondi-gov-youngkin-virginia-task-force-arrests-1000-criminal-illegal-aliens


This is only the beginning.

If you are in the U.S. illegally, you just have to go back.

Yeah, you can do your own roofing and landscaping from now on. So dumb!

Your argument is:

“but who will pick the cotton?”

Is your argument: "We don't need fresh fruits or vegetables"?

They should round up all the urban young men and if they can’t prove that they have a job or are doing something productive like being the full time carer for a disabled person or studying full time (and actually doing well) then they should bus them all to the fields that need work and keep them there. It’s quite simple really. Be productive or we’ll take you where you can be.

Forced labor camps. How American.

Anonymous wrote:The democrat argument essentially boils down to “we need illegal immigrants and open borders because otherwise, who will do landscaping, construction, farm labor, etc”

I just fail to see how this is a good faith, structured argument. There are a million in between solutions that are more organized and managed. For instance, if we are short on farm workers in any given instance we could launch a seasonal labor or some sort of work permit program and let foreign nationals sign up. Why anyone would think massive illegal immigration is a solution to frictions in the labor market is beyond me, and tells me that they really just have an agenda.

Agree. This used to be put forward as a solution but you never hear it any more. I truly believe this is the way.

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Anonymous wrote:Just announced by Commonwealth’s Governor Youngkin: 1,000 more illegal aliens have been rounded up by a joint task force of the Commonwealth and the A.G.:

https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/virginia/bondi-gov-youngkin-virginia-task-force-arrests-1000-criminal-illegal-aliens


This is only the beginning.

If you are in the U.S. illegally, you just have to go back.

Yeah, you can do your own roofing and landscaping from now on. So dumb!

So you're PRO illegal labor and PRO undercutting of middle class blue collar jobs for Americans? Such a winning strategy.

Do you want to work at landscaping or perhaps, in a meat-packing plant? These are not middle-class jobs - they are jobs that most people do not want, so new immigrants will fill them.

Funny, I have family who do landscaping and construction. They have small businesses themselves and 2-3 1099 contractors they grew up with or are related to) and do very well. They are in their 40s now.

Need to pick up the pace.

It's a good start, but 1,000 is nothing. Hopefully, the CBP Home App can accelerate a return of these immigrants to their native countries.

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Anonymous wrote:Just announced by Commonwealth’s Governor Youngkin: 1,000 more illegal aliens have been rounded up by a joint task force of the Commonwealth and the A.G.:

https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/virginia/bondi-gov-youngkin-virginia-task-force-arrests-1000-criminal-illegal-aliens


This is only the beginning.

If you are in the U.S. illegally, you just have to go back.

Yeah, you can do your own roofing and landscaping from now on. So dumb!

Your argument is:

“but who will pick the cotton?”

Is your argument: "We don't need fresh fruits or vegetables"?

Why is it that every single other country in the world with far lower levels of illegal immigration are perfectly capable of picking and growing their own food? Look at countries like South Korea to Japan, which have almost zero illegal immigration compared to the US. Somehow they're capable of producing enough food at very affordable prices that are often cheaper than even the US. How is it that they're capable of doing all of that without hordes of illegal immigration? You're just regurgitating big AG lobbyists' talking points who want to undercut American labor in order to drive up their stock prices.

So all those family farmers are lying when they say they will go bankrupt without these laborers?

WHICH family farmers, you liar?

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Anonymous wrote:Just announced by Commonwealth’s Governor Youngkin: 1,000 more illegal aliens have been rounded up by a joint task force of the Commonwealth and the A.G.:

https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/virginia/bondi-gov-youngkin-virginia-task-force-arrests-1000-criminal-illegal-aliens


This is only the beginning.

If you are in the U.S. illegally, you just have to go back.

Yeah, you can do your own roofing and landscaping from now on. So dumb!

Your argument is:

“but who will pick the cotton?”

Is your argument: "We don't need fresh fruits or vegetables"?

They should round up all the urban young men and if they can’t prove that they have a job or are doing something productive like being the full time carer for a disabled person or studying full time (and actually doing well) then they should bus them all to the fields that need work and keep them there. It’s quite simple really. Be productive or we’ll take you where you can be.

Are you suggesting chain gangs or slavery?

Democrats do love their slavery. They fought to keep it in 1865 and they are demanding to bring it back now apparently.

Exactly. The Democrat Party of Death and Destruction is evil. Their depopulation Agenda 2030 is evil.