Anonymous
Post 04/15/2025 11:45     Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:When is the judge going to find DOJ lawyers in contempt and jail them.


Not going to happen. Zealous advocate for their client. If it did, the contempt would be swiftly reversed, or the floodgates would open and it would be open season on all government lawyers.

Is that what you want?
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2025 11:31     Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I find this very alarming and can't believe it's not getting more attention.

But I guess in Trump world it's just another Tuesday.


I think it's fair to say that this is getting a lot of attention.


DP. Not enough given the level of horror.


I just saw the most disgusting picture of these men lined up on the ground. Hands handcuffed behind them, seated and legs splayed wide, so that their heads are resting on each man in front of him. It’s a full on concentration camp, ya’ll. Jails wouldn’t ever treat men like that in the US (even though they are cruel too).
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2025 11:26     Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I find this very alarming and can't believe it's not getting more attention.

But I guess in Trump world it's just another Tuesday.


I think it's fair to say that this is getting a lot of attention.


DP. Not enough given the level of horror.




Being home in your country of citizenship is a “horror” ??

You cannot possibly be this stupid.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2025 11:26     Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When is the judge going to find DOJ lawyers in contempt and jail them.


Will never happen. The courts are controlled by the federalist Society. The federal society is all about what Trump is doing. Who do you think are writing the executive orders for President Trump?


Fortunately you are overestimating the situation today. Even Justice Thomas and Justice Alito said the executive had to facilitate this guy’s return.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2025 11:24     Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the red line everyone was talking about? Trump ignoring the SC? So now what?


He hasn't ignored the Supreme Court. It was the lower level judge that did so.

Supreme Court asked lower court to clarify order giving respect to President's power to conduct foreign policy, and the judge did not do so, instead removing the word 'effectuate' from the original order.

Supreme Court said 'facilitate' release from custody.


What has the king done to facilitate his release? You keep avoiding the issue.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2025 11:22     Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I find this very alarming and can't believe it's not getting more attention.

But I guess in Trump world it's just another Tuesday.


I think it's fair to say that this is getting a lot of attention.


DP. Not enough given the level of horror.




Being home in your country of citizenship is a “horror” ??
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2025 11:20     Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the red line everyone was talking about? Trump ignoring the SC? So now what?


He hasn't ignored the Supreme Court. It was the lower level judge that did so.

Supreme Court asked lower court to clarify order giving respect to President's power to conduct foreign policy, and the judge did not do so, instead removing the word 'effectuate' from the original order.

Supreme Court said 'facilitate' release from custody.


lol Go back to Fix News!
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2025 11:20     Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:When is the judge going to find DOJ lawyers in contempt and jail them.


Will never happen. The courts are controlled by the federalist Society. The federal society is all about what Trump is doing. Who do you think are writing the executive orders for President Trump?
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2025 11:17     Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
When is the judge going to find DOJ lawyers in contempt and jail them.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2025 11:16     Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the red line everyone was talking about? Trump ignoring the SC? So now what?


He hasn't ignored the Supreme Court. It was the lower level judge that did so.

Supreme Court asked lower court to clarify order giving respect to President's power to conduct foreign policy, and the judge did not do so, instead removing the word 'effectuate' from the original order.

Supreme Court said 'facilitate' release from custody.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2025 10:57     Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:It’s pretty amazing who you guys will line up to protect. This guy never should have been here in the first place and no judge can change that.


Due process. It is in the constitution. Everyone gets due process in this country. Even the most blatant criminals. Even non-citizens. You and I don’t get to choose who gets their day in court. The constitution is quite clear, and you know this. So do you just not agree with the constitution? Do you not think we need to follow it any longer?


DP. He would get Due Process if he were in the U.S. But he's not.

Some administrative errors cannot be fixed if a sovereign country is involved.


So as long as he can get a plane into international airspace before anyone can get the courts to act, whoever is inside will be El Salvador’s problem.


If the President is acting within his legal authority, then yes he can. As for the current situation, there was an administrative error. Unfortunately, there is no remedy because of the involvement of a foreign government having custody of its own citizen. It seems like folks here want a federal court to order (or enforce an order) the President to exercise his Article II powers, under threat of contempt of court, which the Supreme Court has expressly prohibited.

So where are we now? The El Salvador government will likely provide the US Government with an official notice that the gang conditions existing In 2019 no longer exist. Therefore, any prohibition on removal from the US is now moot. The El Salvador government could also find that he is a member of MS-13 and keep him locked up. That would be the internal affairs of a foreign country in which the US Government - and federal courts cannot interfere.



So then you believe that Trump can disappear anyone he wants without due process. Is that. problem for you or not? I conspicuously don’t see you mention that little detail.


Due Process applies only if he is here, which he is not. Going forward, the Administration will need to follow Due Process, so your argument is moot.


The Admin needed to follow due process before too. Now they need to correct their willful flouting of the law.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2025 10:53     Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
None of the 238 people sent to El Salvador have been charged or appeared in a US court. We have no idea who they are or even if they are illegals.

We just have Trump and the Republicans word. That is worth nothing.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2025 10:48     Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
This is so completely sick and twisted.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2025 10:11     Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If he had never ILLEGALLY come across the border, he would never have been borderline legally sent back.


Trump has done many illegal things and has been found guilty of rape. Why has he not been deported to El Salvador?


Yes unlike this victim of RWNJs who has kidnapped off the street with no trial or due process. There are no charges against any of the people who were deported.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2025 10:09     Subject: Trump colludes with foreign dictator to keep innocent man in jail, solely to prove that Trump is above the law.
Anonymous wrote:If he had never ILLEGALLY come across the border, he would never have been borderline legally sent back.


Trump has done many illegal things and has been found guilty of rape. Why has he not been deported to El Salvador?