Anonymous
Post 05/16/2025 17:59     Subject: ECNL vs GA
Anonymous wrote:This whole argument is baffling. The statistics show ECNL has the current advantage. I really don't understand how a club having a MLS N for boys is going to magically make their girls programs better. Other than this "alliance" what is the rationale for GA over taking ECNL's status?
because once you go MLSN you lose ECNL girls.. which then forces them to GA.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2025 17:56     Subject: ECNL vs GA
Anonymous wrote:This whole argument is baffling. The statistics show ECNL has the current advantage. I really don't understand how a club having a MLS N for boys is going to magically make their girls programs better. Other than this "alliance" what is the rationale for GA over taking ECNL's status?


Because the GA visors said so!
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2025 17:52     Subject: ECNL vs GA
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Anonymous wrote:Again. There is no difference. There are ECNL teams who beat GA teams and there are GA teams who beat ECNL teams. A both are equally providing exposure. The key here is to focus on your own player and what they can do.


There’s definitely a difference.


If they both put the player in front of the same college coach then there is no difference. That is what matters to me as a parent. Now what teams are in each league and what players play in each league, I could care less.


So there’s no difference between the leagues? Equal number of college commitments in number and quality?

More former girls ECNL quit playing in their first year of college than any other girls league. Something to consider.

More former girls ECNL get injured in their first year of college than any other leagues.


So ECNL has a quitting problem and injury problem?! This is something that is worth discussing.


Of course ECNL girls get hurt in college. ECNL girls are 70% of all women colelge soccer players.


I'm glad someone pointed this out. Because I was going to ask if the calculation of female college soccer players getting injured was ever given consideration to the proportion to the total population of female athletes as well as those who came though non-ECNL clubs.


Statistically speaking your DD is more likely to play college soccer coming out of ECNL. Therefore more likely to get injured. Can you play college not from ECNL- yes. But the data proves its harder and a much smaller possibility/subset. That's not going to change in the next few years. Maybe in 5 if at all, but not before then.

That's not how probability works. 70% of the players who are currently in college played ECNL. That's true. But it's not a predictor of anything. It's a leap to say they are playing in college BECAUSE they were in ECNL. If those exact same players had been in GA, they would still be playing in college. They are playing in college because 1) they are good players and 2) they were at events with college coaches in attendance. Correlation is not causation. For any single individual player, if they are good enough to play in college and they market themself to college coaches properly, they will end up playing in college whether they are at ECNL events or GA events. You don't up your chances by playing in a different league.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2025 17:34     Subject: ECNL vs GA
This whole argument is baffling. The statistics show ECNL has the current advantage. I really don't understand how a club having a MLS N for boys is going to magically make their girls programs better. Other than this "alliance" what is the rationale for GA over taking ECNL's status?
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2025 17:28     Subject: ECNL vs GA
Currently ECNL has college pathway locked down. I dont know why this is even up for debate. But within 2-3 years unfortunately ECNL will be of life support.. if your DD is 2012 or younger either option is going to get them on a college pathway. But likely GA is the future unless MLSN sputters
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2025 17:03     Subject: ECNL vs GA
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Anonymous wrote:Again. There is no difference. There are ECNL teams who beat GA teams and there are GA teams who beat ECNL teams. A both are equally providing exposure. The key here is to focus on your own player and what they can do.


There’s definitely a difference.


If they both put the player in front of the same college coach then there is no difference. That is what matters to me as a parent. Now what teams are in each league and what players play in each league, I could care less.


So there’s no difference between the leagues? Equal number of college commitments in number and quality?

More former girls ECNL quit playing in their first year of college than any other girls league. Something to consider.

More former girls ECNL get injured in their first year of college than any other leagues.


So ECNL has a quitting problem and injury problem?! This is something that is worth discussing.


Of course ECNL girls get hurt in college. ECNL girls are 70% of all women colelge soccer players.


I'm glad someone pointed this out. Because I was going to ask if the calculation of female college soccer players getting injured was ever given consideration to the proportion to the total population of female athletes as well as those who came though non-ECNL clubs.


Statistically speaking your DD is more likely to play college soccer coming out of ECNL. Therefore more likely to get injured. Can you play college not from ECNL- yes. But the data proves its harder and a much smaller possibility/subset. That's not going to change in the next few years. Maybe in 5 if at all, but not before then.

Ridiculous, GA college commitments have gone up every year its even posted on their website.


GA proponents continue to use "gone up every year", "increasing", "closing the gap", "will overtake", etc. While this may indeed turn out to be true, future tense language without actual stats are just propaganda and predictions. The current stats are 70% of collegiate female soccer players are from ECNL.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2025 16:29     Subject: ECNL vs GA
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Anonymous wrote:Again. There is no difference. There are ECNL teams who beat GA teams and there are GA teams who beat ECNL teams. A both are equally providing exposure. The key here is to focus on your own player and what they can do.


There’s definitely a difference.


If they both put the player in front of the same college coach then there is no difference. That is what matters to me as a parent. Now what teams are in each league and what players play in each league, I could care less.


So there’s no difference between the leagues? Equal number of college commitments in number and quality?

More former girls ECNL quit playing in their first year of college than any other girls league. Something to consider.

More former girls ECNL get injured in their first year of college than any other leagues.


So ECNL has a quitting problem and injury problem?! This is something that is worth discussing.


Of course ECNL girls get hurt in college. ECNL girls are 70% of all women colelge soccer players.


I'm glad someone pointed this out. Because I was going to ask if the calculation of female college soccer players getting injured was ever given consideration to the proportion to the total population of female athletes as well as those who came though non-ECNL clubs.


Statistically speaking your DD is more likely to play college soccer coming out of ECNL. Therefore more likely to get injured. Can you play college not from ECNL- yes. But the data proves its harder and a much smaller possibility/subset. That's not going to change in the next few years. Maybe in 5 if at all, but not before then.

Ridiculous, GA college commitments have gone up every year its even posted on their website.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2025 16:25     Subject: ECNL vs GA
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Anonymous wrote:Again. There is no difference. There are ECNL teams who beat GA teams and there are GA teams who beat ECNL teams. A both are equally providing exposure. The key here is to focus on your own player and what they can do.


There’s definitely a difference.


If they both put the player in front of the same college coach then there is no difference. That is what matters to me as a parent. Now what teams are in each league and what players play in each league, I could care less.


So there’s no difference between the leagues? Equal number of college commitments in number and quality?

More former girls ECNL quit playing in their first year of college than any other girls league. Something to consider.

More former girls ECNL get injured in their first year of college than any other leagues.


So ECNL has a quitting problem and injury problem?! This is something that is worth discussing.


Of course ECNL girls get hurt in college. ECNL girls are 70% of all women colelge soccer players.


I'm glad someone pointed this out. Because I was going to ask if the calculation of female college soccer players getting injured was ever given consideration to the proportion to the total population of female athletes as well as those who came though non-ECNL clubs.


Statistically speaking your DD is more likely to play college soccer coming out of ECNL. Therefore more likely to get injured. Can you play college not from ECNL- yes. But the data proves its harder and a much smaller possibility/subset. That's not going to change in the next few years. Maybe in 5 if at all, but not before then.
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Post 05/16/2025 16:18     Subject: ECNL vs GA
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Anonymous wrote:Again. There is no difference. There are ECNL teams who beat GA teams and there are GA teams who beat ECNL teams. A both are equally providing exposure. The key here is to focus on your own player and what they can do.


There’s definitely a difference.


If they both put the player in front of the same college coach then there is no difference. That is what matters to me as a parent. Now what teams are in each league and what players play in each league, I could care less.


So there’s no difference between the leagues? Equal number of college commitments in number and quality?

More former girls ECNL quit playing in their first year of college than any other girls league. Something to consider.

More former girls ECNL get injured in their first year of college than any other leagues.


So ECNL has a quitting problem and injury problem?! This is something that is worth discussing.


Of course ECNL girls get hurt in college. ECNL girls are 70% of all women colelge soccer players.


I'm glad someone pointed this out. Because I was going to ask if the calculation of female college soccer players getting injured was ever given consideration to the proportion to the total population of female athletes as well as those who came though non-ECNL clubs.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2025 16:13     Subject: ECNL vs GA
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Anonymous wrote:OP here- okay let me reframe my question. My goal is NOT college recruitment. It is to have fun, learn and play in HS. Our HS is very competitive (not DC area)

Club 1: U12 3rd team, but the U12 1st team of Club 2

Club 1 offer: 3rd team (ECNL platform)
Club 2 offer: 2nd team (GA platform)

26-27 year: probably would make GA team due to age group change (if it happens for GA)


Easy - GA platform is your best bet. Listen to the Female Footballers Podcast where they interview the GA commissioner.

GA commissioner is great. The podcast is great. GA platform is great. But if you are on the 2nd team you aren’t getting any of it.


Probably right but I think she said that the following year she'd be on the GA team. If you have a better shot at making the GA team then that's where I'd go.



But GA hasn't announced if they are going SY. That will make a difference


Should hear something soon.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2025 15:36     Subject: ECNL vs GA
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Anonymous wrote:OP here- okay let me reframe my question. My goal is NOT college recruitment. It is to have fun, learn and play in HS. Our HS is very competitive (not DC area)

Club 1: U12 3rd team, but the U12 1st team of Club 2

Club 1 offer: 3rd team (ECNL platform)
Club 2 offer: 2nd team (GA platform)

26-27 year: probably would make GA team due to age group change (if it happens for GA)


Easy - GA platform is your best bet. Listen to the Female Footballers Podcast where they interview the GA commissioner.

GA commissioner is great. The podcast is great. GA platform is great. But if you are on the 2nd team you aren’t getting any of it.


Probably right but I think she said that the following year she'd be on the GA team. If you have a better shot at making the GA team then that's where I'd go.



But GA hasn't announced if they are going SY. That will make a difference
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2025 14:59     Subject: ECNL vs GA
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Anonymous wrote:OP here- okay let me reframe my question. My goal is NOT college recruitment. It is to have fun, learn and play in HS. Our HS is very competitive (not DC area)

Club 1: U12 3rd team, but the U12 1st team of Club 2

Club 1 offer: 3rd team (ECNL platform)
Club 2 offer: 2nd team (GA platform)

26-27 year: probably would make GA team due to age group change (if it happens for GA)


Easy - GA platform is your best bet. Listen to the Female Footballers Podcast where they interview the GA commissioner.

GA commissioner is great. The podcast is great. GA platform is great. But if you are on the 2nd team you aren’t getting any of it.


Probably right but I think she said that the following year she'd be on the GA team. If you have a better shot at making the GA team then that's where I'd go.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2025 14:57     Subject: ECNL vs GA
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Anonymous wrote:OP here- okay let me reframe my question. My goal is NOT college recruitment. It is to have fun, learn and play in HS. Our HS is very competitive (not DC area)

Club 1: U12 3rd team, but the U12 1st team of Club 2

Club 1 offer: 3rd team (ECNL platform)
Club 2 offer: 2nd team (GA platform)

26-27 year: probably would make GA team due to age group change (if it happens for GA)


Easy - GA platform is your best bet. Listen to the Female Footballers Podcast where they interview the GA commissioner.

GA commissioner is great. The podcast is great. GA platform is great. But if you are on the 2nd team you aren’t getting any of it.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2025 14:56     Subject: ECNL vs GA
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Anonymous wrote:Again. There is no difference. There are ECNL teams who beat GA teams and there are GA teams who beat ECNL teams. A both are equally providing exposure. The key here is to focus on your own player and what they can do.


There’s definitely a difference.


If they both put the player in front of the same college coach then there is no difference. That is what matters to me as a parent. Now what teams are in each league and what players play in each league, I could care less.


So there’s no difference between the leagues? Equal number of college commitments in number and quality?

More former girls ECNL quit playing in their first year of college than any other girls league. Something to consider.

More former girls ECNL get injured in their first year of college than any other leagues.


So ECNL has a quitting problem and injury problem?! This is something that is worth discussing.


Of course ECNL girls get hurt in college. ECNL girls are 70% of all women colelge soccer players.
Anonymous
Post 05/16/2025 14:45     Subject: ECNL vs GA
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Anonymous wrote:Again. There is no difference. There are ECNL teams who beat GA teams and there are GA teams who beat ECNL teams. An both are equally providing exposure. The key here is to focus on your own player and what they can do.


There are differences. Significant differences.

There are also ECNL-RL teams that can (and have) beaten GA teams. But I will not argue ECNL-RL is somehow equal to GA. ECNL-RL teams also get invited to ECNL showcases. But I will not argue ECNL-RL has equal exposure to GA. Stop putting out false narratives. ECNL and GA's exposure to college recruitment are not equal and not even close. Not yet.

I am one of those people who believes GA will overtake ECNL for girls. GA's affiliation to MLSN gives it that advantage. But this will not happen until the future, and none of us know how far in the future. Nor do we know if we are even correct in our prediction at all.

The last sentence (re-focus on your own player) I do agree with.


You can also state there are ECNL RL teams who beat ECNL teams, but ECNL hats are unwilling to share for self preservation reasons.


Top ECNL-RL teams frequently beat bottom ECNL teams. The parent who referenced GA teams that can beat ECNL teams probably also left out the details about top GA teams beating bottom ECNL teams.