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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Democrats object to use of term 'anchor babies' and also insist that babies serve as an anchor keeping illegal immigrants from being deported.

Republicans claim to be for rule of law and also insist we ignore all judges after Trump accuses one of malfeasance

No one in this thread said to ignore all judges.

And it’s two judges that have been charged. Don’t forget the wacko judge in New Mexico harboring a Tren terrorist.

No evidence he was a terrorist or a gang member, only Venezuelan. The judge's daughter let him live in a casita on her property (basically a guest house but the one's I'm familiar with are small and basic), the daughter (and perhaps the whole family) is into guns and shooting and she let the guy handle and shoot her guns. Which turns out is a felony if you are not an authorized immigrant, which she should have known--the photos I've seen did not show the judge and the Venezuelan guy together with guns--and should not have allowed, although a pretty benign version of the law regarding unlawful "possession" of firearms (eg a felon can't live in the same house with a gun unless the right to own a gun has been restored). I don't think he's been charged, but he did resign.

Anonymous wrote:The child wasn’t deported. A US citizen cannot be deported. The illegal alien mother was deported and chose to bring her child back to her country with her. She put in writing that she wished to have the child return with her to her country.

No, the govt presented a statement they said was from the mother, who did not testify, but the father would have an equal right to prevent her from being taken out of the country. There's a lot of law developed for this because of US citizens who have a child with a foreign national, they break up, the foreign national wants to take the child to their own country of origin.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Democrats object to use of term 'anchor babies' and also insist that babies serve as an anchor keeping illegal immigrants from being deported.

Republicans claim to be for rule of law and also insist we ignore all judges after Trump accuses one of malfeasance

No one in this thread said to ignore all judges.

And it’s two judges that have been charged. Don’t forget the wacko judge in New Mexico harboring a Tren terrorist.

Anonymous wrote:Democrats object to use of term 'anchor babies' and also insist that babies serve as an anchor keeping illegal immigrants from being deported.

Republicans claim to be for rule of law and also insist we ignore all judges after Trump accuses one of malfeasance

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Anonymous wrote:There was no order. That’s the problem. ICE just shipped her out

Without an order of deportation the child was not deported. It’s a legal document. It carries real weight. The child can come back to the U.S. whenever she chooses. Those deported don’t enjoy that privilege.

There are two problems.

One is the lack of due process.

The second is the lack of empathy of Americans.

This child probably does not have a passport for the US and probably does not have one for wherever her mother is from. So the child coming back may be possible legally but not practical.

How would you feel if you were forced to take your US citizen child with you, out of the country, with only a few minutes notice, without having time to adequately transition and prepare?

This must have been so traumatic for the children to experience, and not necessary, to deport the mom and older sister (11 year old) so urgently, without due process. The poor toddler.

Silly argument. Like, really silly.

Yes it’s annoying to get the paperwork for a passport but all parents who want one have to go through the same process. As for trauma, it would have been much more horrifying for the toddler to be wrenched away from her mom and put into foster care (since her dad refused to come forward).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was no order. That’s the problem. ICE just shipped her out

Without an order of deportation the child was not deported. It’s a legal document. It carries real weight. The child can come back to the U.S. whenever she chooses. Those deported don’t enjoy that privilege.

There are two problems.

One is the lack of due process.

The second is the lack of empathy of Americans.

This child probably does not have a passport for the US and probably does not have one for wherever her mother is from. So the child coming back may be possible legally but not practical.

How would you feel if you were forced to take your US citizen child with you, out of the country, with only a few minutes notice, without having time to adequately transition and prepare?

This must have been so traumatic for the children to experience, and not necessary, to deport the mom and older sister (11 year old) so urgently, without due process. The poor toddler.

There was no lack of due process. Mom had a valid deportation order. She took her own child who is as a citizen allowed to return. A man claiming to be the father was unwilling to provide proof of identity to ICE agents. The end.

Says you, internet rando. Pro Trump judge disagrees.

No says the news articles, have you chosen not to read them?

There are no charges in this case. Judge simply asked for more information.

Per the article cited in the OP

The judge on Friday scheduled a hearing for May 16, which he said was “in the interest of dispelling our strong suspicion that the Government just deported a U.S. citizen with no meaningful process.”

The child, whose redacted U.S. birth certificate was filed in court and showed she was born in New Orleans in 2023, had been with her mother and sister during a regular immigration check-in at the New Orleans office of Immigration and Customs Enforcement on Tuesday. Officials there detained them and queued them up for deportation.

Yes we know what the judge said. Judges can be dumb (see the judge arrested for secreting a criminal illegal alien out her back door in the courthouse to evade arrest). Everything I’ve said too has been linked to news articles in this thread as well. No one is confused that this was an American citizen toddler. But she was also with her legal mother who wanted the child with her. We aren’t going to be like Obama and take children from their immigrant parents. Sorry.

Democrats object to use of term 'anchor babies' and also insist that babies serve as an anchor keeping illegal immigrants from being deported.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was no order. That’s the problem. ICE just shipped her out

Without an order of deportation the child was not deported. It’s a legal document. It carries real weight. The child can come back to the U.S. whenever she chooses. Those deported don’t enjoy that privilege.

There are two problems.

One is the lack of due process.

The second is the lack of empathy of Americans.

This child probably does not have a passport for the US and probably does not have one for wherever her mother is from. So the child coming back may be possible legally but not practical.

How would you feel if you were forced to take your US citizen child with you, out of the country, with only a few minutes notice, without having time to adequately transition and prepare?

This must have been so traumatic for the children to experience, and not necessary, to deport the mom and older sister (11 year old) so urgently, without due process. The poor toddler.

There was no lack of due process. Mom had a valid deportation order. She took her own child who is as a citizen allowed to return. A man claiming to be the father was unwilling to provide proof of identity to ICE agents. The end.

Says you, internet rando. Pro Trump judge disagrees.

No says the news articles, have you chosen not to read them?

There are no charges in this case. Judge simply asked for more information.

Per the article cited in the OP

The judge on Friday scheduled a hearing for May 16, which he said was “in the interest of dispelling our strong suspicion that the Government just deported a U.S. citizen with no meaningful process.”

The child, whose redacted U.S. birth certificate was filed in court and showed she was born in New Orleans in 2023, had been with her mother and sister during a regular immigration check-in at the New Orleans office of Immigration and Customs Enforcement on Tuesday. Officials there detained them and queued them up for deportation.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Aren't both parents required to affirmatively consent to a minor child being taken outside the country? I thought that was one of those trafficking/anti-kidnapping things.

Good grief. Have you never traveled abroad with your children? Single parents take their children on vacation outside of the country all the time.

Jesus.

I'm a single parent. No. It isn't that simple.

I had to have a court order allowing me to apply for child's passport and to travel without father present, even though father was not in the picture. I had to show this court order when I crossed borders.

Families with two parents are advised to get a letter of consent to travel without other parent.

Of course it is that simple. I’ve taken my son all across Europe and Central America without ever needing to ask permission. And his father is in the picture.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was no order. That’s the problem. ICE just shipped her out

Without an order of deportation the child was not deported. It’s a legal document. It carries real weight. The child can come back to the U.S. whenever she chooses. Those deported don’t enjoy that privilege.

There are two problems.

One is the lack of due process.

The second is the lack of empathy of Americans.

This child probably does not have a passport for the US and probably does not have one for wherever her mother is from. So the child coming back may be possible legally but not practical.

How would you feel if you were forced to take your US citizen child with you, out of the country, with only a few minutes notice, without having time to adequately transition and prepare?

This must have been so traumatic for the children to experience, and not necessary, to deport the mom and older sister (11 year old) so urgently, without due process. The poor toddler.

There was no lack of due process. Mom had a valid deportation order. She took her own child who is as a citizen allowed to return. A man claiming to be the father was unwilling to provide proof of identity to ICE agents. The end.

Says you, internet rando. Pro Trump judge disagrees.

No says the news articles, have you chosen not to read them?

There are no charges in this case. Judge simply asked for more information.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was no order. That’s the problem. ICE just shipped her out

Without an order of deportation the child was not deported. It’s a legal document. It carries real weight. The child can come back to the U.S. whenever she chooses. Those deported don’t enjoy that privilege.

There are two problems.

One is the lack of due process.

The second is the lack of empathy of Americans.

This child probably does not have a passport for the US and probably does not have one for wherever her mother is from. So the child coming back may be possible legally but not practical.

How would you feel if you were forced to take your US citizen child with you, out of the country, with only a few minutes notice, without having time to adequately transition and prepare?

This must have been so traumatic for the children to experience, and not necessary, to deport the mom and older sister (11 year old) so urgently, without due process. The poor toddler.

There was no lack of due process. Mom had a valid deportation order. She took her own child who is as a citizen allowed to return. A man claiming to be the father was unwilling to provide proof of identity to ICE agents. The end.

The child's custodian indicated that there was an issue with taking the child out. The determination as to whether the child could therefore be sent overseas was a live controversy and it should have been resolved before the child was sent anywhere.

That's your due process problem. I know it's tough for those of you with single-digit IQ's or blinding devotion to Trump, but I have faith you can overcome your disabilities.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was no order. That’s the problem. ICE just shipped her out

Without an order of deportation the child was not deported. It’s a legal document. It carries real weight. The child can come back to the U.S. whenever she chooses. Those deported don’t enjoy that privilege.

There are two problems.

One is the lack of due process.

The second is the lack of empathy of Americans.

This child probably does not have a passport for the US and probably does not have one for wherever her mother is from. So the child coming back may be possible legally but not practical.

How would you feel if you were forced to take your US citizen child with you, out of the country, with only a few minutes notice, without having time to adequately transition and prepare?

This must have been so traumatic for the children to experience, and not necessary, to deport the mom and older sister (11 year old) so urgently, without due process. The poor toddler.

I would never illegally enter a country, and drop a baby.

Zero empathy for anyone who is now in FO stage of FA border jumping journey.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was no order. That’s the problem. ICE just shipped her out

Without an order of deportation the child was not deported. It’s a legal document. It carries real weight. The child can come back to the U.S. whenever she chooses. Those deported don’t enjoy that privilege.

There are two problems.

One is the lack of due process.

The second is the lack of empathy of Americans.

This child probably does not have a passport for the US and probably does not have one for wherever her mother is from. So the child coming back may be possible legally but not practical.

How would you feel if you were forced to take your US citizen child with you, out of the country, with only a few minutes notice, without having time to adequately transition and prepare?

This must have been so traumatic for the children to experience, and not necessary, to deport the mom and older sister (11 year old) so urgently, without due process. The poor toddler.

There was no lack of due process. Mom had a valid deportation order. She took her own child who is as a citizen allowed to return. A man claiming to be the father was unwilling to provide proof of identity to ICE agents. The end.

Says you, internet rando. Pro Trump judge disagrees.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was no order. That’s the problem. ICE just shipped her out

Without an order of deportation the child was not deported. It’s a legal document. It carries real weight. The child can come back to the U.S. whenever she chooses. Those deported don’t enjoy that privilege.

There are two problems.

One is the lack of due process.

The second is the lack of empathy of Americans.

This child probably does not have a passport for the US and probably does not have one for wherever her mother is from. So the child coming back may be possible legally but not practical.

How would you feel if you were forced to take your US citizen child with you, out of the country, with only a few minutes notice, without having time to adequately transition and prepare?

This must have been so traumatic for the children to experience, and not necessary, to deport the mom and older sister (11 year old) so urgently, without due process. The poor toddler.

There was no lack of due process. Mom had a valid deportation order. She took her own child who is as a citizen allowed to return. A man claiming to be the father was unwilling to provide proof of identity to ICE agents. The end.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The judge in this case is pro Trump. The concern is due process. It's a valid concern but clearly too nuanced for many people too consumed by hatred for immigrants to care about silly things like the law.

Due process? The child wasn’t deported. She was taken back to Honduras at her mother’s request. The child can return if that is the mother’s wish. There is nothing stopping her from sending the child back to the US.

"A federal judge in Louisiana expressed concern on Friday that the Trump administration had deported a 2-year-old U.S. citizen to Honduras “with no meaningful process” and against the wishes of her father. . . . Asserting that “it is illegal and unconstitutional to deport” a U.S. citizen, Judge Doughty set a hearing for May 16 to explore his “strong suspicion that the government just deported a U.S. citizen with no meaningful process.”"

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When will the people who are illegally kidnapping and removed 2 year old US citizens be punished? When will they be held to account by the criminal justice system? MAGA is a sickness.

Sorry but we don’t kidnap babies from their moms.